Fair enough.
I guess I was trying to argue that point, Creativity should always trump Rules, to an extent.
I don't see the point about the Computer thing though. :) There's tons of stories in our life span about Computers turning into 'Gods' of sorts.
One of our biggest inherent fears as living creatures-- becoming irrelevant in a world of machines. Man versus Man (in a fashion), i.e. himself and his works.
Still ...I'm okay with the 'physical' form of the being, being 'evil' in it's fleshy/spiritual matrix of 'stuff'. What I am /not/ in agreement with an instant 180 switch from LG to CE just because the system says, "Yer evil now."
That's not cool, ever. That might just be up there with the GM simply asking you to give the sheet over 'cause you blew a save and no chance for res. Table flipping moment, if ever there was one.
Hope that makes sense.
Honestly, there were far more brutal moments then "fail a save no chance for Rez"
In older campaigns, I've heard of instant death, no save, no Rez due to sphere of I-can't-spell-the-word.
Not entirely sure of the context of it, but from what I know, a PC was expected to stumble upon this.
Sphere of Annihilation, old school 2nd Ed AD&D, iirc.
That made sense though-- playing with a force of destruction that obliterates anything it touched, you couldn't save-- hell, you could barely keep it in check. Story elements there, if you didn't ignore them, with rules to support it.
A black hole that floated around by your will.
-- I'm going to be going offline for a bit --
Should be checking back in a few hours to update, it should be obvious that Muraleniel's attention shifted from Jeran to Kevin, once Kevin speaks up and 'takes charge'.
He certainly doesn't appear 'rushed either', incidentally.
Sphere of Annihilation exists in PF, and has always been an artifact. By their very nature, such items are outside the normal rules.
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So my friend took my hat and smelled it, telling me that people's hats and beds smell like the person's natural scent. Apparently I smell naturally of old books.
Not sure if I should be concerned or think that this is cool and deep that smell naturally like one of my favorite things...
I probably smell like a fart....an old fart that is...
joking btw
You're not that old. :P
But I still hold the title as the youngest player here. XD
While I have the impression my 'scene' with Jeran, et al, is probably making many of you involved scratch your heads (or sigh at the lack of combat)... I hope it's somewhat enjoyable, in some fashion. Over all, however, I get a sense it's not engaging, so I am going to move it along with an open offer to continue the story line (per that last post) without completely butchering the NPC's motivations and goals due to my OOC perceptions.
Cheers.
I am enjoying the scene
Dave is frustrated (and working hard to not show it) by a lack of much needed stress relief
Even still he's interested in spite of himself.
I am enjoying the scene
Dave is frustrated (and working hard to not show it) by a lack of much needed stress relief
Even still he's interested in spite of himself.
Ah, splendid to hear.
I tried to put some 'ties' into it-- seeing if you would 'snap', but Kevin stopped you IC. It might have proven entertaining if you had 'vented'.
Who knows too-- perhaps there's some bonding that could happen, that would make Team Hot Guys a re-occurring theme in the future.
He's not a raging brute, the explanation he gave was the truth as he sees it.
There is a goo dragon that would be very happy if this was a recurring thing.
I wanted to see Dave beat the sulphur and brimstone out of a demon as much as anyone else, but I also wanted to get Sam back...
I am engaged with this perfectly well. It's not what I was expecting, but that's not bad. :)
It's an interesting idea. I'm a bit confused, though.
If the angel with a demon army wins, do the goodguys win? Or is it that they have the better army so the demons win?
My interest is left unstated, but I will say settro's attitude is abnormal for a reason.
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I'm actually surprised Jeran is so eloquent.
Definitely a case of still waters run deep. When he isn't dealing with crises and policing his fellow students he actually gets good grades. He just gets dragged into other people's problems so often you'd never know. : P
So tutoring me wouldn't be a bad thing?
Nope. He'd be a good choice of tutor since he also came late to the whole schooling thing. And then caught up quickly. :)
I am willing to fail you to make this happen. :P
Now now, Jeran. Best we not be distracted. :P
Because his abilities and firm were taken from him?
" firm"?
Anwyay, losing his abilities and having his extra wings effectively ripped out didn't help, but there are other, less obvious reasons.
Other then that, his physical form didn't change.
Just a warning, might be slow to post today.
Apologies in advance.
Just a warning, might be slow to post today.
Apologies in advance.
Okay, slightly rushed that post out -- but hopefully the gist of it is gotten.
Choose to leave, or 'stay' around.
I'm not sure when I'll post again during the day (if at all), so be warned, might not update until the evening.
Cheers.
There is a goo dragon that would be very happy if this was a recurring thing.
I wanted to see Dave beat the sulphur and brimstone out of a demon as much as anyone else, but I also wanted to get Sam back...
I am engaged with this perfectly well. It's not what I was expecting, but that's not bad. :)
It's an interesting idea. I'm a bit confused, though.
If the angel with a demon army wins, do the goodguys win? Or is it that they have the better army so the demons win?
If you don't ask now, before using the Gate, you might miss the chance to learn.
Might.
Still busy IRL. Will update later tonight.
Throwback Thursday.
Got a tamamgotchi app.
Yeah he is... dom this is arthur, he is my new ganna be maybe boyfriendNEW Boyfriend!!!! Grr. Can I put this one on ice at least?the last one got iced if that matters...but Mel does not know that
and NO you may not, he isn't any official boyfriend anyway.
So what you are saying is yes. He doesn't fall under the boyfriend protection act. :P
Sorry for the sparse posting the last couple days. I'm trying to get caught up on things like dishes and laundry and taking out the recycling that didn't get done for several days while I was too sick to get out of bed. And I'm not recovered enough yet to just bounce back after all that effort. (Yeah, I know it doesn't sound like effort, but trust me conquering Mt. Dishmore was a lot of effort.) I sat down to post like an hour ago and my cat curled up next to me and just purred as if to say, "that's enough, human" and next thing I know I'm taking an unscheduled nap.....
Must be something in the air Lyn. My cat aggresively cuddled me today too, which led to an unexpected nap.
My puppy and I have a scheduled nap/cuddle time shortly :)
If I try and nap with my tamagotchi I'll end up face dialing people...
If I try and nap with my tamagotchi I'll end up face dialing people...
Beats drunken butt dials.
That one isn't an issue for me. XD
Moments from the game table:
"If I keep Dominating him, eventually he'll get Stockholm Syndrome!"
That's... Not how people work.
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He's not a person, he's a hill giant! And he's my pet now! I named him Bill!
No, but it is how magic works! lol all rules are of normality are thrown out the window with magic :)
No, but it is how magic works! lol all rules are of normality are thrown out the window with magic :)
Not really.
Like everything, due to the fact that magic remains consistent, it can be analyzed and used.
As for stockholm's, if it didn't show up the first few times, it Probobly wouldn't show up later.
It's much like making someone eat a food they refused to try-
If they still don't like it after they eat it, stuffing it in their face more won't make them.
No, but it is how magic works! lol all rules are of normality are thrown out the window with magic :)Not really.
Like everything, due to the fact that magic remains consistent, it can be analyzed and used.
You say that, but we can't know its truth, because magick doesn't exist in our reality.
You really can't rule out anything with regards to magick, because you have no idea what it will do to somebody.
For example, in Vampire, there's a power called Conditioning, which is the fourth level of Dominate. Basically it allows you to make a target to a slave to your will alone.
Its kinda the same here. Its entirely possible a person would develop Stockholm Syndrome because anything is possible with magic.
You can't apply real world logic to this sort of thing.
Except you can.
There's nothing, anywhere in the rules that say anything about any lingering effect of dominate.
In vampire, there are rules that say as such.
This world, and it's magic, are often /more/ predictable then reality...
It has a ruleset that we know.
Also, "anything is possible with magic" only so long as you're a high enough level wizard and your dm lets you make homebrew spells.
Spamming a spell that has an exact function? Doesn't change it's function.
If you tell a computer to "display 1" one hundred times, it will display one 100 times.
Yes, and because your GM can let you do anything you want, you can in fact have lingering effects from dominate spells.
Rule Zero baby.
Yes, and then it's your homebrew set of rules.
It's not dominate anymore, save in name, as it has different effects.
It's now a hombrew spell, and these lingering effects should be made out statistically- how many castings? How strong is the lingering effect?
I'm not trying to be a killjoy.
This is how I have my fun- I make rules for everything.
A tiny bronze dragon using it's acidic spit on it's tongue like a file to break an iron bar?
I'll gladly make rules for that, and discuss how reasonable they are before implementing them.
Wanna do some str gained home-brew thing? Talk to be and I'll try and make it into a balanced ruleset so you can use it.
The stockholm syndrome comment was almost entirely tongue-in-cheek BTW. :P
As for me, when I'm DMing, I pretty much make up rules all the time. Hell, I recently had someone roll a 'Badass Check' since the actual rules for what he was going to try were going to be complicated and tedious.
Also it's important to note that while we know magic as a a system of set rules that are easy to follow and never go awry, remember that the people who inhabit the world don't know that. If magic was just about saying the right words with the right motions, almost everyone would be a wizard.
Of course that depends on your setting, which as Ice mentioned, is a homebrew thing. But then I would say that /everything/ is homebrew. It's always up to the players and DM, and rules are "really more like guidelines than actual rules". /wink