The Iron Carnival - Pentor Lionsmane's Mercenary PbP - #2 Squad

Game Master Monkeygod

Also are we ever instituting that hero point idea?

Also are we ever instituting that hero point idea?

I was just coming over here to discuss that. Since we're Mercs, the idea was to go with the Anit-Hero option, which allows a bonus feat. However, to emphasize the squad feel, it must be a teamwork feat.

As to Pentor, no idea. Either he's incredibly busy irl, lost internet access, or for some odd reason chose to walk away from the game. Wish I knew, as his return could help keep us all together.

A bonus teamwork feat is a great idea. Though if we do get one, does that mean we will eventually run into enemies with hero (villian?) points?

I'd totally be willing to take shielded caster, but that would mean Nine-Tail would have to take it. Being as he's the only person in the group that uses a shield. If not I'd certainly take Swap Places or Lookout . Any takers?

Would the unit as a whole have to take a singular teamwork feat or could we each take a teamwork feat to match our needs?

Heh! Pentor Lionsmane - God of Rag tag Mercs and Sell Swords. I like it!

Ahm I can take Shielded Caster too. But it would be like in Extreme situations when I dump the Crossbow and heft up the slab of Steel on my back!

Hey Fury, Captain Ryuko calling you over in the recruitment thread lol. If you're still interested you should prolly post before I give your spot away.

Would the unit as a whole have to take a singular teamwork feat or could we each take a teamwork feat to match our needs?

take em to match your needs. Also, ima steal an idea from my GM and say that the teamwork feat is a floating one, able to be changed out at each level.

Think I'mma take Precise Strike or Lookout as my Feat. Hmm...

Dotting...

Precise strike looks good to me.

Tis a strong Feat for men of our stature Gremlin!

I was thinking Outflank. Could be talked into Precise Strike, but hitting something always seems better than the chance for a little more damage.

Don't forget that someone else needs to have the feat in order for it to work. Unless you're going to hand-wave that requirement MG.

I was thinking Outflank. Could be talked into Precise Strike, but hitting something always seems better than the chance for a little more damage.

Outflank has a requirement of BAB +4.

Good to know...then Precise Strike it is

Good to know...then Precise Strike it is

Awww, you mean you don't want to be my buddy and take shielded caster?

Nine Tail wrote:

Good to know...then Precise Strike it is

Awww, you mean you don't want to be my buddy and take shielded caster?

I don't think I am going to be back by the casters much, is all. Well, once everyone makes their preferences I will see where I can be swayed.

In a couple of levels, I won't have to worry about you guys having my teamwork feat to get the bonus... Solo Tactics is *sweet*.

Outflank would be nice at a higher level, but right now I'm thinking Lookout- or Precise Strike, but again, I'd need to wait a level to get the benefits. Though that might not be a bad trade-off?

Don't forget, the teamwork feat is a "floating" one: choose whichever one you want now, and if, when u level up, u want to swap it out for a different teamwork feat, you can.

Valen Morse wrote:

Nine Tail wrote:

Good to know...then Precise Strike it is

Awww, you mean you don't want to be my buddy and take shielded caster?

I don't think I am going to be back by the casters much, is all. Well, once everyone makes their preferences I will see where I can be swayed.

But right now a lot of my spells are short range, i.e. color spray and burning hands. So I have to be towards the front lines. But hey if you don't want to that's fine.

If you want Acune I'll take lookout with you.

On a completely unrelated but still awesome note. I pre-ordered the Mass Effect 3 Collector's Edition. Now we play the waiting game.

Don't forget, the teamwork feat is a "floating" one: choose whichever one you want now, and if, when u level up, u want to swap it out for a different teamwork feat, you can.

Oh, really? Great!

Where would one find a nice list of teamwork feats?

And does one have to be likeable/eat pancakes to take advantage of said feats?

Where would one find a nice list of teamwork feats?

Why right here good sir!

And does one have to be likeable/eat pancakes to take advantage of said feats?

Yes.

So do two people have to take the same feat, or do we take them as a squad? I've never played with teamwork feats before.

So do two people have to take the same feat, or do we take them as a squad? I've never played with teamwork feats before.

You and an ally have to both have the same feat. Then, if you meet the prerequisites, you get the benefit. For example, if you and an ally are flanking an enemy and you both have the Precise Strike Feat, you both get to add 1d6 to your damage rolls. However, if only one of you has it, no benefit.

Tok Silverfist wrote:

So do two people have to take the same feat, or do we take them as a squad? I've never played with teamwork feats before.

You and an ally have to both have the same feat. Then, if you meet the prerequisites, you get the benefit. For example, if you and an ally are flanking an enemy and you both have the Precise Strike Feat, you both get to add 1d6 to your damage rolls. However, if only one of you has it, no benefit.

Unless of course you're special like Acune is and have levels in Inquisitor. Then you get to use teamwork feats on your own.

Hiros Gremm wrote:

Tok Silverfist wrote:

So do two people have to take the same feat, or do we take them as a squad? I've never played with teamwork feats before.

You and an ally have to both have the same feat. Then, if you meet the prerequisites, you get the benefit. For example, if you and an ally are flanking an enemy and you both have the Precise Strike Feat, you both get to add 1d6 to your damage rolls. However, if only one of you has it, no benefit.

Unless of course you're special like Acune is and have levels in Inquisitor. Then you get to use teamwork feats on your own.

At third level.

So, Lookout, Valen?

Madclaw wrote:

Hiros Gremm wrote:

Tok Silverfist wrote:

So do two people have to take the same feat, or do we take them as a squad? I've never played with teamwork feats before.

You and an ally have to both have the same feat. Then, if you meet the prerequisites, you get the benefit. For example, if you and an ally are flanking an enemy and you both have the Precise Strike Feat, you both get to add 1d6 to your damage rolls. However, if only one of you has it, no benefit.

Unless of course you're special like Acune is and have levels in Inquisitor. Then you get to use teamwork feats on your own.

At third level.

So, Lookout, Valen?

Sounds good to me!

Pity we don't have a Cavalier. "Hey Corporal, you aint hiding a mount under all that hair are you? Could sure use one of em fancy Cavalier types!" Heh!

So should I take lookout, too? Or can I be of assistance in any other way?

No one else has piped up so I guess you should take lookout. Plus you have a nice bonus so to perception so it'll be a good addition.

This is the aim for half a dozen levels time

Also, since I can match the prepared or known spells of any class if I need to, I could make allied spellcaster work quite well if anyone else wanted to take it. +1 round to the duration of Valen's battlefield control spells could be nice, though I would then be casting them too which might be a bit OTT. +1 HP restored by all cure spells if healing in tandem with Acune, though, could be very useful.

This is the aim for half a dozen levels time

Also, since I can match the prepared or known spells of any class if I need to, I could make allied spellcaster work quite well if anyone else wanted to take it. +1 round to the duration of Valen's battlefield control spells could be nice, though I would then be casting them too which might be a bit OTT. +1 HP restored by all cure spells if healing in tandem with Acune, though, could be very useful.

HAHAHA! I AM BULLET PROOF!

This is the aim for half a dozen levels time

Also, since I can match the prepared or known spells of any class if I need to, I could make allied spellcaster work quite well if anyone else wanted to take it. +1 round to the duration of Valen's battlefield control spells could be nice, though I would then be casting them too which might be a bit OTT. +1 HP restored by all cure spells if healing in tandem with Acune, though, could be very useful.

Well, third level's a new feat.

I don't think it's worth your third level feat if you're already set on taking lookout as the free feat. To be honest lookout is probably more useful - perhaps we should all take that and render the squad un-ambushable.

alternatively, a couple of other thoughts:

Tok and Gremm are both prime candidates for enlarge person, which I could take as a wierd science device or just buy a wand for, so paired oppertunists would work quite nicely

I could help Fury out quite a bit if we both took duck and cover - I could use a shield to give him +2 cover against ranged attacks and use unseen servant to (with monkeygod's permission) reload a light crossbow without needing both hands free.

alternatively, a couple of other thoughts:

Tok and Gremm are both prime candidates for enlarge person, which I could take as a wierd science device or just buy a wand for, so paired oppertunists would work quite nicely

Enlarge person, IMO, isn't all that great. Really all you're getting is a step up on dice damage. Otherwise you loose AC and your attack bonus doesn't go up. Yes, you get 5 foot reach but really not all that great unless you're already using a reach weapon. I suggest wands of Leaden Weapon. It increases the damage dice by 1 size category and you don't have to get bigger and all the associated penalties that come with that.

The extra five foot of reach is all you need. At low levels we're mostly going to be up against medium foes against who it garuntees an attack of oppertunity or large foes against whom it negates their garunteed attack of oppertunity. It's all about the AoO, the step up in dice damage is just a nice bonus.

Also, the net +1 to CMD isn't to be sniffed at. The only drawback is ranged attackers, and they won't be in every fight. That's my two copper at least.

I will admit though, it looks naff. 'Hulking out', becoming a larger and more monsterous, is cool. Becoming a perfect replica of yourself, just twice the size, is somehow rather annoying.

Anyone want to elect Tok the new face of the party? Geez...

I wouldn't worry about it, the mayors a nutter. Though helplessly watching the village you supposedly run collapse around you probably does that to a man.

And this is why Gremm always kept his mouth shut while Pa did the talking.

Well an 8 charisma actually isn't all that bad. It's only a -1 and average cha is a 10. Really an 8 is that bad of a cha. being as you could potentially have a 5. 7 minimum and -2 for dwarf racial. Although, you get a +2 bonus for dealing with other dwarves and gnomes and halflings. So really it kinda evens out.

I feel like that escalated really quickly. Tok's an ass, yes, but I can't imagine that his words would push somebody that far that quickly.

I feel like adjusting my ability scores to go down to 5 Charisma. That might be kind of fun to see what kind of trouble I can get The Carnival in to.

@Torque - After watching that Team Fortress Video... I want to petition for a new Squad Healer! :S Hahahaha

@Torque - After watching that Team Fortress Video... I want to petition for a new Squad Healer! :S Hahahaha

Archimedes get out of zhere!

I feel like that escalated really quickly. Tok's an ass, yes, but I can't imagine that his words would push somebody that far that quickly.

I feel like adjusting my ability scores to go down to 5 Charisma. That might be kind of fun to see what kind of trouble I can get The Carnival in to.

Lowering it to a 7 would give you an additional 4 points to play around with. That could get you a higher stat.

Tok it wasn't just you, but also exactly what you said. Torque had already offended him somewhat, and then you basically say that he was a failure as a mayor cuz he tried to do his best. Not only that, but you also refused to listen to him, and then to make matters worse, claimed you hired to do a job.

Who hired you?? The tavern wenches?? The aged priest?? Perhaps it was the random guy Acune and Gremm talked to???

Ya, exactly.

The tavern wenches hired us with a down payment of pancakes?

We're not exactly elite, after all...

As for your request goes Fury, give me a few levels. Stoneskin is a decent approximation of ubercharge after all. Perhaps the DM (do I call you Voice or Monkeygod?) will allow an improved version if I implant a mega-baboon heart into you.

Also, what's the ruling on unseen servant reloading crossbows or repeating crossbows? It's worth noting that it can only move 30' per turn, which means using it in combat limits mobility somewhat.

Gremm grows impatient.