Souls for a Devil
Game Master Tordek Rumnaheim

Celestial Healer wrote:

Are we a little melee light?

Based on what we've got, I'll go with the Purist Druid to make a primary healer, but it's not a melee focused build.

Channel Energy in exchange for Wild Shape isn't a very even trade, I admit. Can I adjust the cure spells to their cleric levels? It's still a bit of a weak archetype, even then.

Yes - you can use the cleric cure spells. Do you think you will bond with nature and pick up a domain spell or choose an animal companion?

A hint for all: I like undead monsters, the purist druid fits in perfectly with this adventure.

If after a few encounters, we find this archetype is still weak, we can adjust it further.

He's also going to have a weather affinity, so he will have either the Weather (Storm) subdomain or the Air (Cloud) subdomain.

Also, what about 3.5 material? I'm thinking of the Augment Healing feat from Complete Divine in particular.

Tordek Rumnaheim wrote:

Celestial Healer wrote:

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He's also going to have a weather affinity, so he will have either the Weather (Storm) subdomain or the Air (Cloud) subdomain.

Also, what about 3.5 material? I'm thinking of the Augment Healing feat from Complete Divine in particular.

Yes - Augment Healing is fine. The +2 per spell level will only apply to your cure spells, not your channel energy healing, correct?

For others considering 3.5 material. I will consider and accept it along as it doesn't seem too overpowering.

Celestial Healer wrote:

He's also going to have a weather affinity, so he will have either the Weather (Storm) subdomain or the Air (Cloud) subdomain.

Also, what about 3.5 material? I'm thinking of the Augment Healing feat from Complete Divine in particular.

Yes - Augment Healing is fine. The +2 per spell level will only apply to your cure spells, not your channel energy healing, correct?

For others considering 3.5 material. I will consider and accept it along as it doesn't seem too overpowering.

Yes, the feat specifies spells.

Tordek Rumnaheim wrote:

Celestial Healer wrote:

He's also going to have a weather affinity, so he will have either the Weather (Storm) subdomain or the Air (Cloud) subdomain.

Also, what about 3.5 material? I'm thinking of the Augment Healing feat from Complete Divine in particular.

Yes - Augment Healing is fine. The +2 per spell level will only apply to your cure spells, not your channel energy healing, correct?

For others considering 3.5 material. I will consider and accept it along as it doesn't seem too overpowering.

Yes, the feat specifies spells.

Ok then - you can take the feat.

When you each of you have completed your GM only questions, please email or fb them to me, so I can incorporate them into my notes. The questions may be found under the character creation spoiler on the campaign page.

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I just imagined an urban ranger bounty hunter named Dog.

Moving on.

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I think either would be ok. Go with what you think you would have more fun playing.

Ok, my character is pretty much finished, mechanically at least.

Still a work in progress.

HP 2d8 ⇒ (7, 4) = 11

Still a work in progress.

HP 2d8

Looks good so far.

I.. Need a name. Allsmasher seems silly. Urgh this is the hard part.

What’s your concept?

Where is your barbarian from, what is his (or her) race and ethnicity, what weapon does he/she use, what is his/her ‘thing’ (apart from smashing stuff ... if anything)?

I find those sort of questions can help when it comes to finding the right name.

I like to use random fantasy name generators. I keep generating names until one catches my eye. You just know the right one when you see it.

What’s your concept?

Where is your barbarian from, what is his (or her) race and ethnicity, what weapon does he/she use, what is his/her ‘thing’ (apart from smashing stuff ... if anything)?

I find those sort of questions can help when it comes to finding the right name.

I've decided to go with Urzur for a first name. As far as concept, dude's an Ulfen who quit sailing because it didn't pay enough to go into what he calls the 'whatever the hell needs done' business.

Heh heh ... sounds cool.

Thrimbyrson, Oxgutter, Snaevald, Longthews, Gormundr, Stone-Eye, Silverskorr, Runecaster...

You know. Allsmasher is a very Ulfen surname. Urzur Allsmasher. Adequately awesome?

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I don't think that we will be melee light. If the Investigative Bard is what you want to play then go for it. :)

I think I'm up mechanically. Anyone want to look him over?

I think my equipment choices were poor, so if anyone has any recommendations, I'll take them.

Now to work on those background bits for Tordek...

All seems ok so far as I can see.

Equipment-wise, I usually like to pick up a few alchemical splash weapons, though this is probably less critical for a spell-caster. It may (or may not) be worth buying a horse. It also may be worth buying a masterwork weapon (probably bow).

Treppa wrote:

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I don't think that we will be melee light. If the Investigative Bard is what you want to play then go for it. :)

More melee never hurts, but I imagine our Ulfen barbarian will make an excellent primary melee guy, and my magus should be a decent secondary melee person. What we are (so far) short of is a ‘skilled’ character, either the bard or the ranger could probably fit this role fairly well (though with different areas of expertise).

All seems ok so far as I can see.

Equipment-wise, I usually like to pick up a few alchemical splash weapons, though this is probably less critical for a spell-caster. It may (or may not) be worth buying a horse. It also may be worth buying a masterwork weapon (probably bow).

I thought about the weapon, but between spells, channelling, and my lightning-tastic spell-like ability from the Air domain, I have a feeling that bow won't be getting a lot of use. I'll think on it.

I picked up that pearl of power, but I'm wondering if an amulet of natural armor or cloak of resistance would get more utility.

You might be right on that (re the bow).

I was thinking that an AC item would be nice, but we'll want to keep you out of danger as much as possible, being the party healer. I think the pearl of power is a better choice at the moment.

The hard part of any barbarian. Traits.

Wasn't there an item that let you pull out a potion as a swift action? Does anyone else remember that?

I vaguely recall something like that. Was it a Potion Belt? Or something like that. Maybe a 3.5 item, I’m not sure if something like it has officially made it into PF.

It may (or may not) be worth buying a horse.

Do not worry about transportation. I think your employer may provide you with horses in the interest of time. You know the rule with missing persons, every day that passes the trail grows colder...

flash_cxxi wrote:

Treppa wrote:

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I don't think that we will be melee light. If the Investigative Bard is what you want to play then go for it. :)

More melee never hurts, but I imagine our Ulfen barbarian will make an excellent primary melee guy, and my magus should be a decent secondary melee person. What we are (so far) short of is a ‘skilled’ character, either the bard or the ranger could probably fit this role fairly well (though with different areas of expertise).

I'm hoping that both you and I will be ample backup for our Ulfen friend, which will leave CH and Treppa to be Healer and Skill Monkey respectively and taig to fill in a gap with whatever he wants... ;)

Mothman wrote:

flash_cxxi wrote:

Treppa wrote:

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I don't think that we will be melee light. If the Investigative Bard is what you want to play then go for it. :)

More melee never hurts, but I imagine our Ulfen barbarian will make an excellent primary melee guy, and my magus should be a decent secondary melee person. What we are (so far) short of is a ‘skilled’ character, either the bard or the ranger could probably fit this role fairly well (though with different areas of expertise).

I'm hoping that both you and I will be ample backup for our Ulfen friend, which will leave CH and Treppa to be Healer and Skill Monkey respectively and taig to fill in a gap with whatever he wants... ;)

Looks good so far. I really like the back story and tying in with the Lantern Lodge. One small tweak, if the missing person at the end of your back story is referring to this adventure, then it is a son, not a daughter.

Looks good so far. I really like the back story and tying in with the Lantern Lodge. One small tweak, if the missing person at the end of your back story is referring to this adventure, then it is a son, not a daughter.

Thanks :)

Gotcha, I'll amend that now... :)

Hit Points

1st Level (6 + 2 + 1) = 9
2nd Level 1d6 + 2 ⇒ (3) + 2 = 5
3rd Level 1d6 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6

Average Rolls... not bad, not good.

Updating our list of Players

Mothman - Enard Blackblade - Human Magus
Celestial Healer - Savendir Inaris - Elven Purist Druid
Flash_cxxi - MatsumotoRokuro - Human Sorcerer of Battle
Trinam - Urzur Allsmasher - Ulfen Barbarian

This leaves Treppa and Taig to finalize characters.

I'll give everyone about another week to finalize your characters and answer my adventure hook questions. If everyone gets done before that, we can start sooner but I want to allow a little time in case any real life issues are delaying player creation.

This will be my first homebrew adventure. I have run almost 4 books of Rise of the Runelords and 3 books of Kingmaker. After staying within the confines of published material, I am looking forward to a more free-flowing game with no defined path. I have events occurring in the background that you may or may not come across. The world will continue to move in parallel with you. Your actions will definitely influence your little corner of Golarion.

As I am always trying to improve my GM skills, any suggestions or observations about things you like or don't like are very welcome. Also,
if real life intrudes, just let me know and I will try to accommodate as best I can.

See you soon in Korvosa...

I have an alias now. Crunch to follow, I need to finish the gear for him.

Mothman wrote:

flash_cxxi wrote:

Treppa wrote:

I know investigative bard is better flavor-wise for this, and the buffing can sure help (especially at higher levels), but if we don't have meleeers (sp?) to buff, it's pointless. So I'm leaning towards urban ranger, maybe with a rogue dip for sneak attack. Flanking with a barb, it's dynamite. Any opinions? Would we still be melee light?

I don't think that we will be melee light. If the Investigative Bard is what you want to play then go for it. :)

More melee never hurts, but I imagine our Ulfen barbarian will make an excellent primary melee guy, and my magus should be a decent secondary melee person. What we are (so far) short of is a ‘skilled’ character, either the bard or the ranger could probably fit this role fairly well (though with different areas of expertise).

I'm hoping that both you and I will be ample backup for our Ulfen friend, which will leave CH and Treppa to be Healer and Skill Monkey respectively and taig to fill in a gap with whatever he wants... ;)

This looks like a character I'm going to be healing a lot.

Hit Points

1st Level (6 + 2 + 1) = 9
2nd Level 1d6 + 2
3rd Level 1d6 + 2

Average Rolls... not bad, not good.

I have no idea what anything on that character sheet is!

This looks like a character I'm going to be healing a lot.

I'm hoping not too much. His job will be to help take down secondary targets while Urzur and Enard take down the primary ones. :)

The biggest problem is his low AC. I have to try and find ways to boost it significantly. :(

I have no idea what anything on that character sheet is!

The Asian themed stuff is from Ultimate Combat with the other stuff coming from various Companion, AP and Campaign Setting books.

The only thing I have to finish off is his Description, everything else is fully done.

Background is up with a big old spoiler for the GM.

Skill monkey suits me fine. I built a rogue a couple of days ago but wasn't happy with it, or the ranger, or the bard. But rogue will work and sneak attack damage is always sweet.

Mothman wrote:

I have no idea what anything on that character sheet is!

The Asian themed stuff is from Ultimate Combat with the other stuff coming from various Companion, AP and Campaign Setting books.

A few of the Spells are from the 101 Spells series by RITE Publishing. :)

Where is the Battle Sorcerer bloodline / archetype from? I’m not familiar with that one. And I was trying to figure out what an ‘Akari’ was, before I figured out it must be your nodachi – good weapon that one by the way. I’m very intrigued by the ‘overcompensation’ spell, I take it that is from the Rite Publishing book?

Skill monkey suits me fine. I built a rogue a couple of days ago but wasn't happy with it, or the ranger, or the bard. But rogue will work and sneak attack damage is always sweet.

FLANKING BUDDY!

Skill monkey suits me fine. I built a rogue a couple of days ago but wasn't happy with it, or the ranger, or the bard. But rogue will work and sneak attack damage is always sweet.

Any issues with the rogue - anything we can help with?

Hmmmmn I've been reading the AM BARBARIAN build thread and I wonder if the castys in the group should be worried.

AM BARBARIAN is a thought experiment and absolutely nothing I plan to make in this or any other game I actually have any respect for.

I'm aiming for a CAGM build here. >.>

Also, an update on Taig. He is currently in the process of moving and hopes to have his character completed by Monday. I told him that is fine and that if he gets delayed, we can wait a few days longer if needed.

So if all goes well we may be able to get started around next week. Since that is Thanksgiving for us in the US, will that be ok with everyone to begin, or should I plan to start the Monday after Thanksgiving?

I'm ok with anytime next week.

AM BARBARIAN is a thought experiment and absolutely nothing I plan to make in this or any other game I actually have any respect for.

I'm aiming for a CAGM build here. >.>

No problem, I just kidding. I've enjoyed reading that thread, though, I'm about 42 posts behind at the moment. I must confess, as I was reading, I was daydreaming about how, as a GM, I would try to take AM down.

Any start time is ok with me. I’ll aim to have my description added and put the background info into my character profile by then.

I'm aiming for a CAGM build here. >.>

CAGM?

Care About Game Master?

I was trying to figure out what an ‘Akari’ was, before I figured out it must be your nodachi – good weapon that one by the way.

Yeah that's right, it's the name of his Nodachi. The Nodachi is one of a couple of Asian weapons I really like and now that they have stats I was tossing up between that or a Naginata for Rokuro.

I’m very intrigued by the ‘overcompensation’ spell, I take it that is from the Rite Publishing book?

Yep. I am a subscriber to the 101 line and have always wanted to tap them for spells, but my Pen & Paper group won't let me use 3PP material. :(

If you're interested, they are doing a Hardcover Compilation and it will be well worth it in my opinion.

If you haven't already, I have the spell description(s) in the GM section of the Character Sheet for you to look at. The only one of the GM ones other players can't look at is the Secrets one. Feel free to look through the others. :)

Trinam wrote:

I'm aiming for a CAGM build here. >.>

CAGM?

Care About Game Master?

COME AND GET ME!, the MANLIEST of powers. You invite your enemy to punch you in the face.

And... with what I know of the Leadership version of AM... I can't figure something out to challenge the guy. He's. He cheats. Seriously.

Mothman wrote:

Trinam wrote:

I'm aiming for a CAGM build here. >.>

CAGM?

Care About Game Master?

COME AND GET ME!, the MANLIEST of powers. You invite your enemy to punch you in the face.

Ah ... that IS a manly power.