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The_Ninja_DM's Carrion Crown

Game Master Spiral_Ninja

The Trial of the Beast: Gatehouse labled


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Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

I'm giving serious consideration to a level of rogue, letting me trapfind, among other things, but I so want animate rope... We'll see.

Gkirkhan, you barbarianing this level?

Eva, I'd go with cleric.


DM Ninja/infinite

I'm always in favor of more healing. Still, she's your character and your choice.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

Any suggestions for feats? I was thinking of picking up another skill focus in a knowledge, but I don't think it's necessary.


DM Ninja/infinite

Once everyone levels, let me know if you want to return to Ravengro to rest, recharge, and heal or continue in the prison.


Female Human Ninja 3

I would like to rest somewhat and perhaps restock on holy water.


Definitely go back. I need to get my new level 2 spells!


Female Assimar (with Ulfen blood) Cleric(Theologian) 4 / Monk(Spirit Master) 2

I believe we can rest in the room with the friendly ghost.


DM Ninja/infinite

Actually, the safest place in the prison is the Warden's office. Vesorianna would tell you that if you asked.


Female Assimar (with Ulfen blood) Cleric(Theologian) 4 / Monk(Spirit Master) 2

thank you,
I could not remember the room's name, or her name at the moment of the post.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

We may be able to rest there safely, but it won't do us any good if we want holy water and new spells. Of course, before we head back, I would like to completely clear the upper level.


Female Assimar (with Ulfen blood) Cleric(Theologian) 4 / Monk(Spirit Master) 2

Got a good point there,


Female Human Ninja 3

Ok, I just hope we have cleared the upper level of the most dangerous foes...


I would rather finish the upper level after returning. No spells left but grease. I can also put some magic missiles in my reportoire now that I get two per casting and they work well against noncorporeal.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

There's few enough rooms left, and those on the way out. I've still got spells, and you can always acid splash it. Versimilitude dictates we finish the level to the balcony.

Are we playing with the silly scroll errata? I'd like to take scribe scroll to qualify for Cypher Magic, but if I can't scribe scrolls I don't have access to (which is the errata, which is silly) I'll take combat expertise or something instead.

To clarify: You may add five to the craft DC to create magic items without casting the spell necessary.
Errata removed wands, scrolls, potions, and staves from this rule.


DM Ninja/infinite

*I* haven't seen any errata.


DM Ninja/infinite

Bad news people. I've just heard from Gkirkhan. He's dropping out due to commitment, timeing, and burn-out issues.

Do we want to keep the curent group as is at 4 or should I open recruitment for another front-line fighter?

No dedicated front-line fighter might affect your level-ups as well. Eva, you need to level regardless.

We now have:
Evangline: Cleric-1/Monk-1
Que: Ninja-3
Vertielle: Bard-3
Wood: Wizard-3

I also deleted the start of the last fight (a giant stirge) on this floor. Once we get organized again, I'll get that fight going. If we bring in a new fighter, that may be how he/she arrives. ;)


Female Assimar (with Ulfen blood) Cleric(Theologian) 4 / Monk(Spirit Master) 2

Updated


DM Ninja/infinite

Thanks Eva.


Female Human Ninja 3

It's really bads news that Gkirkhan had to quit. I quite liked his character.

If I knew how to make a front line fighter out of a NINJA, iI would try to fullfill that role, but I don't think that that will work.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

But our wizard is a conjurer and our cleric is a viking badass. I don't know if we want or need a new player, honestly.


DM Ninja/infinite

That's why I'm asking the group. If you feel like you don't need a replacement, we'll continue as is. Maybe we should. It could clear up if we need a front-line heavy hitter or not.

I'll leave the decision open until tomorrow 6 am EST. Then we'll continue either way as it will take a while to get someone regardless.


DM Ninja/infinite

Just a quick note: I will not be able to post tomorrow until very late. We have a family trip to Hershey Park (mid-state) for my daughter's school picnic. [She's cyber-schooled and that's the most convenient place for the school to include everyone.] Today should be fine, though.


Monster Summoning II and Invisibility for spells. (Anyone prefer mirror image over invisibility?)


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

Generally, I do, but for you, invisibility is far superior.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

We want hide from undead, detect undead, protection from evil or even magic circle, and at least 12 holy waters.


And we want to talk to the gypsies and magical shopowners about repowering Vertiele's and my depleted haunt siphon.

And I agree holy waters are the best use of our money now. I also can scribe a Mon Summoning II for Vertielle now, though the money is probably better invested in holy water.

Scribing magic missile scrolls at level 3 is probably more effort and less cost effective than holy water too.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

Probably. Anything we can cast ourselves won't be efficient as a scroll, as yet. Some ghost blanch for arrows might be well used, and we'll make sure to distribute the magic arrows I have now. Otherwise it's mostly innate spells that we'll need.

Oil of magic weapon for Eva, perhaps.


DM Ninja/infinite

Don't forget the drop to the lower area.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

I have rope, pitons, and feather fall for that, luckily.


I am buying 3 vials of HW if we can't get free HW from church.

Ready to go.

Did I use my last vial of HW last encounter? The baddies may have been eliminated before I went.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

I sell one antiplague, two bloodblock, and 2 smelling salts to buy three holy waters; and canibalize the scrolls of hypnotism and floating disk to scribe protection from evilx2.
DC=5+5+1=11
Spellcraft: 1d20 + 8 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 8 + 2 = 121d20 + 8 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 8 + 2 = 14
Whew. Close calls.


DM Ninja/infinite

Wood, Gkirkhan finished it before you needed to throw the flask.

OK, I'll pick this up in Harrowstone tomorrow. I've a few things going on including getting a RL game going with my hubby.

We'll pick it up at the top of the elevator shaft.


DM Ninja/infinite

By mid-morning the four of you have re-entered Harrowstone and are standing at the top of the soot-stained remains of the elevator shaft. You estimate the drop to be at least 20 feet.

Who's going first?


Does Que want the ring and ioun stone to help scout?
+1 AC and featherfall seemed good things for the scout. I can send down a flying creature to scout too.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

For future reference feel free to assume I'm using Sift to scout ahead.


Female Human Ninja 3

I am sorry, but at them moment I have lot of stuff going on in my life so that I can't really commit to continue playing in this PbP. I am really sad about this as it was a lot of fun, but I can't get my mind free to continue to play at the moment.

I just hope that this won't kill the PbP and that you can continue without me.


Well, now it looks like we need one or two more.


DM Ninja/infinite

Sigh.

[Mutters rude things under her breath. Just not at Que or Gkirkhan, who were nice enough to keep me informed.]

OK, so now I will *have* to reopen the recruitment section.


Que, best of luck, I hope things work out in RL.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

Yes we will need to open recruitment. How long a pause should we wait for players, and should we retcon to the town?


A full bab frontliner?


DM Ninja/infinite

OK, I have a proposed full bab frontliner. Playing to my weaknesses... ;), a half-giant soulknife (posibly with the cutthroat archetype). Skinned (looks only) as a half-minotaur.

This gives both a frontliner and a traps person...you will need a traps person in the next module, after all.

If you want to add more let me know.

Meanwhile, reset to the town. Also, the three of you remaining, upgrade your equipment to 3rd level (3000g total). I have developed a backstory to explain the suddend aquisition of the equipment and the -disappearances- of your friends and teammates. Consider you now have access to just about everything, as if you'd made the character 3rd to start.


Female Assimar (with Ulfen blood) Cleric(Theologian) 4 / Monk(Spirit Master) 2

I'll say it now,
I am not a fan of the Psionics system,
and I'll try to not let it get to me.

I've seen a lot of broken psionic builds in my past game experience, and kinda ruined those games

For traps I can prepare find traps to find them.
if Vertielle changes from Archivist to Archaeologist we then have our trap monkey.


DM Ninja/infinite

So, we can have the traps/locks issue covered in several ways.

I will say up front to all of you right now that the potential new character is being played by my husband. The DSP Soulknife is his current favorite class. I will continue to run the same way I have, I guarantee no favoritism.

In fact, if you think I'm showing it, let me know immediately.

Also, do you want me to try for a few other players?

Also, clarification on the 3rd level money issue: ADD 3000g.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

I dislike psionics as a mechanic and a build. The magus with the magic dagger thing is the alternative I suggest, but it's not exactly my decision who gets in XD
I'd be fine changing to Archaelogist. Archivist was because we had a rogue. I only ask I be allowed to change 3rd level feat and some skill points choices to reflect.


DM Ninja/infinite

To partially address the isue here's a link to the Soulknife: Soulknife

That said, Vertielle, if you want to make the change go right ahead.

I'll post the cutthroat archtype which gets no other powers later tonight.


Female Half-Elf Bard (Archivist) 5/ Pathfinder Chronicler 1 (hp 49/49; AC 18/14/14; 15/15 rounds)

Spellblade Magus

It's psionics as a whole that bothers me. How do you dispel? Does dwarf resistance apply? Can you use it polymorphed? In psionic-only campaigns, it's less disruptive, but still overpowered to the point of being comical.


Female Assimar (with Ulfen blood) Cleric(Theologian) 4 / Monk(Spirit Master) 2
Vertielle Siepar wrote:
It's psionics as a whole that bothers me. How do you dispel? Does dwarf resistance apply? Can you use it polymorphed? In psionic-only campaigns, it's less disruptive, but still overpowered to the point of being comical.

That's the reason for my dislike of it.


DM Ninja/infinite
Vertielle Siepar wrote:

Spellblade Magus

It's psionics as a whole that bothers me. How do you dispel? Does dwarf resistance apply? Can you use it polymorphed? In psionic-only campaigns, it's less disruptive, but still overpowered to the point of being comical.

OK, I appreciate your concerns, let me address these.

We use tramsparency so: Psionics dispels the same way every other type of magic does and any apropriate resistances apply.

Polymorphed can use it subject to whatever other limits apply; for a soulblade, the form must be able to use the weapon generated.

If you have other concerns, let me know and we'll try to work them out.

I started out playing science fiction and later played Rolemaster; I've always seen psionics as just another form of magic. I see magic (in my games) as three types, much like the Rolemaster split: Arcane, Divine, Psionic (mentalism in Rolemaster) each with a diverent source and a different style. [side note: That's also why I've always felt divine casters should be spontaneous.]

IMO, the nice thing about the Soulknife is that he/she can be a frontline fighter/meat shield without becoming as useless as a standard fighter at higher levels.


DM Ninja/infinite

Oh, and as for the Magus option: I've been married to the man for 20 years; 21 on June 28th and I've gamed with him for at least 5 years longer. I've seen him build and play characters of all types. Never give him a standard spellcaster. Never. If you think psionics is overpowered...(rolls eyes)

A soulknife can dish out fighter-level damage basically being a highly flexible full BaB frontliner with, as he/she levels up, access to the ability to pull out just the right damage type. As the build he's shown me has no int bonus, that puts Vertielle's naturalist ability to the forefront. Just like with Gkirkhan, you can ID the monster and let him know what to use against it. And given that the build has only 3 increased stats (Str, Dex, Wis; all the rest are 10s) he's less likely to be controlled and turn on you.

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