In this campaign, I think the disguise kit is a worthwhile party investment. I'm happy to chip in towards one.
I'm also fine with a bandana/hood/scarf method of concealment, though it's not without risks. Unique weapons, clothes, armor, etc all pose a risk.
A disguise kit weighs 8 lbs, which is an issue for Lubella (and likely for others). We would therefore put on the disguises before leaving the Long Roads Coffee House.
I'm assuming that a disguise kit for medium-sized characters can also be used for small characters (it's noted that a disguise kit for small characters weighs less).
Lubella has a very distinctive fighting style, but there's not much she can do about that.
Would the Newt Market be a place that one might be able to buy a disguise kit?
Yes, the Newt would likely have one.
Don't forget about the sleeping draught!
Lubella has paid 25 GP towards the Disguise Kit for now. Arcos doesn't need it, so I don't know if he should be expected to contribute.
Oh, I forgot to comment specifically on the Tagit - but yes Newt would have it. If the 90gp price is correct, it is a bit pricey but definitely available.
Also, I am off work today for Memorial Day in the US, so will have some time to get us started on the actual operation . My kids are out of school for the summer, so I am watching them today. I cannot remember if I asked if any of you live in countries other than the US.
Anyway, I hope I gave enough background on the Salt Works. If I missed an answer let me know here. If you have new questions or actions, post those in the game.
Do we want to spend the money for the Oil of Tagit? It would be 22.5 GP each. It's going to be difficult to use, I think, but Lubella will chip in her share if others want it.
Re: Oil of Tagit - Vendalfek could potentially pour it into their drinks/water barrel while invisible, so I would say go for it. For the disguise kit, who is the other contributor? Just want to make sure that I mark off the appropriate amount from my money.
OK, Lubella has spent 22.5 GP towards the Oil of Tagit.
No one else has contributed any money for the Disguise Kit yet; I'm just hoping that Lubella doesn't have to pay the entire cost.
I will pay the rest then.
GM Aarvid: I'm in Vancouver, Canada. We had our holiday a week ago — the May Two-Four long weekend, otherwise known as the unofficial start of summer. :)
I live in the Netherlands, no bank holiday here.
Good to know.
I have been to Vancouver twice (for a cruise layover both times) but never the Netherlands.
Talvek is the best person to climb the gate: he can see in the dark, and he can use both Panache and Inspiration on his climb check.
Lubella has +3 climb if she takes her armor off, but she can't see in the dark. She also is going to have more trouble opening the gate (-1 strength modifier).
The alternative to going in at 4am or so would be to wait until the first predawn light (about 6am, I would guess). The risk would be that the day shift might start waking up about that time.
Once combat starts, Lubella is going to start with non-lethal. One good non-lethal hit should minimize the chances of killing that individual with subsequent lethal damage . Once the guards are unconscious, they can be stabilized and tied up.
Sorry I've been awol for the weekend. I see we decided to buy the disguise kit and oil of taggit. I can chip in for both. How much do I owe?
16 gp for the Disguise Kit
22.5 for the Oil of Tagit
38.5 gp total
Talvek gets 8 gp back. Lubella is also reimbursed 8 gp.
Lubella can help with Aldren's disguise (I think). I'm not sure how that works exactly — whether it counts as an aid on the check, or if she can make the check for someone else. With the kit, she can take 10 for 19 total.
My idea is that we may want to look into the outbuilding, before we go through the door into the main building. We have to be careful not to make noise, or show light, so we don't alert the guards.
Once we open the door to the main building, Lubella is going to try to get a non-lethal hit on each guard, leaving everyone else free to do lethal damage without too much risk of killing their targets. With her Battle Dance, her attack bonus is pretty high (+8), so she still has an OK chance of hitting with non-lethal attacks.
One thing you each may want to consider is posting a set of "bot" instructions for combats if you are unable to post in the 24-hour span from when your turn arises. This can help things moving.
Also, on Friday we will be driving to Florida for a week with my family. I should be able to post most days, but will be limited to phone so posts will be short.
Hey all. I'm getting caught up on my campaigns now but wanted to pop in on the discussion thread and apologize for being AWOL this last week. Long story short, I'm having less and less downtime at work lately as I've been getting additional responsibilities and projects. When I get home, it's time to take care of the toddler and then I'm too wiped out to post much. That said, I'm cutting back on some other campaigns I'm in but would like to continue with this one if you'll still have me. I do apologize and will endeavor to do better.
~Aldren/Snow
Hey no worries, it happens. I will be driving starting tomorrow, so I will probably have to slow the pace to maybe a post every other day for the next week. Good luck with the job and toddler. They both come first. :)
Sorry for the delay. Spent day at beach yesterday and family reunion today. Should get post tonight's or tomorrow
Traveling today after visiting my mother in Florida. May not be able to post until Saturday evening
All, I'm very sorry. We had to say goodbye to our dog last Wednesday. We've had him longer than we've been married and in many ways he was our first child. It hit me really hard. That said, short of a bus hitting one of us, I have trouble seeing how much more could fall on me at this point so posting should be back to normal now.
Oh no! I am very sorry to hear about your dog. Definitely can be very hard to lose a pet after so many years and memories.
GM Aarvid, I have a rules question though, technically, I guess it's a house rules question. It doesn't apply to this fight (since everyone is using non-lethal damage) but will likely apply in the future...
When a mook is dropped below 0 hp, do you consider them dead or unconscious? In many of the campaigns I'm in, it seems like GMs just treat them as effectively dead for the sake of simplicity (to the point its the actual rule in Starfinder). BUT, I realize technically NPCs should bleed out just like everyone else. I ask in reference primarily to channeling of positive energy around fallen foes, but, now that I think about it, also the utility of the bleed spell.
Thanks!
@Aldren: My condolences about your dog. It must be a difficult time.
Thanks. It's getting better because we know it was the right time to say goodbye (he could no longer walk, even with our help, and couldn't go to the bathroom, which would have eventually been toxic/poisonous to him), but he was the first dog I had to make the decision for. Our 2.5 y/o son keeps us on our toes, but the house still feels a bit empty in the mornings and at night.
Regarding the mooks, as you observe, in this case most of them have NL damage, so a channel would revive them. If lethal damage is used and they drop, generally I will consider them dead after bleeding out.
I normally don't roll for them to stabilize (assuming they fail each round)...so generally they are dead-dead after a couple rounds but not immediately at 0hp. I know it is not precise, but there are times when the BBEG could revive them, so I allow them a couple rounds of grace before they are effectively eliminated. As you stated, bleed and also selective channeling can come into play or mitigate.
Primary/named combatants (like the dwarf in this case) I would track bleeding and allow them to recover.
Thanks. That makes total sense to me and is pretty much how I handle it in my own games, but thought I should ask.
My suspicion is that the dwarf could be higher than 2nd lvl. (:
Does Arcos have a spell that could help Aldren out?
Yup. It was a gamble but I think that's right.
Note that the entanglement from the tanglefoot bag goes away after 2d4 rounds.
Yes, but this may be over before then. :)
My impression was that you only stop moving on a failed Acrobatics check when you are trying to move through an enemy's space. Perhaps I'm misreading the text.
In addition, you can move through a threatened square without provoking an attack of opportunity from an enemy by using Acrobatics. When moving in this way, you move at half speed. You can move at full speed by increasing the DC of the check by 10. You cannot use Acrobatics to move past foes if your speed is reduced due to carrying a medium or heavy load or wearing medium or heavy armor. If an ability allows you to move at full speed under such conditions, you can use Acrobatics to move past foes. You can use Acrobatics in this way while prone, but doing so requires a full-round action to move 5 feet, and the DC is increased by 5. If you attempt to move through an enemy's space and fail the check, you lose the move action and provoke an attack of opportunity.
You are right - I did not realize you could move through their space and read that as 'threatened' space. Good to know for future reference.
Hey all, I'll be camping without much, if any signal. Please bot me if I'm playing in a game, or if I'm GMing, just sit tight for a few days until I'm back.
On the flip-side, now that you've got a nice reservoir of non-lethal damage, maybe you can switch to lethal?
Lubella has already done so. Time to stop the racket!
Kewl!
Lubella wants to get all of the sleeping/unconscious guards into the same spot, making sure that none of them are bleeding out, and that they're all tied up. We also want to shut the doors and gate.
Then it's time to find and release the prisoners.
We could consider healing the guards before we leave. That would offer them the option of covering up their failure by keeping the saltworks production going themselves, and not telling anyone right away. :)
LOL. Devious. Certainly willing to consider it before we leave.
Flight landed. Back home again. And should be able to get back to regular posting
You did pretty well for irregular posting!
Internet connection at hotel was better than usual fortunately.
I think we are making good progress. Probably about halfway thru this section. And only two weeks elapsed in game time. Will make the next rebellion rolls tomorrow in game (whenever we get there)
I'm trying to play Lubella as a paladin-like character (at least on the good-evil axis), without being obnoxious. I know redemption can be a controversial subject, but it is a central tenant of the faith of Sarenrae. She will advocate for her beliefs, but others shouldn't feel they have to go along with what she wants all the time. Lubella hopefully leads by example, not by dictating to everyone else.
Redemption doesn't preclude punishment (although she doesn't believe in punishment for it's own sake). In extreme cases, redemption would mean a better fate for the evildoers soul in the afterlife, not sparing their life.
Kossrani is a bit of an edge case. Given that Lubella offered him mercy several times and he refused, her religious doctrine would support redeeming him by the sword. She's trying to go the extra mile and give him a second chance, but her patience is limited. If it turns out that he has committed atrocities, she would support him facing justice (to the extent that justice is possible in a rebellion situation).
Lubella is more likely to give underlings the benefit of the doubt. Many of them may be just keeping teir head down, and going along with whatever the boss says.
Thanks, Lubella, and I hope you didn’t feel put on the spot by my IC posts. Aldren is clearly less-good/mercy inclined but I think it makes for an interesting tension and opportunity for RP down the road. OOC, I get it and have no objection or issue. But, yeah, IC Aldren thinks this is foolish and unnecessary. It is also completely in accord with what he expects of most followers of Sarenrae. It’ll probably only come to a head when he’s been personally wronged or is asked IC to hurt or kill someone who has harmed another.
It's all good; I expect some disagreement IC. I just want to make sure everyone is having fun.
Kossrani is definitely written as a hard headed, arrogant, stubborn and possibly unredeemable character.
In character I would expect tension between different faiths, and part of the reason I was against having a full paladin at the table. Rebels will have to make tough choices. Many in gray areas so different solutions will arise.