The Avalon Chronicles

Game Master lynora

This is a high level rules light game set in a school for magical kids, kinda a mash-up of Soul Eater, Harry Potter, and X-Men. :)


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M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

sure you can! Just need a level in witch.

But seriously, get well, take as long as you need.


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Finally feeling better, and here's a few posts that hopefully make up for the delay. :)


Glad you're feeling better again, Lyn. ^_^

On another note, I've been really happy with my writing lately. I'm so glad the game is finally back on track.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

It is good writing yes


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:

Glad you're feeling better again, Lyn. ^_^

On another note, I've been really happy with my writing lately. I'm so glad the game is finally back on track.

Well, I agree that your writing has been really good lately. So much detail! I've had to step up my game! :)


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Blergh. Why did I think writing out the firebird stuff would be a good idea again? So much writer's block with these scenes. ; ;

Edit: Also I may need to maybe take a break from the manga for a while...I seem to be accidentally parroting the syntax. *hits head on wall*


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Hmm. Now what do I do.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

So, who here knows about the recent super nerf for bows?


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icehawk333 wrote:
So, who here knows about the recent super nerf for bows?

I don't really keep up with that kind of thing. What insanity is it that I'm going to blatantly ignore? ;P


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
So, who here knows about the recent super nerf for bows?
I don't really keep up with that kind of thing. What insanity is it that I'm going to blatantly ignore? ;P

The enchantment bows apply to arrows are a "temporary buff" thst doesn't bypass dr.

They're calling if a clarification, too, as if that's how it always worked.


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icehawk333 wrote:
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
So, who here knows about the recent super nerf for bows?
I don't really keep up with that kind of thing. What insanity is it that I'm going to blatantly ignore? ;P

The enchantment bows apply to arrows are a "temporary buff" thst doesn't bypass dr.

They're calling if a clarification, too, as if that's how it always worked.

Well, that's dumb. It's all or none. Once you start making special cases the whole thing falls apart because some weapons are more equal than others sort of thing.

Mind you, I was never particularly on board with the whole x amount of magic bonus overcomes DR as if x thing rule in the first place and have blithely ignored it from the get-go. Which works just fine because it's the same rule for everyone. All works. None works. In between just doesn't work.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

If it helps they say the same thing for the magic weapon series of spells


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
So, who here knows about the recent super nerf for bows?
I don't really keep up with that kind of thing. What insanity is it that I'm going to blatantly ignore? ;P

The enchantment bows apply to arrows are a "temporary buff" thst doesn't bypass dr.

They're calling if a clarification, too, as if that's how it always worked.

Well, that's dumb. It's all or none. Once you start making special cases the whole thing falls apart because some weapons are more equal than others sort of thing.

Mind you, I was never particularly on board with the whole x amount of magic bonus overcomes DR as if x thing rule in the first place and have blithely ignored it from the get-go. Which works just fine because it's the same rule for everyone. All works. None works. In between just doesn't work.

Same goes for crossbows and the like, but it's basically just a heavy handed nerf to bows for being the best.

Now it requires that you enchant arrows manually, as an arrow enchanted with +3 bypasses like a +3 weapon, but not a non-magical arrow fired from a +3 bow.
But arrows are, you know, expendable.

Also, so noted about the enchantment bouns.

Not bothering with enchantments higher then +1 here in the future, as without the DR bypass, a +1 to hit and damage is just plain worse then quite a few other options.

... Also every melee build will have something like pummeling style or clustered shots.


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
Lord Foul II wrote:
If it helps they say the same thing for the magic weapon series of spells

Doesn't surprise me. Bloody useless spells. :P

(Not entirely. Especially not in this game where magic items are rare. But very, very useless in the in-person game I play in. It's kind of a running joke there.)


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
icehawk333 wrote:
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:
So, who here knows about the recent super nerf for bows?
I don't really keep up with that kind of thing. What insanity is it that I'm going to blatantly ignore? ;P

The enchantment bows apply to arrows are a "temporary buff" thst doesn't bypass dr.

They're calling if a clarification, too, as if that's how it always worked.

Well, that's dumb. It's all or none. Once you start making special cases the whole thing falls apart because some weapons are more equal than others sort of thing.

Mind you, I was never particularly on board with the whole x amount of magic bonus overcomes DR as if x thing rule in the first place and have blithely ignored it from the get-go. Which works just fine because it's the same rule for everyone. All works. None works. In between just doesn't work.

Same goes for crossbows and the like, but it's basically just a heavy handed nerf to bows for being the best.

Now it requires that you enchant arrows manually, as an arrow enchanted with +3 bypasses like a +3 weapon, but not a non-magical arrow fired from a +3 bow.
But arrows are, you know, expendable.

Also, so noted about the enchantment bouns.

Not bothering with enchantments higher then +1 here in the future, as without the DR bypass, a +1 to hit and damage is just plain worse then quite a few other options.

... Also every melee build will have something like pummeling style or clustered shots.

Well, most DR can be overcome with special materials. Which has always put archers at a bit of an advantage since it's easier to carry arrows for all occasions than swords for all occasions. But yeah, the expense does add up over time. Like the feat tax wasn't bad enough, there's an equipment tax too! *glares at the bloody useless Point Blank Shot* (Bit of a sore point as I usually play ranged characters and therefore don't get to actually choose a feat that I actually want until 5th level. Ever. Because the group has a fit if I don't take Precise Shot. Geez. You accidentally hit a party member ONE time....)

But yeah, back to this game, if you're having your magic item be a weapon, definitely the special qualities are more valuable overall. Heck, that's how I tend to view it in general anyways. I'd rather have something that can do stuff that's cool than just a straight up unexciting bonus. :)


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

There is one ranged weapon that still bypasses this whole debacle, and one I hope sees more use- the rope dart.

The single best, and oft overlooked, thrown weapon in the game.

.. Also archers have so many feat taxes due to being the single most powerful martial attacking style in the game.

But instead of nerfing that, maybe they should nerf simulacrum, or emergency force shield, or contengnecy, or teleports that get you out of situations with no consequesnes.


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown

lol. Okay, that's awesome! I did not even know the rope dart existed! Yes, please, let's see more of that! :D


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Benefit: Similar to a meteor hammer, a rope dart can be whirled at great speeds, then aimed to strike and pierce opponents with great reach. Once it strikes, the wielder can quickly retrieve the weapon with a tug of the rope.

That's why the rope dart the best.

It has a 20 foot thrown range (same as a Starknife)
1d4 damage (same as a Starknife)
The abilty to return and be thrown multiple times in a round (same as a sharding weapon, normally a +3 enchantment, but with double the range)
The monk quailty (Astatic style anyone?)
The blocking quality (crane style works too)
And the distracting quailty (and it can be used for feints)

All for one feat.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

Or for 4 FCB for certain races and classes


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

My current favorite exotic weapon is the double chain kama.

1d6/1d6 damage
Reach of 8ft
You can use it one handed(Sup Magus)
And the monk and trip qualities. Disarm possibly too(says you can disarm in the description, but lacks the Disarm quality).


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

All weapons can be used to disarm or used to trip.

Having the trip quailty means you can drop the weapon instead of gettig tripped if you fail by 5 or more. That's it.

The double chain kama does have an adjustable reach, but it's outclassed by the meteor hammer in almost all situations- it does more damage, and when being used as a reach weapon, gives a +1 shield bouns to ac.

The double kama is somewhat disarm resistant, as a plus, and one kama can be used as a one handed weapon, so it can be useful for some niche majus charecters.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

That said, double chain kama is still good, one of very few exotic weapons worth the entrance fee.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Kensai Magus/Weapon Master or Weapon Adept using the double chain kama is pretty badass.

The disarm quality gives you a +2 bonus for that check.

Not all weapons can be used to trip. You can't, for example, trip with a dagger or longsword. You need some sort of reach, or dangling, rope-like quality.

Meteor Hammer is badass, but I would much rather the slashing damage, option to use it one handed double chain kama. That AC bonus is nice, though.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Hm. Trip does seem to be that way.
James jacobs went and said only trip weapons can be used to trip.

Ah well, it was a rather bad menuver anyway.

It barely even works, because everyone flies late game.

A pity that flight negates so much of the actual game.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Reverse Gravity, lol


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Anyway, when i get off work, ill get to breaking the living daylights out of the rope dart, then post it, and see how long it takes them to "clarify" it's usefulness away.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1
Monkeygod wrote:

Reverse Gravity, lol

It doesn't negate flight, and doesn't restore anything thst flight takes away.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

a really rough outline of a rope dart build:

Kobold fighter 13/ monk 1-

Weapon-
+3 cruel merciful adamant rope dart.

Monk feats-
Stunning fist, scorpion style, improved unarmed strike.

Feats-
Point blank shot
Small but deadly
Ascetic style
Ascetic strike
Gorgon's fist
Shatter defenses
Enforcer

Fighter feats-
Precise shot
Weapon focus (rope dart)
Deadly aim
Ascetic form
Perfect strike
Dazzling display
Medusa's wrath

Full attack-
Attack 1
1d8 + 3 (enchantment) +1d6 merciful +6 fighter weapon training +2 specialization
1d8+1d6+11 nonleathal. Make an intimidate check, and if you pass, the target is shaken for a number of rounds equal to the damage they took.
Attack 2-
1d8+1d6+11 nonleathal. If this hits a shaken foe, they become sickened and flat footed.
Attacks 3&4-
Two extra attacks at full bab, so long as they're made agaisnt a flat footed foe.
Flat footed foes take an extra 6 damage due to the kobold racial bouns.
Attacks 5&6-
Last two attacks. If the foe is flat footed, these also deal 6 extra damage.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

refined:

Human fighter 16-

Human feat-
Exotic weapon proficiency (rope dart)

STR: 18 DEX: 18 CON: 10 INT: 7 WIS: 9 CHA: 16

Traits-
Irrepressible

Feats-
Point blank shot
Deadly aim
Dodge
Two handed thrower
Rapid shot
Crane style
Crane wing
Advanced weapon training (versatile training (Thrown))

Fighter feats-
Precise shot
Weapon focus (rope dart)
Two handed thrower
Close-quarters thrower
Quick draw
Improved unarmed strike
Ouysuth guile
Advanced weapon training (armed bravery)
Crane riposte

Advanced weapon trainings-
Trained throw
Focused weapon

Advanced armor training-

Before any magic items at all-

+23/+23/+18/+13/+7
With deadly accuracy-
+17/+17/+12/+7/+2
- 1 when using crane style

Damage-
2d6 + 6 str + 6 weapon training + 1 point blank +10 deadly accuracy

With a +5 weapon and a belt of +6 str and dex-

+31/+31/+26/+21/+16
With deadly accuracy-
+26/+26/+21/+16/+11
- 1 when using crane style

Damage-
2d6+10 str +6 weapon training + 1 point blank +5 enchantment +10 deadly accuracy

Total gp spent 14000/31000

May not be able to afford all of these, but they all are really good to have-

Boots of the battle herald-
1/day for 11 minutes, gain +4 to hit, damage, all skill checks, all saves, and immunity to fear.

Headband of +6 charisma.

Cloak of resistance +5.

Mithril full plate +5.
This, with crane style, and your dex, gives 40 AC total. +4 until a melee attack almost hits you, and +6 Against the melee attacks of one creature.

Also, does anyone have anything for me to do in story?


Male Human-Reaper/obitu Death Mage 11/oracle 1/grim reaper 10

Grim was the last to talk in our discussion I think


Male Drow (noble) 14 Ranger

Was that snippet about chaos among the guards at the festival for Fei's nanites, or does everyone notice this?


Male More Human than Human Rogue 10 / Fighter 6 / Shadowdancer 10 / Void Incarnate 4
Kryzbyn wrote:
Was that snippet about chaos among the guards at the festival for Fei's nanites, or does everyone notice this?

It was for Fei's nanites (as this isn't near the pavilion), but Fei will be sharing that momentarily...in game anyway. Dalesman needs to get some shuteye first ;P

Does Ghalen still have his comm gear on him?


Male Drow (noble) 14 Ranger
The Dalesman wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:
Was that snippet about chaos among the guards at the festival for Fei's nanites, or does everyone notice this?

It was for Fei's nanites (as this isn't near the pavilion), but Fei will be sharing that momentarily...in game anyway. Dalesman needs to get some shuteye first ;P

Does Ghalen still have his comm gear on him?

Always.


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Al's talk about how Ryleh trained him is both funny and kinda sad cause that was basically the last time that she spent with Sheesouroussen and he was why they were using fish to train since he could summon them for her. She's so sad now, I feel bad for her.

But I suppose she's had long enough to have a really good cry and all, which nobody will ever find out about. So she is available for whenever the dragon dudes are ready to show up. :)


Male Drow (noble) 14 Ranger

Step 1) Stare at fish.
Step 2) Gain enlightenment.
Step 3) Profit!


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Wait a sec, Ace has been callin Raelle Rae pretty much since day 1. I thought Elle was the nickname she hated? Does she dislike them both?


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Monkeygod wrote:
Wait a sec, Ace has been callin Raelle Rae pretty much since day 1. I thought Elle was the nickname she hated? Does she dislike them both?

There was a whole discussion about this before, but you probably missed it then. Raelle hates to be called Rae. It's weird and doesn't even sound like her name (which is pronounced Rah-elle, emphasis on the first syllable), and is basically a cutesy name that has been used to make fun of her in the past. You'll notice that none of her group of close friends ever call her Rae. Jiminy calls her Elle, which she finds slightly annoying but at least accepts as an understandable derivative of her name. But really she prefers not to be called by nicknames at all. She kinda rolls her eyes every time Ace calls her Rae.


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Hoping Havel is halfway convincing.


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icehawk333 wrote:

Hoping Havel is halfway convincing.

Havel is good. Ryleh is still going to call him on stuff though, cause that's what she does. She accepts crap from nobody. :)


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown

I'm not ignoring the Festival scene. Just leaving some time for Ace to respond. Just making sure y'all know I'm not leaving you hanging there.


Male Elf Slayer 16

Hey, still waiting on a reply from Mel for the Djalos scene.


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
Djalos Tyon wrote:
Hey, still waiting on a reply from Mel for the Djalos scene.

I've sent a PM to Ed but no reply yet. He sometimes gets called away to deal with real life issues unexpectedly so that's likely what's going on.


Ambigously elven Dragon ??? 16/ dragon shaman 6
lynora wrote:
icehawk333 wrote:

Hoping Havel is halfway convincing.

Havel is good. Ryleh is still going to call him on stuff though, cause that's what she does. She accepts crap from nobody. :)

And Havel is certainly not trying to provide any.


Female awww, but that would be telling unknown
lynora wrote:
Djalos Tyon wrote:
Hey, still waiting on a reply from Mel for the Djalos scene.
I've sent a PM to Ed but no reply yet. He sometimes gets called away to deal with real life issues unexpectedly so that's likely what's going on.

Update: yep, he's been pretty swamped. He says he will try to post tomorrow if he can.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

Anyone want or is waiting on one of my characters?


Male Sapphire Dragon

1d100 ⇒ 99
1d2 ⇒ 1


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

Holy.. I didn't expect him to roll thst so soon.

Uh.

1d3 ⇒ 3
= gem

1d4 ⇒ 1
1 = sapphire
2 = topaz
3 = amathyst
4 = emerald


Figment Narrator 20

99=big deal


M Extrodinaraly Contrary Meatbag Fourm pyromancer 1

On an unrelated note, taking suggestions for what the other half of Havel's getsalt should be.

His defining feature is his drsgon shaman levels, so I never resllt decided on the other half.

Shadow Lodge

Male. Vaguely humanoid Ninja 3/Bard 1/Ranger 2/Scholar 1

Dragon blooded sorcerer/dragon disciple or dragon shamen druid or Dragon fire adept (basically dragon warlock from 3.5) for maximizing dragon theme

Or maybe tatcian psion Or drill sergeant fighter or Cavalier for maximizing teamwork between your followers

Or maybe inquisitor for teamwork feats and worship theme

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