Kzrira Maiwith |
Auri - I think you have shorted yourself 1 first level spell. You should have 2 + CLW, you get all the cure spells as a bonus unless you have an archetype that restricts the Cure spells.
Amir Awad Hajjir |
Ugh! See? this is why Amir is going to wake up and say "I need lackeys because this shit is getting tired" and then I will work on getting a giant tank of an individual with lots of armor to just follow me around and muscle people for me. Leadership HERE I COME! "You! yes YOU! Stand there and let me flank!"
Kzrira Maiwith |
Trust me, you will fit in fine, our tank is . . . the little girl with a crossbow I think . . or is it the old man . . . or perhaps the naive guy who likes to sing. Hmmm, yeh, we have a tank problem.
My goal is to kill from a distance - if I could have seen these pugs from more than 30', they would have been down in a flash as I only needed a 8 to hit them.
EDIT - Hey Auri, perhaps you could invite Attalas to join us. He would make a nice tank. Come to think of it, this party is as opposite HoJ as it could possible be.
Aurichalcum |
LOL.
You know, as much as I hate creating a rod for my own back, I am wondering if Auri should be rebuilt as a straight cleric, as I suspect we might be in need of more healing capacity than the Oracle class provides (especially as a Flame Oracle). In essence it would be little change I suppose, he just wouldn't have as much offensive casty magics.
Happy to leave as is, just thinking party utility.
Thoughts?
Faelar Braegen |
I don't mind which way you go, but if it is offensive spells that worry you, we always have Karethas. I think the channel would be very useful, however as Amir said at the beginning, if we don't have something it means we have to work harder and just buy items to keep us alive (like my wand).
Hopefully if I can get an Agile Rapier, I will be able to be a semi-tank.
Amir Awad Hajjir |
Cheap until we have start buying alternate slotted magic items to fit em on your wriggly skin! You're a money trap in disguise! ;-p
I ran a game with a pseudodragon bard for a long long time. I saw some funny tricks if you ever want ideas :-P Gotta spread the love with all the crap my players did to me in that game.
Aurichalcum |
Meh, I guess I also have a disposition to not be a money hog. There's little purpose in getting weapons - as Tiny weapons backed with a 7 str are basically meaningless, and really when it comes to defensives, there's little availability for that gear either (no robes!) - as those are the big ticket items, its all about swanning around counting the coins and pretending he has a hoard... Tiny dragon, Tiny hoard.
Think he's a pretty cheap date - the massive self nerf of no arms and armour has to have SOME upside!
Kzrira Maiwith |
Tiny weapons can do nice damage. Check out my Lyrakien. She has a 27 Dex, which combined with Monk Flurry of Blows and Dervish Dance makes for a lot of damage from a very very small scimitar.
Kzrira Maiwith |
That is the fun thing with Dervish Dance feat. It lets you use dex instead of strength for the damage. Same thing with weapons with the Agile property.
Karethas ibn Faradin |
I like that we've all accepted the challenge of avoiding the standard roles. I agree that you shouldnt worry about changing your build. I had planned for Karethas is to go for utility, control, and summoning spells, so some direct damage won't hurt.
Karethas ibn Faradin |
I enjoy role playing Karethas' total aversion to being injured. He always wanted to be a hero, he just never thought that it would hurt.
Sheik Voodoo |
I enjoy role playing Karethas' total aversion to being injured. He always wanted to be a hero, he just never thought that it would hurt.
Far from anything pointy is a good place for the mage to be. One of my problems with trying for arcane trickster was that I kept trying to slip in for a flank and getting clobbered :P
Auri- it occurs to me that as a tiny creature you are going to take all kinds of AoOs getting into melee range. You might need to heavily invest in acrobatics and mobility.
Kzrira Maiwith |
I'm in the pit in the middle of the US known as Chicago. Not cold enough in the winter and too hot in the summer. If it were my choice I would have moved almost anywhere else - that was not hot and humid.
PirateDevon |
I am under the impression that my weather in the NW (Seattle Area) is similar to pretty big swathes of England as far as grey/rain but we might have better summers...maybe.
Chicago is...uhm yeah...I've only been there a few times and it was never..."awesome". :-)
Amir Awad Hajjir |
We get some pretty bad flooding here too most springs. Luckily all the trees hold most things in place. Occasionally someone is silly enough to build expensive homes on the sides of hills though and then we sorta wave at those as the drift away. Here the last couple of years the snow has caused some trouble too. It will be interesting to see what comes in the next few years.
Kzrira Maiwith |
I grew up in New Hampshire, coldest I recall there was -42F (-41C). Went skiing at -35F with 65mph (110kph) winds one time -- puts the wind chill at about -85F. That was a bit chilly. Fortunately the summers there were great. Which is why I find the weather, and lack of anything even vaguely resembling a hill, let alone a mountain, in Chicago incredibly depressing.
Faelar Braegen |
I am on the sea-front, so snow is extremely rare for me. We get a lot of wind and rain as I mentioned before and a hell load of sea mist. That gets a bit depressing, but we have small groups of tree's around that we call "woods" and an hour of travelling can take you to the middle of the countryside. So I guess I am quite lucky where I am.
You all know how it is though, you always want to be somewhere else.
Aurichalcum |
Yeah I was just out camping for 17 days, weather was pretty good - but some of the nights got a bit nippy as we move towards winter. Im out next weekend for a couple of days which should similarly be civilised, however I expect it to be very very wet :p
As the year rolls on to winter it will get ugly.
Kzrira Maiwith |
Just as a thought, I am looking forward on my character and was thinking about taking one level of Sorcerer (Destined or Giant Bloodline) Giant is Third Party so DM would have to decide. . Doing this would allow me to take Gravity Bow and something else as spells. It seems that for one level, having the ability to increase my bow damage by 1 size (1d8 --> 2d6 or 1d10 --> 2d8) would be a nice boost, especially if I had multi-shot, rapid shot, etc.
I will also take 2 or 4 levels of rogue and the rest sticking with fighter.
Initially, I saw the minor/major magic Rogue Talents. But realized that I would be spending 2 feats/talents for less that what I will get with 1 level of Sorcerer.
It would also allow me to use Wands and Scrolls, if Karethas has too many.
Let me know what you all think. Obviously this will not be for a few levels.
Shifty |
If you are going to stick with the ranged combat path, and are a fierce Crossbow addict, then stick with the Crossbowman Fighter.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/fighter/archetypes/paizo---fig hter-archetypes/crossbowman
MAYBE think about a Rogue dip if you want to pick up an extra D6 from the odd sneaky shot, but I dunno if I'd bother. Comes down to what you had in mind.
I'd be even less inclined to go Sorc, as you aren't going to get much mileage out of it, and your BAB will be that touch lower. Some ok spells (with a short duration) but the hassle of failing one because you are wearing armour? Nah. Just not worth it.
Kzrira Maiwith |
True - will have to consider it. Can Karethas make Potions of Gravity Bow? Not sure what the restrictions are on making potions.
I keep wondering about the crossbow/archer archetypes. Still have not figured whether I like them.
Sheik Voodoo |
I wouldn't waste my time with a dip into sorcerer. I think y'all are on par for damage output, you just don't have much defense (AC) and can't take the damage.
As for gravity bow, yes it could be a potion, but I personally think it is a rather dumb meta-gamed spell that only exists because enlarge person arbitrarily doesn't apply to ranged weapons. I would rather just house rule that enlarge person applies to ranged weapons.
Karethas ibn Faradin |
I'm not planning on getting potion brewing as a feat, but I can make a scroll of it and it lasts long enough that I could cast it on you if we know combat is eminent.
Edit Oops, didn't see that it was personal only
Kzrira Maiwith |
Yeh - I actually think there is a way around this issue. If I took a few levels of ranger, I would not lose any BAB and would get the same spells, perhaps not quite as many per day, but more than taking the Minor/Major Magic Rogue tricks.
It also fits in with my background and build much better.