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Shackled City (Pathfinder) - GM_Chris

Game Master Chris Shannon 719

This will be the Shackled City adventure path using the Pathfinder rule set. However, the existing deities (i.e. St. Cuthbert, Pelor, Wee Jas) will not be converted to similar Golarion gods.


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Shadow Lodge

Make sure you whip off your sunglasses.

"That's WHAT REALLY HAPPENED isn't it Miss Skie. Isn't it? You can admit it to us, we're all friends here. We understand. It's hard to be a gnome. Alone, lost in the big city. You did what you had to do. You didn't want to be alone anymore. So you lured them all outside. And then YOU LOCKED THE DOOR. Didn't you."

Picture Keanu Reeves in Devil's Advocate saying that line.


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
Balodek wrote:

Make sure you whip off your sunglasses.

"That's WHAT REALLY HAPPENED isn't it Miss Skie. Isn't it? You can admit it to us, we're all friends here. We understand. It's hard to be a gnome. Alone, lost in the big city. You did what you had to do. You didn't want to be alone anymore. So you lured them all outside. And then YOU LOCKED THE DOOR. Didn't you."

Bezactly. We'll cast daylight in a funnel as well, really put the spotlight to her.

Oh, she'll crack, she'll crack alright. We'll get the truth from her.


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

"Leave her alone!!"

"You want answers? You want the truth? It was ME! I did it, and I'd do it again!"


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)

...and the thin thread of sanity that previously held the party together... unravels


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class

...over a woman, of course.

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1
Finneas Glenn wrote:
Finneas stands sweating in the middle of the shop holding three masks while waiting for Glimmil to flirt with the shopkeeper.

Lol!!!!1!!!eleven!!!

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1

Ser Bregan--

Tag, ye be it.

Love,

Ravens.


Wait a second....

Vanished gnomes, a city filled with traps, babbling skulks, and a "Ceramic stage mask portraying the sad visage of an anguished gnome with rabbit ears"

The gnomes are splicers! The vanishing was really them turning into crazed skulks! Perhaps it finally all fell apart during a masquerade party, like in Bioshock.

Bioshock Splicer with bunny mask, lower center

They even sold Bioshock Bunny masks suitable for Halloween/ masquerade balls / splicer parties.

Shadow Lodge

I never would have made that connection, but thanks for making sure that every time I go into Jzadirune now I will be creeped right the hell out.


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

Hmmm. Maybe we need to keep that bunny mask. It may give Glimmil a circumstance bonus to his untrained Intimidate checks.

It also would look sharp if worn by Finneas.


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)
GM_Chris wrote:
...Tygot notices Glimmil's staring and quickly offers, "Or, I will give you this extraordinarily fine spoon for it all." He retrieves a key from his pocket and opens the case. He brings it out on a silk pillow. "Notice the interwoven knots, the detail. This is the finest spoon in all my shop."

No, no, NO! Don't tempt the Gnome like that!

hahahah!


Dyrant wrote:


EDIT: Look at me, looking to the skies, I'm asking St. Cuthbert for patience for I must endure such trials in Cauldron.

Maybe if Dryant's form of brigandry was more of a sociopathic con-man that people found charming and sympathetic as he robbed them blind, I could buy that ...

I'll just adblock the icon it and think back to the graphic of disapproving dryant. :)


Dyrant Maynor, the Pre-Sainted wrote:
Glimmil wrote:
I believe it's just 2 hours to scribe an inexpensive scroll.
Yerp.

@Dyrant. Now you know my frustration in the other game. I had the time and money for many more scrolls, but the one spell per day limit sucks. I'm choosing to trust in the intention of game mechanics balance at this point, but argh.


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

I've never played with a one-a-day limit? Is that written somewhere?

Typically before going to bed, depending on how early the party calls the day, I'd have a good routine going scribing whatever spell I still had left. Or, you can also wait to sleep, and use it first thing in the morning after resting before you pray/memorize again.

Although I've only played a caster with scribe scroll once in the past decade...

EDIT - Congrats Ravens. Sorry Jasper, although maybe Vishoon (a surprise to me!) will be a no-show?


|| Per +18 | Fort +13 Ref +8 Will +13 | BAB +12 | CMB +17 | CMD 29 || Init +7 Half-Orc (Smoking Eye) Oracle of Battle/Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/Rage Prophet/Chevalier 4/3/5/3

I don't remember the one a day limit, I'd have to look it up. I'm playing a wizard in a table game too, you'd think I know.

Finneas will use the whetstone since Glimmil offered. I'll need to pick one up myself.

It's all good, I'm surprised the bard made it in honestly. Have fun.

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1

Thanks, Ser Bregan...you really nailed it with your strong AGOT character. Well done. I'm somewhat surprised I made it and think if so many people hadn't dropped out, I wouldn't have.

I didn't like the Bard character much and think the Vishoon is just an odd choice. Meh. We'll see what happens.

Sorry Jasper Lind, another time. :(

Shadow Lodge

A Bard is a good mechanical choice.

I had a hard time with the typos and formatting of the bard, the halfling and the half-orc -- so if I was DM that would have likely ruled them out.

That's why I thought all of us were good on spots. I also thought Holbrecht and Valeska would be good on spots too.

I was convinced Ravens was in when he started to roleplay as quirky.


Glimmil wrote:
I've never played with a one-a-day limit? Is that written somewhere?

Scribing a scroll requires 1 day per 1,000 gp of the base price. Although an individual scroll might contain more than one spell, each spell must be scribed as a separate effort, meaning that no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day.

PRD

d20 PRD

Shadow Lodge

Hmph, I guess we never read that sentence before.

Looks like our tabletop group has house-ruled it then (I'm the primary DM so whatever I say goes anyway, LOL).

We specifically wanted to give elf PCs a bit of an advantage when they are only using 4 hours to rest each night.

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1
GM_Chris wrote:
Glimmil wrote:
I've never played with a one-a-day limit? Is that written somewhere?

Scribing a scroll requires 1 day per 1,000 gp of the base price. Although an individual scroll might contain more than one spell, each spell must be scribed as a separate effort, meaning that no more than 1 spell can be scribed in a day.

PRD

d20 PRD

I definitely agree with GM Chris and it's going to make Scribe Scroll much harder to use effectively.

Now, GM Chris, is there a way that you would feel comfortable about houseruling the Scribe Scroll feat?

Would any of the below be too unbalancing?

1) Allow more than 1 spell per day (up to 5?) up to 1000gp value?
2) Don't require that the spell be memorized (or expended if it is memorized) for the scribing process?
3) Other idea that you have?


Dm_Chris wrote:
A gentle zephyr causes leaves to rustle

"A zephyr? I waste it with my crossbow!"


Painlord wrote:
Now, GM Chris, is there a way that you would feel comfortable about houseruling the Scribe Scroll feat?

I'd be willing to try keeping with the 8 hour limit, but allow you to use all eight hours with the minimum of 2 hours (250 gp per two hours) per spell. So maximum sribing per day would be

- Four 1st or 2nd level spells
- Two 3rd levels spells and one 1st or 2nd level spell (because the 4th level spell will take you into the 4-6 hour slot)
- One 4th level spell and one 1st or 2nd level spell (because the 4th level spell will take you into the 4-6 hour slot)

Also, I'm fine with it not using the spell. The gold, especially at low levels, can be enough of a limiting factor. It will also avoid all the scheduling madness of adventuring in the morning so you can scribe any leftover spells at night, taking days off just to scribe, etc.


D30 wrote:
Dm_Chris wrote:
A gentle zephyr causes leaves to rustle
"A zephyr? I waste it with my crossbow!"

Those things are endangered!


Map v4

Too bad Mahrou the Sage is not in Greyhawk, he was a pro with scrolls. Could have showed Dryant how it is done.

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1
D30 wrote:
Too bad Mahrou the Sage is not in Greyhawk, he was a pro with scrolls. Could have showed Dryant how it is done.

Also, too bad he's dead and doesn't want to come back. :(

Though I swear I thought I saw him post recently...but that was my imagination, I'm sure.


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
GM_Chris wrote:

I'd be willing to try keeping with the 8 hour limit, but allow you to use all eight hours with the minimum of 2 hours (250 gp per two hours) per spell. So maximum sribing per day would be

- Four 1st or 2nd level spells
- Two 3rd levels spells and one 1st or 2nd level spell (because the 4th level spell will take you into the 4-6 hour slot)
- One 4th level spell and one 1st or 2nd level spell (because the 4th level spell will take you into the 4-6 hour slot)

Also, I'm fine with it not using the spell.

I think this is a nice way to do it. If it becomes abusive (though I'm not sure how...yet ;) ), you can review it.

Would the group be willing to work with me on a general sleeping/watch schedule wherein I could have the option to scribe when I need to?

Assume we are not sleeping in our rooms (like in an inn or whatever), but out in the wild, or in a dungeon, at Ghelve's, would this sort of watch and sleep schedule work for us? I assume that we casters need 8 hours rest with 1 hour to pray/commune/memorize/chant (I would need an additional 2 hours to scribe 1 scroll).

9pm to 8am

9-11 Finneas?
11-1 Glim?
1-3 Atol?
3-5 Silfr?
5-8 Dryant - (with time to scribe/pray)

Everyone should have at least 8 hours of sleep and 1 hour of 'free time' to do whatever.

Thoughts?


|| Per +18 | Fort +13 Ref +8 Will +13 | BAB +12 | CMB +17 | CMD 29 || Init +7 Half-Orc (Smoking Eye) Oracle of Battle/Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/Rage Prophet/Chevalier 4/3/5/3

Looks good to me. Keep in mind with my darkvision I may be better on a darker watch.

Also in Pathfinder any spells cast within 8 hours of regaining spells counts towards the next day's casting.


Swap Silfr & Finneas for his dark vision. Looks good, thanks for planning ahead.


Glimmil wrote:
Bleh, bad roll again!

Penny Arcade has a comic describing just this situation


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)

Works for me Dyrant. Good idea.

Also, can we get back to posting our status and initiative? I'm having trouble keeping up with the details. I keep losing track of who's gone and who hasn't and I'm having to do a lot of scrolling up to check. A lot of my support spells at this level are touch, so I have to know where folks are.

It also helps me keep track of who is wounded for healing purposes. No big deal, but it would save me some time. I'm looking at you Dyrant my nemesis!

Round 2, Initiative 4

Status:
AC: 13 HP: 9/9
Weapon Equipped = Cudgel
Channel Energy Left: 7/7
Resistant Touch Left: 8/8
Strength Surge Left: 6/8
Cleric Spells Remaining:
0) Guidance, Light, Stabilize
1) Bless, Bless, Command, Remove Fear

D30 wrote:
Penny Arcade has a comic describing just this situation

Good one!


Stats:
F14:R16:W16 (+2);K(Arc)23;K(Dun)12;K(Hist)16;K(Loc)22;K(Nat)22;K(Pln)27;K(Rel)22;Perc 25;SMot 20;Spllcft 26;UMD 18
Cuthbertist 15 - Bludgeoner First Class
Atol Lem wrote:

Also, can we get back to posting our status and initiative? I'm having trouble keeping up with the details. I keep losing track of who's gone and who hasn't and I'm having to do a lot of scrolling up to check. A lot of my support spells at this level are touch, so I have to know where folks are.

It also helps me keep track of who is wounded for healing purposes. No big deal, but it would save me some time. I'm looking at you Dyrant my nemesis!

Round 2, Initiative 4

Ah. Yes.

I will aspire to do better, Atol. I will do it at the beginning of combat however won't update too often unless things change as I post from phone.

I can definitely increase my rate of adding that.

Love,

Dyrant


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

Wow, I'm impressed you're posting from your phone so well (capitalization, punctuation, etc).

I tried it yesterday as I was stuck in meetings from 2-8pm, but I eventually gave up.

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1

Glim & Finneas = Are either of you google/AIM/Yahoo chatters?

Euan/Atol, Morgan/Silfr, & I are on and off during the day and I, for one, wouldn't mind being able to text and talk to you on the side.

If y'are and want to share, let's chat.

-Pain


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

I'm on AIM the most - I make my team use it at my company.

Glimmil on AIM:

s. e. c. o. n. d. s. p. a. n.

Without all the spaces and periods, of course. I AFK a lot so don't think I'm being a jerk. :)

Shadow Lodge

I'm on Google most of the time.

Spoiler:

barnes1977@gmail.com


Conspiring off the boards? But I'm god. I'm supposed to know everything!


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

Pain has told me much of your evil-doing.


Glimmil wrote:
Pain has told me much of your evil-doing.

I'd consider the source of that information and perhaps ask for references like Atol.


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1

I hunger for fresh baked cookies by the Elizalich now.


I want to see a Dryant vs leprechaun battle.

Shadow Lodge

My list of desires are now:

1. BAB
2. HD
3. ARMOR! Gah! It has obviously been too long since I've played a melee type.


Balodek wrote:

My list of desires are now:

1. BAB
2. HD
3. ARMOR! Gah! It has obviously been too long since I've played a melee type.

Dryant: Heart

Atol: Brain
Silfr: Courage

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1
D30 wrote:
Silfr: Courage

Courage? Really?

I'd say "youthful idealism", "spunk", or "viagra".


Dryant sure is taking a while to post...


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)
D30 wrote:
Dryant sure is taking a while to post...

He's too busy looking at the pretty lights his Detect Magic spell has wrought.

The Exchange

Male Humanoidish Yahoo 4/Painlord 6/Punk 2/Cleric of Happiness & Sunshine 1
Atol Lem wrote:
D30 wrote:
Dryant sure is taking a while to post...
He's too busy looking at the pretty lights his Detect Magic spell has wrought.

*sigh*

D30 just posted that note when I knocked him unconscious (for like the 8th time) DURING the PFS scenario that I was judging FOR HIM...he knew damn well I couldn't post..and why!

@#%!!@#%@!!

On a happier note, we just hit 1000 posts. Congrats GM Chris.


Male Human (Per +6 | Fort +16 Ref +11 Will +21 | AC 29 (f28/t15) | CMD 20)

Congrats Chris on 1000 posts!

Silfr wrote:
Silfr takes 6 damage. He started at 9+3 temp HP and will sacrifice points so not to lose synthesis. Ends at 5+1 temp.

If I channel energy do I heal just Silfr, just the synthesis, or both? Inquiring minds want to know. :D

Shadow Lodge

The three sections of the rules I found. This is an interesting question, as it seems to limit the usefulness of the eidolon.

The synthesist gains the eidolon’s hit points as temporary hit points. When these hit points reach 0, the eidolon is sent back to its home plane.

While fused, the synthesist counts as both his original type and as an outsider for any effect related to type, whichever is worse for the synthesist. Spells such as banishment or dismissal work normally on the eidolon, but the synthesist is unaffected. Neither the synthesist nor his eidolon can be targeted separately, as they are fused into one creature.

When temporary hit points are lost, they cannot be restored as real hit points can be, even by magic.

Relevant thread

Reply from James Jacobs

Looks like it's 100% up to GM on how it works.


The synthesist write up leaves a lot to the GM.

*edit*
It seems they want the eidolon's HP to stack onto the summoner and they appropriated the idea of temp hps to handle this.

The Eidolon's HP are gained as temps but it neglects to say how damage is taken or healed by them. It was probably intended that the eidolon's hp goes up and down rather than they go down and never are regained.

To answer Atol's question, since the synthesist is one creature they should not get to double healing from a CLW or surge. Probably.


M Steinneblin (Rock Gnome) Paladin 14/Cavalier 1
Dyrant wrote:
Seeing the drooling idiot, and then turning his head to look at Finneas doing nothing...

LOL.

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