Solstice Scar GM Thread - Session Two (Inactive)

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@Silbeg: Correct. A table may use OR boost the token before passing it, but not both.


12/15/18 - 10/11/13 Social Media Booster (CPR),

Enjoy Silbeg! No boost though I'm afraid!

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@Cwethan: Please make sure to follow the directions for passing tokens, found in the recruitment thread.

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GM Cwethan wrote:
Enjoy Silbeg! No boost though I'm afraid!

Already used and passed!

Come on, GMs! Get your players to use (or boost) the Aid Tokens! Let's keep them circulating!

Liberty's Edge

May table has decided to boost (knowledge). Now just figuring out where to send it.


Season of Ghosts

I've been trying to nudge my players to do something with their token, but no bites yet. Guess I'd better nudge a little harder.


Male Human Expert 1 Warrior 1

Just a had PC death, though thankfully there was a breath of life.

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GM

Already? In the museum? Lucky crit?

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GM Thrawn wrote:
May table has decided to boost (knowledge). Now just figuring out where to send it.

Which knowledge? Good on them!


Male Human Expert 1 Warrior 1
The Man Behind the Curtain wrote:
Already? In the museum? Lucky crit?

No crit, but the advanced clockwork golem was able to grind the fighter to death.

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On the opposite end of the spectrum, my table has been flying through the encounters. They handled the animals, and defeated the banner in one round downstairs, and are one turn from defeating the guardian upstairs. Aside from heading out to the garden to deal with the swarm and encouraging them to RP a little bit, any suggestions for what to do for the next few days until the third floor unlocks?

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My table also decided to boost (Allied Offensive). Is there a list of tables who hasn't received a token yet?

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GM Dennis wrote:
Aside from heading out to the garden to deal with the swarm and encouraging them to RP a little bit, any suggestions for what to do for the next few days until the third floor unlocks?

Give them the option to run an encounter from the next subtier up, and do report another success when they beat it.

GM Baerlie wrote:
Is there a list of tables who hasn't received a token yet?

There is not, but a quick glance through the recruitment thread should be enough to figure it out. At any given time, just look through the last half dozen posts, and that will tell you the last ~12 tables to have held a token.

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Ah, there it is. I was looking for the list. Sorry, could not find a tree in the middle of a forest.

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GM Silbeg wrote:

Fuzzfoot sent #2 to my table...

1d6
Who already used it.

***Token #2***
Passing Aid Token to: Dennis
Current Boosts:/ Allied Offensive (boosted by Marrowtusk)

This brings up a good point: with only nine tables, it's easy to pass a token to a table that has already used one during the same encounter. So, here's a suggestion to help avoid that:

Look at the last time each token was passed. Including yourself, there should be six GMs mentioned in those three posts. Pass your token to one of the three GMs not mentioned.


Season of Ghosts

Finally got some in my group at least talking about what to do with their Aid Token...hopefully I'll be able to pass it along to someone soon...

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Fury's Toll | MotD

As you can tell, I was rolling it randomly, and I thought it checked to make sure it wasn’t a table that had one.

If anyone calls out that they need one, I would have passed it to them

Also, in case my post was misunderstood.... my table used it immediately, even before I saw it was there. That was my comment. They seem to get it and I praised them for it.

So, passing to them is relatively safe... they will keep it moving.


Knowledge | GSC | Mummy's Mask | WftC | RotR$ | Carrion Crown

My group wanted it to go to the highest core table, so I just blindly passed it. However, this makes me wonder - you can't use two tokens in the same encounter, but can you boost a second and pass it on?

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GM Fuzzfoot wrote:
However, this makes me wonder - you can't use two tokens in the same encounter, but can you boost a second and pass it on?

That's a tough question to answer.

Quote:
Once per encounter, any character at a table can use an Aid Token to assist the group in one of the ways described below. Once a tables uses an Aid Token, one of the players then passes the Aid Token to a neighboring table for them to use. A table can benefit from one token per encounter . . . . If a table receives an Aid Token and doesn't need its benefits, they're encouraged to boost its potency by expending some of their own resources or attempting a skill check. Boosting an Aid Token, including attempting a skill check, is part of passing that Aid Token to another table.

Boosting is clearly described as part of the action of passing a token, which is separate from benefiting from it. And the prohibition is on using a token's benefits rather than on receiving it in the first place.

But then there is this text, "Once per encounter, any character at a table can use an Aid Token to assist the group in one of the ways described below." Everywhere else, the passage refers to "benefits" and "tables", but here it says "assist" and "group". Did the author intentionally use "assist" to include both "benefit" and "boost", and "group" to include all "tables"? Boosting is described below, and assists the group at large.

So there's evidence for both sides of the argument, but not enough for me to confidently guess the author's intent.

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boosting wrote:
If a table receives an Aid Token and doesn’t need its benefits, they’re encouraged to boost its potency by expending some of their own resources or attempting a skill check. Boosting an Aid Token, including attempting a skill check, is part of passing that Aid Token to another table. A table can neither retry such a skill check nor boost an Aid Token more than once before passing it to another table. A table may boost a token even while in combat without taking any in-round actions; the scenario assumes the aid was granted before that encounter began. Players should be encouraged to write their PC name down next to the boosted effect along with any other relevant information. Using a boosted effect consumes the boost; the player should erase the boost information from the Aid Token.

I have bolded the passage I think shows the intent. Boosting takes place outside of the encounter, so they wouldn't be using two tokens in an encounter if they boosted on, and used another.

At least that is my reading of the whole thing.

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GM Silbeg wrote:
the scenario assumes the aid was granted before that encounter began.
I have bolded the passage I think shows the intent. Boosting takes place outside of the encounter, so they wouldn't be using two tokens in an encounter if they boosted on, and used another.

Except that the same time-traveling paradox could occur with the first token received during an encounter. I think this part is just a quick fix to speed up token passing.


Season of Ghosts

So in order to boost a token (a Knowledge check for example) I just need to have someone roll the check and then just pass it on? Do I need to give them specific DCs for Easy, Average, Hard?

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GM Ladile wrote:
So in order to boost a token (a Knowledge check for example) I just need to have someone roll the check and then just pass it on? Do I need to give them specific DCs for Easy, Average, Hard?

The player needs to decide which difficulty level to attempt, but should not be told the specific DC.


Season of Ghosts

Okay, noted. Thanks! :)


Male Human Expert 1 Warrior 1

So the tier 10-11"guard creature" fight has what I assume is a mistake.

The dweomer lions have a couple abilities they can use when they are hit by spells. The problem is that the abilities require swift actions. Meaning that they could only be used in the very unlikely case that they are hit by a spell on their turn. The creature that they are based on, the dweomer cat, has similar abilities that require immediate actions instead.

Should I assume that the author meant for these to require immediate vice swift actions?

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MichaelCullen wrote:
Should I assume that the author meant for these to require immediate vice swift actions?

As written, the only way to use these abilities is to ready an action triggered by being targeted with a spell. A typo seems more likely to me though, so I'd use them as immediate actions.

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GM Granta wrote:
GM Fuzzfoot wrote:
However, this makes me wonder - you can't use two tokens in the same encounter, but can you boost a second and pass it on?

That's a tough question to answer.

Quote:
Once per encounter, any character at a table can use an Aid Token to assist the group in one of the ways described below. Once a tables uses an Aid Token, one of the players then passes the Aid Token to a neighboring table for them to use. A table can benefit from one token per encounter . . . . If a table receives an Aid Token and doesn't need its benefits, they're encouraged to boost its potency by expending some of their own resources or attempting a skill check. Boosting an Aid Token, including attempting a skill check, is part of passing that Aid Token to another table.

Boosting is clearly described as part of the action of passing a token, which is separate from benefiting from it. And the prohibition is on using a token's benefits rather than on receiving it in the first place.

But then there is this text, "Once per encounter, any character at a table can use an Aid Token to assist the group in one of the ways described below." Everywhere else, the passage refers to "benefits" and "tables", but here it says "assist" and "group". Did the author intentionally use "assist" to include both "benefit" and "boost", and "group" to include all "tables"? Boosting is described below, and assists the group at large.

So there's evidence for both sides of the argument, but not enough for me to confidently guess the author's intent.

Boosting a token is intended to allow groups that don't need them to pass them along quickly. If a group boosts and passes an aid token and then receives another aid token, they may boost it or use it as usual. The restriction is only on gaining the benefits of an aid token once per encounter.

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Female Human (American Mutt; mostly Irish) Bard (Storyteller) 12 / Game Designer 8 / MR 5
MichaelCullen wrote:

So the tier 10-11"guard creature" fight has what I assume is a mistake.

The dweomer lions have a couple abilities they can use when they are hit by spells. The problem is that the abilities require swift actions. Meaning that they could only be used in the very unlikely case that they are hit by a spell on their turn. The creature that they are based on, the dweomer cat, has similar abilities that require immediate actions instead.

Should I assume that the author meant for these to require immediate vice swift actions?

Dweomer Leap and Spell Link should be immediate actions.


Season of Ghosts

My group is engaging the Living Runes now, so hopefully will be able to add a special success before it's time to move on to the next part :)


Male Human Expert 1 Warrior 1
Andrew Hoskins wrote:
MichaelCullen wrote:

So the tier 10-11"guard creature" fight has what I assume is a mistake.

The dweomer lions have a couple abilities they can use when they are hit by spells. The problem is that the abilities require swift actions. Meaning that they could only be used in the very unlikely case that they are hit by a spell on their turn. The creature that they are based on, the dweomer cat, has similar abilities that require immediate actions instead.

Should I assume that the author meant for these to require immediate vice swift actions?

Dweomer Leap and Spell Link should be immediate actions.

Wow, thanks for the quick reply. As an aside, I love these guys. The scenario has proven deceptively hard for my group. It is nice to see a scenario that challenges a 10-11 group without feeling overly punishing.

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It is possible that my table (3-4 Core) will have the runes taken care of today...

They are rolling really well!

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Mine too. In fact, I reported a success on that encounter earlier, but it doesn't seem to have shown up on the spreadsheet, which is showing 0 successes in A3. Has anyone else reported one?

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GM Dennis wrote:
Mine too. In fact, I reported a success on that encounter earlier, but it doesn't seem to have shown up on the spreadsheet, which is showing 0 successes in A3. Has anyone else reported one?

Problem fixed. Somehow my columns got all mixed up.

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GM Silbeg wrote:

It is possible that my table (3-4 Core) will have the runes taken care of today...

They are rolling really well!

And they have done it!

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PLEASE pass your aid tokens. Holding a token is WASTING it. And collectively, the three tokens have just been wasted for 18 days.


Male Human Expert 1 Warrior 1

So my table is at a bit of a standstill, we had another PC death. This one was due to the dweomer lions. The Dweomer Lions have DR 10 cold iron and magic. They also have the ability to cast anti magic field. The party’s only real damage dealer is a summoner. For a couple of rounds the party pretty much just tried to beat on the lions, but with the exception of one charge, they were rarely able to do enough damage to overcome the DR. Within the field, all of their magical gear is turned off.

Anyways, a couple of full attacks latter the summoner is dead and inside the anti magic field, preventing a breath of life.

I suggested bull rushing him out of it, or trying diplomacy. But no one seems to want to take any actions. How hard should I push to get them moving again?


Season of Ghosts

A quick peek at your Gameplay shows that the last player post (early this morning) does have a proposed plan of action. I'd give them notice that if you don't hear otherwise or get any other player posts by <X> time then you'll roll them along with that plan - which might include some botting on your part. As best as I can tell it seems like a sound plan and unless whoever takes the lead on diplomacy totally botches the roll I'd let them take the downed PC and retreat.

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MichaelCullen wrote:
How hard should I push to get them moving again?

Pretty hard. We move on to part 2 in less than 20 hours; if they haven't cast breath of life by that time, then it'll be too late.

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I need to claim a back up for Oct 20 - 22. I am going to Scarefest in Asheville and my internet connection is gonna suck

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GM Granta wrote:
We move on to part 2 in less than 20 hours; if they haven't cast breath of life by that time, then it'll be too late.

Oops! I didn't realize that it was after midnight when I posted. We have a day longer than that.

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whew!
Was getting worried there. My table is having some trouble with the bearded devil, though I expect that the tables will turn soon, if only from sheer action economy.

Anok fell in the initial attack, bleeding and almost dying. Even he is actually back in the fight now after a channel!

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GM Eddv wrote:
I need to claim a back up for Oct 20 - 22. I am going to Scarefest in Asheville and my internet connection is gonna suck

I got you covered!

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nightdeath wrote:
GM Eddv wrote:
I need to claim a back up for Oct 20 - 22. I am going to Scarefest in Asheville and my internet connection is gonna suck
I got you covered!

@Nightdeath: Please remember to mark the backup calendar (link at top of campaign), whenever you cover somebody--or if you will be unavailable at all.

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Chronicle Sheets GM Busy At Work........

Backup calender done.

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Rusthenge || Spell Templates | Starship Roles | ◆◇↺

Question about influencing the Orc leaders: Can a given PC interact with more than one leader? Once they have gotten tokens from one (or failed to do so), can they then move on to another, or are they each only allowed to influence one?

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GM Dennis wrote:
Question about influencing the Orc leaders: Can a given PC interact with more than one leader? Once they have gotten tokens from one (or failed to do so), can they then move on to another, or are they each only allowed to influence one?

We had this similar question in part one.

GM Silbeg wrote:

I read this a little different, just that they have two checks per chieftain. I introduced all the orcs and their tribes, with a "rumor" of what they were looking for.

introductory post

Then the pcs were allowed to go talk to whomever they like, letting them guess a bit on skills. I told them they could roll a "naked" d20 and I would fill in the blanks. Seems to be working pretty good, hope GM Qwerty likes how I did it (as I am a backup)

I think the players have been doing fantastic at this.

FYI this is sort of how I did it at GenCon, as it wa sort of suggested we do to expedite the encounter.

At Paizo Con when I played it, our GM had us go talk as a group, and then we chose our roll on what we found out

I've found this works really well considering that time is pressing here.


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Dennis, they can interact with all of them if you have time.

Hmm

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He/Him
GM Hmm wrote:

Dennis, they can interact with all of them if you have time.

Hmm

Thanks! Once they've each tried once I'll open up what's left to everyone else.


Knowledge | GSC | Mummy's Mask | WftC | RotR$ | Carrion Crown

I could use a cover for Oct 23-25. I'm going in for a minor surgery tomorrow, but I expect between scheduling and anesthesia, I'll be useless for a few days.

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Got you covered Fuzzfoot.

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