Taking a look at characters it looks like our best value for the armor will be selling it. Everyone else has higher armor and I'm not really sure losing the AC is worth the anti-bleed effect.
I'm eyeing that scarab clasp, though. With the shield I could get a nice little theme going with my outfit.
Now that our initial group has reached 2nd level, do you want to bring in the two new team members at 2nd but with their 1st level wealth (which seems fair), or bring them in at 1st, etc?
It's much more fun to have everyone at the same level.
I'll be picking cleric for 3 levels for Zariya now. I'm still not completely sure what domains I want though. Fire domain seems like a good idea simply because we could use some energy damage against swarms. Glory, Revelation, Heroism and Restoration all seem like ok options, though none are truly amazing/fitting.
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Any input on what ability I grab next level? I was leaning towards Steal Fate or Steal Time:
Steal Fate* (Su): As a standard action, the time thief can attempt to steal a crucial moment from a target’s future, reducing the chance the target will enjoy a happy and prosperous future. The time thief spends a mote to make a melee touch attack that deals no damage. This may be done in place of an attack taken as part of a full attack action. If hit, the target must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + 1/2 the time thief’s level + the time thief’s Charisma modifier) or suffer a penalty to all attack and damage rolls, skill checks, and saving throws. This effect lasts for 5 minutes for every level of time thief the attacker has. The penalty suffered is equal to –1, and increases to –2 at 8th level, and –3 at 16th level.
Steal Time* (Su): With this talent, a time thief can steal time from a target. The time thief spends a mote as an immediate reaction after damaging a target with a melee attack. The target must make a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 the time thief’s level + the time thief’s Charisma modifier) or be staggered for one round per two class levels of the time thief. While one or more targets are staggered by the time thief’s use of this ability, she gains a +1 bonus to all attack, damage, and skill rolls as she uses the stolen time to carefully plan each action she takes.
Steal time seems a lot better than steal fate to me. Honestly Steal Fate seems really lackluster. It's half the penalty of being demoralized, but it requires both a touch attack and a save (against what is normally the strongest save for monsters no less). Of course it does work against anything, but I'm still underwhelmed. Steal time is going to get a lot better as we gain in levels. Right now it'll probably be mostly useful against monsters with multiple natural attacks, but once the enemies start getting iteratives staggered is an awesome debuff to add to things. Hmm, I guess Steal Time gets ok at level 8 when you can use it with your -5 iterative (which will then be much more likely to hit than a regular attack due to targeting touch) and it'll also impose twice the penalty then.
I would appreciate some input on what domains to pick if any of you have any.
@Jandar-Ki Staggering a target for 1 round can be a nice way to disable living foes, and you get a bonus to hit and damage. However, it's pretty short duration and requires a melee attack to hit and damage and uses up a mote. Steal Fate requires only a melee touch attack, still using a mote, and debuffs the opponent which also stacks with other group debuffs, and it appears with itself as well for 10 minutes at 2nd level. If a combat takes 120 rounds, then we have some issues at that point.
@Zariya I would go with Good, frankly. It ups the party's enhancement, has some paladin spells that boost your weapon which you would only be able to get via scrolls, and Zohreh looks like she is covering the defensive end of the cleric spectrum. Sun is also an idea, but it overlaps with Fire at the middle levels. However it is also killer against undead.
I think I might go with Heroism. The first level ability is more powerful, if more narrow, than the ability from good, especially since I'm only planning on picking up 3 levels of clerics for quite a while. I won't be using touch of good in combat anyway since I'll be busy attacking and the spells are all decent, I'm not sure if I'll always get the best use of the anti evil stuff against constructs, swarms and insects...
How are we doing hit points? half+1? average? 75%? Roll? Roll and take half if lower? Roll a number of times equal to constitution modifier?
Is there anywhere we haven't explored so far down there? Does Varisia still have any spells left to use detect secret doors?
Nenet is leveled. :)
^ right, I had the same question about HP.
Zariya is also pretty much leveled except for the HP part...
Roll and reroll if you get below half.
I think I might go with Heroism. The first level ability is more powerful, if more narrow, than the ability from good, especially since I'm only planning on picking up 3 levels of clerics for quite a while. I won't be using touch of good in combat anyway since I'll be busy attacking and the spells are all decent, I'm not sure if I'll always get the best use of the anti evil stuff against constructs, swarms and insects...
How are we doing hit points? half+1? average? 75%? Roll? Roll and take half if lower? Roll a number of times equal to constitution modifier?
Is there anywhere we haven't explored so far down there? Does Varisia still have any spells left to use detect secret doors?
Nothing else left to explore in Akhentepi's tomb.
3 it is.
7 is pretty good :).
I assume that since there are two more people joining us you'll turn up the difficulty significantly over what it's been so far/the standard adventure?
I wonder if I'll be able to find the mithral full plate I want somewhere... Will you be customizing/changing gear to fit our party more appropriately? Not everything of course... But some things...
I don't really have a good idea about how much gold/wealth we've aquired, but given the nature of this campaign it doesn't really feel natural to give away stuff to the new ones. So it might be better if they can somehow bring their own lvl 2 gear. Though that might be difficult without increasing the overall wealth of the party too much.
Heh, lucky second roll
We should have 40k gold from those 4 deluxe funerary masks, so there's that...
Varisia should be good to go. Just another level of arch
2d8 7 is pretty good :).
I assume that since there are two more people joining us you'll turn up the difficulty significantly over what it's been so far/the standard adventure?
I wonder if I'll be able to find the mithral full plate I want somewhere... Will you be customizing/changing gear to fit our party more appropriately? Not everything of course... But some things...
I don't really have a good idea about how much gold/wealth we've aquired, but given the nature of this campaign it doesn't really feel natural to give away stuff to the new ones. So it might be better if they can somehow bring their own lvl 2 gear. Though that might be difficult without increasing the overall wealth of the party too much.
The difficulty will definitely increase. That 1st dungeon is kind of low grade design other then the malfunctioning death trap. As for customized treasure, sure. Though certain things will still be Egyptian in style. Wealth is as people started.
More scarab stuff please. Maybe a nice hat pin? Or a scaraby whip? Maybe I'll take some levels in vigilante and become 'The Scarab'
Well that is a good first roll...
Eh... that isn't so bad I suppose.
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@Jandar-Ki Staggering a target for 1 round can be a nice way to disable living foes, and you get a bonus to hit and damage. However, it's pretty short duration and requires a melee attack to hit and damage and uses up a mote. Steal Fate requires only a melee touch attack, still using a mote, and debuffs the opponent which also stacks with other group debuffs, and it appears with itself as well for 10 minutes at 2nd level. If a combat takes 120 rounds, then we have some issues at that point.
I'm guessing Steal Fate was intended for out of combat use, or maybe as a debuff to trigger combat. Would a target necessarily know that they lost a portion of their timeline? Or could multiple bad touches occur out of combat?
The other reason for considering Steal Fate is trying to fill a different role in the party. Yes, it's underwhelming when compared to a witches hex and similar effects, but is it a niche we need? Otherwise I'm content to go with Steal Time. It's probably more effective at this level anyway.
Jandar, will you get opportunities to pick up whichever one you don't pick now later on in the game?
Speaking of domains, gotta start using my domain powers more!
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Jandar, will you get opportunities to pick up whichever one you don't pick now later on in the game?
Yes, Time Thieves get a new one every other level. So it's really just a question of what role to fill immediately. The full list is here:
As a time thief gains experience, she learns a number of talents that aid her and confound her foes. Starting at 2nd level, a time thief gains one temporal talent. She gains an additional temporal talent every even level except 20. A time thief cannot select an individual talent more than once.
Talents marked with an asterisk require a time thief to spend motes, which she may do only once per round. The evasion talent is not marked with an asterisk because its use does not require the use of a mote, despite the fact that it does allow a time thief to spend a mote to enhance its effect.
Evasion (Ex): The time thief can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If she makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, she instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the time thief is wearing light armor or no armor. A helpless time thief does not gain the benefit of evasion. A time thief with this talent may also choose to spend a mote when making a Reflex save. If she does so, she takes no damage on a successful saving throw, and only half damage even if she misses her save. A time thief must decide to spend a mote prior to making the Reflex saving throw roll.
Improved Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A time thief with this talent can no longer be flanked. This defense denies a rogue the ability to sneak attack the character by flanking her, unless the attacker has at least four more levels in a class that grants sneak attack than the time thief’s class level. If a character already has uncanny dodge from another class, the levels from the classes that grant uncanny dodge stack to determine the minimum level in a class that grants sneak attack required to flank the character.
A time thief must already have uncanny dodge from some source before selecting this talent.
Old Wounds* (Su): As a standard action, the time thief can channel time into a wound, causing it to experience rapid healing, as if many days had passed. The time thief may spend a mote to heal her own wounds, or the wounds of an ally touched. The wounds heal for 1d8 damage +1 per class level of the time thief.
Steady Hand* (Su): The time thief can rewind time by small amounts to erase any minor mistakes she makes as a result of distraction around her. By spending a mote, the time thief may use skills reliably even under adverse conditions. Once she spends the mote, she may take 10 on any single skill check made before the end of her next round, even if stress and distractions would normally prevent her from doing so.
Steal Fate* (Su): As a standard action, the time thief can attempt to steal a crucial moment from a target’s future, reducing the chance the target will enjoy a happy and prosperous future. The time thief spends a mote to make a melee touch attack that deals no damage. This may be done in place of an attack taken as part of a full attack action. If hit, the target must make a Fortitude save (DC 10 + 1/2 the time thief’s level + the time thief’s Charisma modifier) or suffer a penalty to all attack and damage rolls, skill checks, and saving throws. This effect lasts for 5 minutes for every level of time thief the attacker has. The penalty suffered is equal to –1, and increases to –2 at 8th level, and –3 at 16th level.
Steal Time* (Su): With this talent, a time thief can steal time from a target. The time thief spends a mote as an immediate reaction after damaging a target with a melee attack. The target must make a Will save (DC 10 + 1/2 the time thief’s level + the time thief’s Charisma modifier) or be staggered for one round per two class levels of the time thief. While one or more targets are staggered by the time thief’s use of this ability, she gains a +1 bonus to all attack, damage, and skill rolls as she uses the stolen time to carefully plan each action she takes.
Trapfinding (Ex): The time thief adds 1/2 her class level (minimum +1) to Perception skill checks made to locate traps and to Disable Device skill checks. She can use Disable Device to disarm magic traps.
Trap Spotter (Ex): Whenever a time thief with this talent comes within 10 feet of a trap, she receives an immediate Perception skill check to notice the trap. This check should be made in secret by the GM.
Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A time thief with this talent can react to danger before her senses would normally allow her to do so. She cannot be caught flat?footed, even if the attacker is invisible. She still loses her Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized. A time thief with this ability can still lose her Dexterity bonus to AC if an opponent successfully uses the feint action against her.
I'll be scarab up trouble.
Beetling up everything that gets in your way!
@Jardar: I think you can continue to reroll.
@Zohreh: Remember that bit of Luck can be used for stuff like disarming traps too. It's not so useful in combat atm since you got so good attack on your own. It would be awesome in conjunction with a strong two weapon user or natural attacker though.
I'll be bringing carapace to Wati.
@Jandar-Ki Staggering a target for 1 round can be a nice way to disable living foes, and you get a bonus to hit and damage. However, it's pretty short duration and requires a melee attack to hit and damage and uses up a mote. Steal Fate requires only a melee touch attack, still using a mote, and debuffs the opponent which also stacks with other group debuffs, and it appears with itself as well for 10 minutes at 2nd level. If a combat takes 120 rounds, then we have some issues at that point.I'm guessing Steal Fate was intended for out of combat use, or maybe as a debuff to trigger combat. Would a target necessarily know that they lost a portion of their timeline? Or could multiple bad touches occur out of combat?
The other reason for considering Steal Fate is trying to fill a different role in the party. Yes, it's underwhelming when compared to a witches hex and similar effects, but is it a niche we need? Otherwise I'm content to go with Steal Time. It's probably more effective at this level anyway.
Well you have two clerics that can cast doom/bane, but the penalty via Steal Fate stacks based on what I can tell, so you can bad touch someone repeatedly as long as you have motes available and debuff them.
I'll be bringing carapace to Wati.
There is the dung beetle god that the peasants of Osirion worship, called Khepri.
Do worshippers get a yellow submarine?
Nope, just a giant ball of dung and gloves for rolling it.
So can Jardar-Ki reroll his 1 again?
He can reroll his 1.
I'll root out weevil wherever I find it.
I don't think it's safe to rest before we make it out of the necropolis.
Zohreh's got channels for days, we're good :) but yes, should keep moving.
I *think* I have at least one rank in all the knowledge skills now. Assuming fights go longer than a round I should be able to better id everything from here on out.
Zohreh's got channels for days, we're good :) but yes, should keep moving.
Zariya can also channel now. It might be useful if we end up heavy damage. Her channeling won't ever be great (max 2d6), but it'll be something, at least early. At some point she'll be using her channeling to fuel her other abilities instead of using it for healing, but that's a very long way away.
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Proposing we sell the * items...
--FUNCTION: ACQUISITIONS INVENTORY: UPDATING: INITIATE--
*Shovel
*Crowbar
*Tapestry(appraised at 50gp)
*Gold Plated Ancient Osiriani Books (240gp each)
*Fancy Chest (160gp)
*Chariot(Needs to be disassembled and brought topside)
*Mumu's Deluxe Funerary Masks x 4(10,000gp each!)
*Miscellaneous Mundane Weaponry(described as 'spears, swords, and so *Masterwork Khopesh
*Masterwork Spear
*Scroll Cases With Ancient Orisiani Scrolls x Several
*Tapestry(swirling tile room)
*175gp in Gold Leaf
*12 Funerary Medallions
Silversheen x2
Mwk longbow
10x cold iron arrows
*Gold Scarab Clasp (50gp)
*Onyx and silver holy symbol of Osiris (100gp)
*Silver hand mirror (35gp)
*(wolfman gots)Nard(s) (75gp)
*gold funerary mask (500gp)
well-preserved darkwood coffer worth (50gp)
*lapis and carnelian pendant (70gp)
COINS AND GEMS
*assortment of carnelian, lapis lazuli, and turquoise semiprecious *stones (55 gp)
600gp
42sp
WARNING: MAGICAL AURAS DETECTED
Potion of Cure Light Wounds x2 (cl 1)
Potion of Darkvision x2(cl 3)
Potion of Lesser Restoration
AKhentepi's Armor 5,235 gp
--END CURRENT FUNCTION--
Given that we needed the shovel and crowbar once already, I think we had better keep them! Otherwise, I think it might be worth selling the coffer (unless we each want a little souvenir; Varisia mentioned the scarab clasp, and I wouldn't mind the lapis and carnelian pendant!). If there's no one in the party who would use Akhentepi's Armor, then I think that should go as well.
I'll pay whatever the end sell value on the clasp is out of my share if that's ok with everyone. I'm fine selling everything else.
I think it's wise to hold onto at least the potion of restoration. If someone got poisoned or something it's nice to be able to recover and there are bound to be more poisonous enemies to come. I thought some of you were planning to scout? If so then potion of darkvision is almost a must... Though it's much harder to discover traps if you wander of by yourself...
Silversheen is similar, if we encounter enemies where it's useful we would have wished we had it. I can't really figure out what item this is supposed to be though. Silversheen is usually added to a specific weapon. Is it just the materials to add this on? Is it supposed to be silver blanch? Of course by looking at the prices it's probably better to buy something like Alchemical Silver Earthbreakers and Maces for everyone and sell this.
The masterwork longbow would be nice for our hunter until he can get one with a decent strength rating (assuming he hasn't lost interest with the huge delay...). Zariya can of course use it too, but unless the enemies are very far away (which they might be), her chakrams are going to hit a lot harder.
I don't think we actually need the potion of clw with so many people capable of healing, but it might be nice to keep around just in case... What if Jardar is the only one left standing? Then it would be nice to be able to revive the rest so they can heal everyone.
Zariya also really want the lapis and carnelian pendant... Sadly there are only two pieces of jewelry that are practical to use. She'll be quite unhappy if she doesn't get anything tangible for the venture except for gold...
Looking at Jandar-Ki's list, we're pretty much just selling art loot and weapons that are worse than what people can use or people are unable to use. I agree on the clw potions and the bow, except I say distribute them to people who can't cast themselves and sell the rest.
Does anyone else want anything specific off the list? I think it would be neat to all get blinged out a little bit from each venture until we're just sending minions into the tombs while we sip tropical drinks in deck chairs out front.