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We are punching a hole in their line and rushing through it, rather like the Battle of the Bulge. It's always harder to defend a large line from a smaller force, as you can't mass your troops for fear of seeing the enemy go around them elsewhere.
Have a feeling though that are enemies might not be so polite ; )
*whistles innocently*
2. What does the starstone do to lin? Or is there not enough time for her to consume one?
There is indeed time, and you'll find out as soon as she uses her breath weapon what it has done to her.
Lots of character re-building!
DM I wanted to use this for the taint of the abominations in terms of a game mechanic....
Unnatural Presence (Old Cults)
Your prolonged association with alien forces leaks from your pores.
Benefit: You can use your Intimidate skill to demoralize animals and vermin; Intimidate is a class skill for you.
Hey guys, pardon the delay. In the end I decided to make a map for y'all based on feedback and reading between the lines, etc. and it's taking a bit longer than I thought due to day job craziness. I'll have it done and up for you tonight, hopefully before I start the night job, and I'll also put up the first couple folks' actions, i.e., Livain (since she's first anyway and already declared what she's gonna do) and the Erinyes.
No problems! I don't care either way for a map, especially if we just plan on smashing through there line. But no rush bud. =)
Cool. Yeah, last night got outta hand; session started early and went wayyyy over. The client's singer wasn't prepared at all and I had to whip her into shape. Sheesh. At least they paid me extra.
Working on the map now; looking ahead in the story, it's gonna be better to have one than not, but I really appreciate y'all's willingness to be flexible. :-)
Okay, Here's a link to the map. Before I continue, I want to make sure we're all clear on a few things:
1. Those are TEN FOOT SQUARES. Please calculate move rates accordingly.
2. I am going to assume you guys are at 100' up for starters. If you would like to be elsewhere, just lemme know.
3. If your icon is not where you'd like it to be to start things off, tell me now.
4. The smoke walls and fire walls obviously extend up and down the y axis a ways; 20' to be specific. They are at different altitudes, though.
Question for Livain; did you take all appropriate range increment negs into account for your initial shots at the Marrashi? You'll be firing from like three ranges away, so I want to make sure.
MOVEMENT: Diagonals are the same on all axes; 5 for the first square, 10 for the second square.
EVASIVE MOVEMENT: Fly checks. That simple.
Any other Q's?
Thanks Boss! Map looks great. Really appreciate all your extra work mate.
And yes a few questions:
1)Can we tell what size the ballista are? Because as the range on even a small ballista is 120' I think us having a higher altitude is a Very good idea. I'm thinking we should be at maybe 200'. 150' minimum.
2)Where would those strange glowly lines be on the map? And are they on the ground? Or extend up into the air? If so how high? Or are they lines in the air? If so at what altitude?
3)The top of the map is North and North is the direction we need to go, right?
5) Did you mean to say that moving diagonally, (so like ascending) is doubled after the first square? So 20' for the first and 40' for the second and so on?
6)@Everyone: Regarding our positioning. I brought this up before but no one commented one way or the other so I won't bring it up again after this, promise. If we are punching through I think it makes sense to be in diamond formation, with Lin in the middle. Damian is our deadliest member and has a good AC so of course he's on point. As Magus' Mai and Aylaeth have a variety of possible attacks and as well can increase their AC, so make good flankers and protectors. Lin is carrying our most precious cargo-Belsarious and the Abominations, and so they need to be protected at all costs. Plus Min and Bel are ranged attackers. Of course Lin is good in melee but she can make short work of anyone who gets too close. Finally Livain has the lowest AC, so if she brings up the rear it'll give her a little more protection. And of course she'll be providing deadly cover with her bow.
Also, I think we should be significantly more spaced out, at least 40-60' apart, to prevent us all being targets for AOE spells and such. Who knows who many magic users are in that army down there, ya know?
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. I will also have no problem going with whatever the majority (or Damian) decides.
6)@Livain: If you hadn't including the negs on your attack Liv I think they'd be worth using a Hero Point on. As we hadn't really known the ranges before you rolled maybe DRA would be SUPER nice even let you use it at +8, like if you'd done it before the roll? What say you of kind and generous game master? : D
Aaaand, I think that's it!
Man I'm stoked for this battle! Whoo-hoo!
Don't forget that Lin has a breath weapon as well, I'm all for Damian leading but it would be nice to be in a position to fire off my breath weapon.
Or I could save it if they come at us from below or above. Hmmmm I guess being in the middle is fine ;D
I like the idea of a diamond formation with Damian leading, then he can charge in any forward direction without any of us in his way.
No Livain didn't include the negs for her attacks. She wants to know if she canadd 8 from hero points. Also does that mean the marrashi would be attack g past their first range increment? The diamond formation is fine with us. I just want to get in range to spellstrike with intensified shocking grasp ;)
@Min: Ya, that's exactly what I was thinking, Lin's breath weapon will be perfect for fending off attackers from above. And, if we're spread out enough, she'll be able to melee no problem.
@Mai: Ya I see you got the Intensified Spell and Desperate Focus combo now, it's Perfect for Magus' eh! Can't wait to try it out myself! ; D
Thanks Boss! Map looks great. Really appreciate all your extra work mate.
And yes a few questions:
What a surprise!
1)Can we tell what size the ballista are? Because as the range on even a small ballista is 120' I think us having a higher altitude is a Very good idea. I'm thinking we should be at maybe 200'. 150' minimum.
That's a good question, and definitely something that certain folks would be able to tell by looking. I'll put some info under an appropriate spoiler.
2)Where would those strange glowly lines be on the map?
Well. They're not on the map because they're not on the map. They're a short ways behind the lines of orcs, maybe 80 feet or so.
And are they on the ground? Or extend up into the air? If so how high? Or are they lines in the air? If so at what altitude?
Er. Didn't I explain this already? I thought I linked to photos. They're just like airport runway lights. They follow the ground, they do not extend into the air more than a couple feet at most. That's about all you can see without getting right up close to 'em.
3)The top of the map is North and North is the direction we need to go, right?
The top is north. If you are going to Izmir, then that is the direction you need to go.
5) Did you mean to say that moving diagonally, (so like ascending) is doubled after the first square? So 20' for the first and 40' for the second and so on?
No. I mean it works like normal 2D diagonal movement. So the first diagonal is 5, next is 10, next is 5, next is 10, etc. So essentially like 3/4 move rate unless of course you have feats that overcome this like wingover and such.
6)@Livain: If you hadn't including the negs on your attack Liv I think they'd be worth using a Hero Point on.
Only one HP can be used on a given turn, which would only affect one attack roll.
She wants to know if she can add 8 from hero points.
See above. Only one per turn, and it will affect one attack roll. The Marrashi are basically 250' away at the start of combat here.
Also, everyone sees that there are three sheets to the map, yes? I split things up into three altitude groups. You guys are 100' up, so your actual location is on the middle sheet. I have you on all three for reference though, in case someone wants to bop up to fight the Erinyes or whatever.
I'd like to be at least 200' up. 1000' would be more like it, but we only have three rounds to ascend.
Whoo-hoo! The Super Genius Archtypes for Magus' are on SRD! I was waiting for these! Wanted to distinguish our Magi as far apart as possible. Glad they came just in time before the fight!
And this one is Perfect for Aylaeth with her being a Sylph and all. So with your approval DRA, I'd like to present the slightly new, Aylaeth .
Ok so as well as Staff Magus she now also has the Cabalist Archtype with the Djinni bloodline (which she like pretty much already has as a Slyph! Kismit! ; ). They don't change any of the same alternate class features so it's all kosher.
And it as she hasn't used anything that would she wouldn't now have because of the change, it doesn't affect anything in game either.
EXCEPT: She doesn't have a spellbook anymore, which means, that our two Magi couldn't have swapped spells. So sorry mate but that means you actually don't have them anymore.
I believe they were:
1st: Protection from Evil, Endure Elements
2nd: Acid Arrow, Glitterdust, Cat's Grace, Fog Cloud, Bears Endurance
3rd: Haste, Lightning Bolt.
But please correct me if I'm wrong.
Any questions about any of this please just ask.
Alright doesn't mess up my attacks just means Maiathreen probably will have fireball prepared then will change Mai's profile to reflect the missing spells.
@Aylaeth: Please don't just assume you can do a character re-working whenever you want. I know I'm a really permissive DM but I feel like you're taking that for granted and taking advantage of it, and that's not cool. Please back out your character changes until after the fight.
So I have a ninja/assassin who has been beating down the walls of my subconsciousness and needs a home along with an undecided character from Cyra. So why do all the new games either not feel right or fill up in 0.00001 seconds?
Because some people like to play in like 20+ games at once and Hog all the fun. :P
I'm thinking about starting my own Rpol community and kicking off a more official setting but I need to find the time and avoid my wife's wrath xD
I've been itching to make a Gunslinger, I had one in Iron Kingdoms.
Merrin 'The Gravedigger' Jegmen, fought with a shovel and a pair of hold out pistols. ;D fun times~
@ Ayleath:
Belsarious posted slightly ahead of his Initiative and fired a razor tusk arrow, which sadly missed. I think you are clear to post whenever your ready =)
Does anyone know how far you can fall in one round? The pathfinder rules are kinda vague -.-;. I found this though Dorkitan.com/PFRPG/Falling, I just thought i'd ask in case it ever came up ;D
@Ayleath the drakes are at N8 S8 X8, for some reason the pics don't work but you can see the broken image tabs where they should be.
They are however, situated between Valek, Damian and us so we will have to fight our way through them.
@DRA If I use one of those Dragon freezing arrows, will he be frozen in place or will he fall from the sky while frozen? Just thought i'd ask ;)
@DRA If I use one of those Dragon freezing arrows, will he be frozen in place or will he fall from the sky while frozen? Just thought i'd ask ;)
He will fall for the one round that he is frozen.
Still waiting for Lin to use her breath weapon, too. :-D
Sorry for the wait! Had to get a new car today, tried to rebuild my explorers engine with no luck. Only bloody knuckles and a couple broken tools. -.-;
Picked up a 2011 Dodge Durango, its a sweet ride so far xD
Back to the game~!
I'm hoping that I hit, I had a couple range increments to overcome and some really poor rolls. I'd like to watch Valekk crash into the ranks of hobgoblins and ballista below him. =) Hopefully the drakes get close enough for me to have Lin blast them~
More goodies have been sent your way DRA and I must say if we are the first targets of any of my emails I shall be very upset. You need to use them on those imperial dogs first :)
DRA now that Ultimate Combat is out may I be allowed to replace pointblank mastery for clustered shots? It will be so much fun. :)
Bump for my question.
Sure! Just wait until after this combat, like I asked Aylaeth to do. No character mods in the middle of a fight. :-)
Damian: Really loved starting from the beginning of your Kingmaker PBP and reading it through. All I can say is, incredible. Seriously that lot of you should get together in real life and write a book, I will be first to buy it of course ;).
Taisper is a scary beast as well. o.O
In all serious though that was an incredible story to read and the characters are well defined. =)
I appreciate it. It's the players, though. All I do is paint the background, while they actually do all the work. It's been a lot of fun, and I can't wait to see where they take it from here. The only thing I can expect is that it's not like any other Kingmaker game on the boards, either in quality or in storyline.
Hmmm.... Balista's, two angry drakes, a large group of Marrashi, a ground Valekk and a pair of Eryines remain. Oh yeah and an army...
Time to run most definitely!
@ Livian and Mai: You two still with us? ;D
@DRA: Are the remaining Furies and Marrashi's blocking our flight path? If I tried to go straight after Damian would they be in the way?
Hmmm.... Balista's, two angry drakes, a large group of Marrashi, a ground Valekk and a pair of Eryines remain. Oh yeah and an army...
Time to run most definitely!
@ Livian and Mai: You two still with us? ;D
@DRA: Are the remaining Furies and Marrashi's blocking our flight path? If I tried to go straight after Damian would they be in the way?
Yup. And in fact, now they're right on top of you! They spent the last round getting into position.
Aww crap!
The Altitudes are a little deceiving lol, I thought when they moved to Altitude 150 they were on level with us, now I'm starting to see what going on. I think anyways lol xD.
Hmmm, for some reason I can't get the my google rss feed to accept the link from the new update to the campaign. Any suggestion? lol
Man this is not Livain's fight. :-/
Min, I dunno; did you check the thread about the changes to see if others were having similar troubles? I don't RSS these bad boys so I have no help to offer, sorry.
Let's speed this fight up! We've been going for literally a month now.
Agreed, though really it's mostly my fault. I was overwhelmed with NPCs at the same time RL dropped a few ohshit bombs on me. Things are much calmer now.
Good news is, you guys wiped out the drakes and a bunch of the Erinyes, and the odds are really good that the ballista crews won't be able to hit you! 'Course there's still close to two dozen marrashi, and mysteriously focused cavalry, and a REALLY angry black dragon preparing to launch himself up from the ground...
My birthday cake Cyra made me :D
And yes we need to end this fast for Livain's health.
My birthday cake Cyra made me :D
And yes we need to end this fast for Livain's health.
Hey, happy birthday, mang!
Agreed, though really it's mostly my fault. I was overwhelmed with NPCs at the same time RL dropped a few ohshit bombs on me. Things are much calmer now.
Good news is, you guys wiped out the drakes and a bunch of the Erinyes, and the odds are really good that the ballista crews won't be able to hit you! 'Course there's still close to two dozen marrashi, and mysteriously focused cavalry, and a REALLY angry black dragon preparing to launch himself up from the ground...
It doesn't help that I haven't been running away that quickly either. Hopefully my recent post will punch a hole in our enemies. No matter if Valekk dies or not, Min and Lin are running like hell. Besides the damage is done. The Blackdragonflight air forces have been decimated and once we reach the Warbanians we will be able to give them some much needed support.
Hopefully though we can pull away and get everyone healed up. :/
Sorry for my slow posting, working hard on some keytraining for a job I applied for. It'll be a life changing deal if I get the job! :D
btw, happy birthday Mai!
Hey good luck, Min! I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya. ^_^
And the Warbanians, BTW, are coming from the west, whereas y'all are headed north, so really they're not gonna be any help unless you change course and go to them...
Thanks DRA, i've got my fingers crossed. :)
Whoops! The Warbanian's are too the west, hmmm. That Starstone drained Lin pretty good, yikes >.<; and Valekk... Yeah. Not how I had planned it in my head but it definitely got more interesting!
xD
You can do it! If you guys coordinate it you can either kill Valkk, or they can Aid you so you can break free! Otherwise, yeah, you're gonna be pretty hosed. The fall won't kill you, but you'll be on the ground and surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of black dragonflight ground troops.
I'm a little nervous, but with Lin in fairly decent shape and Belsarious nearby, i'm hopeful to make it through this. I think out of the three of them, Min is the most seriously hurt and as long as Lin stays conscious we are going to be able to escape lol. I don't see Valkk holding Lin for very long though, even fatigued she has a good chance of breaking free and giving him a good shredding...
Hopefully. ^^;
As for everyone else, I wouldn't be surprised if they continued to Izmir without them. At this point Livain and Mai are battered pretty badly, Damian is injured and Ayleath is the only other person not too seriously injured.
Hence why everything is getting so interesting.
Mostly @ Min
If we feign defeat and fall how much altitude would we loose and how many actions could we get in the meantime?
Alternately an obscuring mist might be fun!
Will be centered on Bel, and might be an opportunity for Bel to engage flight hex!
@ Belsarious: I have to break free of this grapple or Valekk will get a bonus in the next round and then Lin wouldn't be able to get free in time before we all plummeted to our possible doom.
Also you can fall up to 500 feet in one round, since we are only 150ft up we would smash into the ground which would result in 15d6 damage to each of us. >.<;
So right now i'm coming up with a plan to break free and crush Valekk in a couple rounds, if the dice gods decide to be merciful, I wouldn't hold it against anyone to run for the hills. That includes you Belsarious ;), you still have hero points that you haven't used and could easily start running away. Depending on where the walls of fire and wind are you might have some difficulty getting out unscathed.
I had planned on punching a hole in the enemy lines so we could retreat and having done that my job is complete. =) Other then Valekk, The Marrashi and Furies are not enough to put up much resistance for everyone. Nor stop you guys from completing the mission and destroying the abominations.
@DRA:
I was thinking of using Bodyguard to stop the Furies strike on Lin, but I ran into a issue. I tried seeking answers in the rules section but apparently no one has asked the question yet. :P
Since Bodyguard can be used on adjacent allies, whenever they are attacked. And its use costs me an AoO to do then its easy to assume that my allies can only benefit from the assistance once per round of course. But It doesn't state in the feat or any where else that it cannot be used to counter an AoO.
So Furies AoO -> Min uses Bodyguard (AoO) to counter = ?
Its an awesome feat but very vague on when it can and cannot be used. Technically I could possibly stop the AoO on Lin. But its up to you, how you want to proceed with this. So I didn't want to post anything until I heard your thoughts.
@Belsarious again~:
For the most part Min's actions will be absorbed in giving Lin Focus so she can perform full round of actions.
It will take Lin a standard action to attempt to break/reverse the grapple and if she succeeds she will have only a move action left over.
So Min = SA: For Focus and 1 Move action left free (Unless I spend another hero point to get an extra action :P)
Lin = SA: Break Grapple, 1 Move Action left over.
You still have a Full Round's worth of actions, so good luck Belsarious! xD
I was going to try and attack Vallk but I can't reach.