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Second Darkness converted to PF with gestalt rogues.

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Sorry guys. I love the game but I just cannot catch up I'm so far behind after almost a month of 100 hour weeks.

I'm holding the game up too much so I must bow out

So sorry


OK, down to 4 people now, should we recruit back up to 6?

I'd prefer to get more padding since if we lose more people things get rough and we would have to stop till we got back to 4.

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

Sad to see Dwarfy go.

I say we recruit. Not only did we lose people, we lose the ones who tanked the hits with me. As of now, we are in a tight spot.


Half-Orc Brawler/Rogue 15 - HP: 169/169, AC: 35/T: 20/FF: 29 +Def.Arw. - INIT: +3, Percep: +20/27 <see in dark> F: +19/R: +19/W: +18 - CMB: +22 - CMD: 40, Speed: 30ft

Let's get a bard and watch him die repeatedly.

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A front line bard? Brilliant!

Best if a mime.

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

I will only accept a permadying bard if he maxes Perform(Death Dance)

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

Oi Buzzard, seeing as only two people showed interest in the frontline department, would you mind if I hit up some blokes from the forums to see if they want to try and submit something?


Feel free.

There is one that is changing from alchemist to barb, but it would seem odd having two identical builds. Then again, you could be the Wonder Twins.

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

I've checked her. To be honest, a Red Sonja expy would be funny but I find a lack of redness in her... Blonde Tina, maybe?


The build actually looks to be min-minned. Why the hell would you make dex your highest score on a greatsword wielding barbarian?

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

If it was a curve blade build, I'd see the appeal of a high dex/high AC barbarian.

With which I mean I'd see the appeal and despise it, as getting hit and hitting even harder is the truly path of the barbarian.


High AC barbarian really can't be done via dex terribly well. Better to be an armored hulk archetype.


Male Human (Taldan) Gestalt Cleric of Besmara / Rogue 8 | HP 27/67 | AC 24 (+2 vs Traps) T 17 FF 20 CMD 21 | F +12 R +14 (+2 vs Traps) W +13 | Init +4 | Perc +14 (+4 Traps) | Status: Bless (8r)

I, for one, like the "different" builds, if only for the novelty.


Large variance in levels of optimization makes things a bit rough on the GM.

If you cater to the high end, the low end is a grease stain. If you cater to the low end, the high end breezes through.


Half-Orc Brawler/Rogue 15 - HP: 169/169, AC: 35/T: 20/FF: 29 +Def.Arw. - INIT: +3, Percep: +20/27 <see in dark> F: +19/R: +19/W: +18 - CMB: +22 - CMD: 40, Speed: 30ft

I think grease stains liven up the place. Give it some atmosphere.

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Male Human Gestalt Bloodrager/Rogue 15 || HP: -57/140 (-50/200 w/rage), AC: 32 (29 w/rage [33 w/shield]) (FF: 29 T: 17)|| Init: +7, Fort: +23 (+28 w/rage) Ref: +17 Will: +16 (+19 w/rage) || Per: +21

This is a cool discussion thread. Id agree having wildly varying CharOp levels can be difficult. Not impossible to deal with, but unless you keep doing the same things over and over as a GM, you run short on ways to handle things.


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The new people will be introduced as prospectors on Devil's Elbow. You will also be from Riddleport (or at least have been spending some time there). You can decide if you started in a bigger group or not, but either way, you will be found backed into a corner by a bunch of Akatas and the party will arrive to help you fight your way out.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

One creepy witch with a mangy raccoon, reporting for duty.

I wrote Rags up last week with the Deception patron, that's the only part of the character that I'm second guessing.

I feel like Shadow might fit better with the idea of weaving skeins of darkness together to change reality along with the whole rope/string/rags/dreadlocks vibe that the tatterdemalion has going for it.


You can modify them up to when you start playing.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

I'll look at any changes tonight when I get home and have access to Herobuilder.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

I'll keep him the way he is, I like the raccoon.


Male Human Gestalt Bloodrager/Rogue 15 || HP: -57/140 (-50/200 w/rage), AC: 32 (29 w/rage [33 w/shield]) (FF: 29 T: 17)|| Init: +7, Fort: +23 (+28 w/rage) Ref: +17 Will: +16 (+19 w/rage) || Per: +21

What is a party without a Raccoon, really?


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

rabies free?

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

Mind you, Rags,wehave Kronug. We never were rabis free.


For people unfamiliar with my style of running these games.

Players roll init, which is what I treat as a form of checking in. I'd rather wait before combat starts to know if people are around, than to do it in the middle of combat. Hard to cooperate if you don't know who is present.

I roll enemy dice without modifiers (except initiative). I also modify enemies a lot, so looking stuff up with not be a whole lot of use to you. If you do look something up and actually try to argue with me, I will be saying goodbye to you from my game. I am willing to entertain rules disputes, but arguments about what critter numbers should be is a sure ticket out.

I expect a post a day from people on weekdays, with weekends being OK to slack some. If you are unable to keep that pace due to something, just warn me here. If you can't keep that most of the time, I can grab someone else. I like to keep things moving. If keeps don't keep moving they shed players like water off a duck's back.

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

Now, Smasho, take a moment to delight your eyes with Kronug's last and recent rolls.

Now compare them with Azrael's... that poor bastard is cursed.

Anyway, welcome to your first rushed combat!


Male Human Gestalt Bloodrager/Rogue 15 || HP: -57/140 (-50/200 w/rage), AC: 32 (29 w/rage [33 w/shield]) (FF: 29 T: 17)|| Init: +7, Fort: +23 (+28 w/rage) Ref: +17 Will: +16 (+19 w/rage) || Per: +21

Pure coincidence. Give it time, I'm sure things will even out. Folks who play pokemon say "The hax will always balance out" and I can agree to that. I'm sure Kronug and Azrael will switch someday, you just have to believe hard enough.


HP 76/110 AC 34 (38)/ T 19(23)/ FF 30/ F+15/ R+21/ W+15/CMD 18, Init +8, Perc +19, Arcane Pool 2/13, Ablative Barrier 4/50, Images 3/6

I'm going out of town for a couple of days... And will not be able to post at my normal pace.. Please bot me if necessary

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Given Thanksgiving this week in the YooEss, I'm curious if people want a game pause. I'm OK either way as I am not traveling.

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

As a heretical spaniard, I don't recognise any of your pagan rites. Only Crommash and New Crom's Eve are real festivities.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

I'll be posting


Half-Orc Brawler/Rogue 15 - HP: 169/169, AC: 35/T: 20/FF: 29 +Def.Arw. - INIT: +3, Percep: +20/27 <see in dark> F: +19/R: +19/W: +18 - CMB: +22 - CMD: 40, Speed: 30ft

I'm completely ungrateful, so you can count on me.

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Male Human Gestalt Bloodrager/Rogue 15 || HP: -57/140 (-50/200 w/rage), AC: 32 (29 w/rage [33 w/shield]) (FF: 29 T: 17)|| Init: +7, Fort: +23 (+28 w/rage) Ref: +17 Will: +16 (+19 w/rage) || Per: +21

I'll be at my Gran-grans house during the day, but I can post in the evening.

Edit: We have our thanksgiving "dinner" at 2 P.M.


Male Human Gestalt Bloodrager/Rogue 15 || HP: -57/140 (-50/200 w/rage), AC: 32 (29 w/rage [33 w/shield]) (FF: 29 T: 17)|| Init: +7, Fort: +23 (+28 w/rage) Ref: +17 Will: +16 (+19 w/rage) || Per: +21

Don't worry GM, I've got the monster description right here.


Dirty Commoner/2 || HP: 0/0, AC: 10 (10, active buff) (FF: 10 [10 w/active buff] T: 10) || Init: +0, Fort: +0 Ref: +0 Will: +0 || Per: +0

Alright, I'm confused. What time-table are we trying to get to? Travel during the day, or night?

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

As far as I know, we were trying to daydream because the swarm f$$~ed up our night and our eldritch manipulators needed some rest.

That said we can now return to our usual routine of daykilling and nightdreaming or we can maintain the reverse.

I vote daykilling, better accuracy and such. But if a friendly spellcaster casts light regularly on my killing tool, I can work at night too.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

We should stick to day exploration and night resting.


Half-Orc Brawler/Rogue 15 - HP: 169/169, AC: 35/T: 20/FF: 29 +Def.Arw. - INIT: +3, Percep: +20/27 <see in dark> F: +19/R: +19/W: +18 - CMB: +22 - CMD: 40, Speed: 30ft

I can keep the reverse schedule since I have Darkvision and monsters are active at night.

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Male Human Gestalt Bloodrager/Rogue 15 || HP: -57/140 (-50/200 w/rage), AC: 32 (29 w/rage [33 w/shield]) (FF: 29 T: 17)|| Init: +7, Fort: +23 (+28 w/rage) Ref: +17 Will: +16 (+19 w/rage) || Per: +21

Right. But unless the Darkvision half of the party can handle every encounter while the rest of us take a trip to sleepytime junction, I think a better plan would be for Marckus and the other nightvisioneers to take turns at watch.


HP 76/110 AC 34 (38)/ T 19(23)/ FF 30/ F+15/ R+21/ W+15/CMD 18, Init +8, Perc +19, Arcane Pool 2/13, Ablative Barrier 4/50, Images 3/6

Sorry... Not sure if I already posted this... I'm on vacation and can't post at my normal pace. Please bot me if necessary..


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

Will update my character tonight.

I suddenly wish my raccoon had the mauler archetype so I could boost its size to medium, cast Rage on it, then set it loose to terrorize the land.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

Improved Initiative, Accursed Hex, or Spell Penetration? Any opinions?


Not that I know anything (well actually I haven't read the other books yet, so I don't) but I rarely find a caster without both spell penetration feats to be overly useful at high level if they plan on affecting enemies. Given that drow do have innate SR, it might be worthy of your consideration.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

That was my initial line of thinking and I'll stick with Spell Penetration.

I'll probably pick up Accursed Hex at 7th.


Let me know when everyone is leveled up so I can continue the game.

Grand Lodge

Male Human(Kellid) ---- HP (98/126) RAGE HP(132/170) -- AC 24(22 or 19 Reckless) - T 14(11/8) - FF 22(20/17) -- F 14(18) - R 13- W 7 (10) -- CMD 28 -- Init +6 -- Perception +14 --Rage Rounds: 24/27 -- Rogue 11 // Barbarian(Invulnerable Rager) 11 -- FATIGUED [ ]
Temporary Effects:
21 NL damage

I am right now on it, will come back with new information.


Elf Witch/Rogue 10 - HP: 95/95, - AC:24/T:19/FF:19 - INIT: +11, Percep: +16 <darkvision,light sensitivity F:+7/R:+14/W:+11(+2enchants) - CMB:+6-CMD:23,Speed:30ft: Staff:10/10
Trash Panda - Raccoon Familiar:
HP: 47/47, - AC: 23/T: 14/FF: 21 - INIT:+2, Percep: +15 <low-light vision, scent F:+3/R:+9/W:+10 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 15, Speed: 20ft,Climb20ft

Rags and Trash are done I think.

Do we adjust ABP now, or when we go back to town?


HP 76/110 AC 34 (38)/ T 19(23)/ FF 30/ F+15/ R+21/ W+15/CMD 18, Init +8, Perc +19, Arcane Pool 2/13, Ablative Barrier 4/50, Images 3/6

Last day of vacation today. I'll get him Sileth done tonight or tomorrow


ABP is innate and adjusts with you, so go ahead and apply it.

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