The Bogshark Fiasco

Game Master Lord Grey

Chapter 3 - Circling Sharks

The storm spins overhead. Lightning crashes, fiery explosions cast red glares in brief bursts over the city. Freezing rain sweeps the streets, and the cities' dazers shamble toward the lightning struck house.


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HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

okie dokie, will do


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

hmm, looks like you cant nest spoilers. too bad :D


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

The extended background is up if you're interested. You can get more info over at the wiki of course (like if you want to look up who some of the people are or what the houses are like)


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

oh don't worry, i will :D


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

Got a question for ya, Grey: What year are we, Dale Reconing? If you ahve a specific year, that is. Just want to know, if its earlier than the "latest" year, what events have or have no happened yet if I am reading things in the wiki


You bastard, don't make me research the timelines! XD

I have no idea. Modern probably, whatever that is?

Why? What are the details that you've been seeing that make you curious about the answer to this question?


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

nothing that jumps out at me, though the wiki articles frequently reference situations before and after certain dates, etc, so if it comes up in dialogue I wanted to know what things Grellik would have no knowledge of, etc. But I will simply assume that all events in the wiki have happened, unless otherwise specified.:D


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

the big one would be pre or post spellplague


Ah yes. Yeah, post spell plaque.


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

No worried from me on the spoilered pages. It showcases the interesting factor of PBP that you can do double-blind gameplay that you couldn't ever really do at a gaming table without significant hassle, and that splitting the party up doesn't 'take time away' from anyone, since they can all be replied to at once


Heh, well. There has been points where Adrien and Triss have been waiting for my reply but haven't gotten it for several more minutes as I was finishing off the Grellik section.

But yes, much LESS time away than normal. PBP is kind of cool.

As a GM I like that it gives time to actually think about a player's ideas without being put on the spot. It is more writing-based than it is improv, which I like. I can do some improv, but where it conflicts with my writing I feel like I'm scrambling. Having the time to contemplate my responses is very nice.


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

Sorry, I should have said without taking significant time away :P
Yeah, the ability to compose what you want to say how you want to say it is quite nice (though you miss out on vocal inflection, etc., but you can't win em all. :D).


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

nice for those of us who lack vocal inflection :]


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

I'm sure you have inflection, but yes, it can be easier to convey impressions in prose for some :D


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

sorry, haven't gotten a chance to read through all the other spoilers yet to know how I want to respond


No bigs, totally understandable. Can't wait until you gets meet up with Grellik and have to lose two days to just reading through each other's adventures to catch up.


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

Holy cow Adrien! Epic post.


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

Thanks!


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

Can't wait until I meet up with you guys and can read it again. All I know is that it seems, from the phrases that have popped out as I scroll, the escape attempt is fairly imminent. The suspense is killing me :D


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1
Grellik wrote:
BTW guys, do you have any ideas or preferences on how your characters relate to Grellik> For instance, I can see Adrian not taking much liking to the former knight at first, given how he feels about pomp, circumstance, and the nobility in general, but warming up to Grellik's sincerity. And I imagine that Grellik respects Trissae's dedication, but does not share her optimism that the public will ever be accepting of them, or look past their race.

Sheldon reminded me of this recently and I've been thinking on it some.

On nobility: Cavell wouldn't feel too strongly about that. For one, Grellik clearly isn't nobility, he's a bugbear. But he seems like he tries to act like a noble. The irony there gives Cavell a 'chuckle and shake his head' reaction.

On pomp/self-importance: Cavell's a different brand of cockiness. He would probably be telling Grellik to lighten up if he was particularly solemn, or was over-analyzing something.

Their main clashing point I think would be in combat prowess. Grellik likes to test his mettle, likes a fight, likes sparring--and Cavell is the same--but Cavell would have been a level 1 fighter vs. a lvl 3 eldritch knight, so those fights would be very one-sided. Cavell hates losing and is extremely proud. That would be the main obstacle to them getting along. Cavell would be sulky and angry after losing any sort of spar, refuse any tips or advice from Grellik, etc., and just train harder on his own. He'd probably start refusing to spar after the second or third defeat. Maybe a month to cool off, then he'd be more receptive to being on friendlier terms with Grellik again.

Their secondary clashing points: Cards. Once again, Cavell hates losing and is extremely proud. Since they both have cards proficiency, they'd be pretty close in skill level. Cavell would be better at bluffing, Grellik would be better at strategic plays. I think this would be less a point of contention between the two of them, and maybe a point to bond at, since despite their level difference they would be close in skill, and so the games wouldn't be so one-sided. In a way, this would soothe Cavell's ego, and give him an outlet to occasionally beat Grellik at something. He'd still hate losing, but would like the challenge just as much.


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

aww I was hoping to get a reaction out of Adrien with my saucy dance-prayer :(

As for the stuff with Grellik: Triss would appreciate the mix of martial and magical mastery, since its not too unlike bard. you're right about the racial debate, I'm sure more than one conversation about the merits of fighting the racial stereo type has come up between us. Triss is a lover night a fighter though so I doubt the debates were very heated though.

I kinda like to have some of the back and forth about our history to come out through gameplay also (like what Adrien and I have had)


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

Snape kills Grellikdor?

Oh, thanks for reminding me about Trissae's dance, sort of forgot about it in all the escape-fervor


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

RE: Cavel & Grellik: As far as sparring goes, I don't image we'd be that uneven (similarly to how our card skill is actually the same, aside from action surge, a lvl 1 fighter and a lvl 3 aren't that different), though Grellik is power based and Adrian is agility based. Unless Grellik used magic, but I don't figure he would in sparring. But I'm fine with the dynamic as you described it, just be to clear :D

He is pretty jovial in general, though he can become somber and introspective at times, so I aimgae there have been a few times that Cavell has nudged him to get out of his own head.

RE: Triss &Grellik: sounds good. Grellik is a fighter not a lover ;P, but he is congenial enough in most things that his end would not have become heated either--he just thinks that society at large will never accept 'us.'

And, yeah, I'm fine with not having everything hammered out, and revealing and deciding things in the middle of gameplay. I just wanted to have a starting point of how Grellik has interacted with the other sharks in general for when we first meet up in game. :D


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

Mainly it's the HP difference. 10 hp vs 36. Grellik's greatsword attack is a median of 10 damage, and his chance to hit Adrien would be 50%. So on average he would win in 2 turns.

Adrien does do more damage, with a median of 15, but his chance to hit Grellik is lower. Grellik also has Action Surge.

Sample fight, Adrien going first just to give him an edge. Not going to include second wind since that just makes the fight go longer, but there's a +2 HP advantage for Grellik there if it was included.

Adrien:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (4) + 5 = 9
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (3) + 5 = 8
Both misses.

Grellik:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (9) + 5 = 14
Miss.

Adrien:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (19) + 5 = 24
Both hits.
1d8 + 3 ⇒ (5) + 3 = 8
1d8 + 3 ⇒ (3) + 3 = 6
14 Damage. Grellik at 22 hp.

Grellik:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (19) + 5 = 24
Hit.
2d6 + 3 ⇒ (5, 1) + 3 = 9
9 Damage. Adrien at 1 hp.

Adrien:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (16) + 5 = 21
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (5) + 5 = 10
1 hit.
1d8 + 3 ⇒ (8) + 3 = 11
11 Damage. Grellik at 11 hp.

Grellik:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 5 = 13
Miss.
Action Surge:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (13) + 5 = 18
Hit.
2d6 + 3 ⇒ (1, 6) + 3 = 10
10 Damage. Adrien is down.

If Grellik didn't use action surge and the fight continued...

Adrien:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (9) + 5 = 14
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (8) + 5 = 13
Both misses.

Grellik:
1d20 + 5 ⇒ (13) + 5 = 18
Hit.
2d6 + 3 ⇒ (3, 5) + 3 = 11
11 Damage. Adrien is down.

Adrien made 8 attacks and landed 3, which is average statistically vs. 17 AC. He did 25 damage, higher than the median of 22.5.

Assuming no action surge, Grellik made 4 attacks and landed 2, which is exactly average statistically (+5 atk vs 15 AC). He did 20 damage, exactly the median of his damage range.

So that's a very middle-of-the-road example, but with Adrien getting a bit lucky on his damage, and going first (which is an advantage in a duel). Grellik's first attack was below average. Most of the time that first hit would end the fight. Adrien could roll super lucky, and Grellik super bad, but it's unlikely. And mind you this is all excluding Grellik's spellcasting ability.


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

I am thinking of sparring as being non-related to HP. As in sparring would be to the hit, then squaring off and facing again, rather than wearing down HP. IF HP is a factor than yeah, its going to be in the favor of the higher-leveled fighter, especially with Greys very generous level up HP :D


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

"Owned!"

Mornak:"Stay out of it Triss."


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

Man, now you guys are putting teasers in the discussion! ;p


Also, I'm fine with background details of power being a little bit more fast and loose than how you're calculating things, Cavell.

For example, even though Grellik is only on the cusp of level 3 (the min required to cast spells), we are assuming Grellik has been able to use magic for some time.

Basically, if it is in your background, I'm a bit more flexible about how your powers were earned. I still think it is reasonable to assume Grellik has been the stronger fighter of the two of you, but not because of statistical calculations based off of hit point breakdown and score-cards (as they are at this point in your lives) comparisons.


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

Well firstly, Grellik is higher level and part of the 'Elites'. Stats came second as an example.


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/a/ac/Father_and_ daughter.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070122004441

Corellon and Eilistraee ^_^


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

link doesnt work for me


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

hmm, me neither now. Blast!


Actually, I think it came out in the end that Grellik ISN'T one of the elites. I don't say this to affect this argument, only to clear up a potential misconception.

Remind me if I'm wrong Grellik, but I remember you deciding that it would make more sense if you weren't a bogshark elite, and instead just a long-termish member who is fairly strong.

Additionally, some of Grellik's strength could have come about during his most recent adventure. I really don't care if this is true or not, I'll leave that up to you guys to decide on what level Grellik was compared to the rest of you when you last saw each other.


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

Yeah, Grellik ended up not being elite, but simply more traveled. Thus he was out digging up dirt on the mysterious death of his mentor when this all went down.
I'm cool with having been of equal power when I left them, or slightly stronger. Adrian: do you like the idea that Grellik was stronger and pushed his buttons without trying to? If you have a preference one way or the other lets do it that way. :D


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

Clearly Triss is the most powerful. Just look at dem hips!


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

daaaaayum! ;P


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

Ahhh that's news to me :D

I've no opinion on what the relationship ought to be. Thoughts?


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

the two of you are bitter rivals, the kind that revel in the competition. Adrien from a noble house with aspirations of getting away and Grellik a lowly Bugbear with noble aspirations!

From worlds apart the two of you found each other within the sharks, a good natured joke only the likes of Garl Glittergold or similar could concoct.
A battle of pride, ideals, and prowess is what has always fueled you but in the end, this same fuel has been the source of energy for the friendship that has developed ever since.

--Intro scroll cut

-opening scene:
Close up of Adrien with sweat on brow, cocky smirk on face, blood on lip. He quickly parries a blow and the camera zooms back revealing the menacing huge Grellik. At this point the audience thinks the battle is a pitched one, Adrien fighting for his life. The combat continues at a fevered pace: ducks, swings, parries and the flash of steel constantly.

-Cut to far shot:
The two look to be at a stand-off and are about to lunge when from off scene A gruff dwarven voice calls out:

Giant:"Knock it off lads, you been at it since sun up, grab your food or I'll stick the blunt side up both yer arses!"

aaaaaaand scene!

Mornak:"Triss, I told you to stay out of it."


Caira: Come on! They were just about to finish the thing! AUGH! It's like getting pulled out before a good play finishes! You're all worse than my parents.

Igna: The hero either dies or wins over the girl. There, now you know the end of every play.


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

Heh works for me :D


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

Grellik: don't forget the third outcome: Hero wins the lovely lady and still dies in the end.
Sure, we can be bonded over rivalry :) I'm going to say you are better at cards (this is backed up my stats, I think, but its primarily a chrater concept decision. Grellik likes playing cards and other recreational games, but its ones of Cavells things, it seems. Just feels right for him to be better at that. (and unless anyone else has anything to work out I am good on pre-decided character relationships :D)


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

Dang it you guys! Always when I'm at work!


HP: 55/71, AC: 15, HD: 4/9, Pass Perc: 16 (Darkvision 60), Init: +1, Spell Save DC: 14, Inspiration: Y

Well if we didn't post while you were at work, we'd do it while you were asleep.


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

Be quiet Ozz :p


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

F#~&ing Ozz...


HP 27/72, AC 17, Init +0, P.P. 13[darkvision60], Saves: S+8, D+0, C+6, I+3, W+4, C-1, Spell Save DC:15

hahaha


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

btw i think triss' insight is at -1


Correct, it is.


AC 14, HP 44/61, Init +5, P.P. 11, S. DC 16, Insp: 1, HD: 6/9, BI: 0/4, 1st (4/4), 2nd (1/3), 3rd (0/3), 4th (0/3), 5th (1/1) Bard (9)

Jack of all trades baby! +1/2 my proficiency bonus to any skills I'm not proficient in!


HP 47/63, AC 18, Init +7, Passive Perception 15, Saving Throws: Str +4, Dex +5, Con +4, Int +0, Wis +2, Cha +2, HD: 1/6 + 2/3, Insp: 0/1, SD: 4/4, AS: 0/1, SW: 0/1

aw shiz, nice!

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