Do you mean an Amulet of Natural Armor? You normally don't combine Mighty Fists with Natural Armor -- or at least not without paying a hefty surcharge for combining items!
@Einar I imagine it will have paid off well by then. Even if you end up selling it back, the added fire damage will be very useful in lots of battles between now and then.
I'm not sure if Geist could use it anyways. It requires activation.
It's my turn I know. I'll handle it now.
WB Crummock :D *Huggles*
And yeah I'll need a while to work out response to the whole thing. Re Spoilers.
I'm going to tamper with tower loot. Get ready to see little/no loot for a while, because I'm "saving up" loot for an item that the party will find useful.
I'm combining loot stashes, so to speak.
Belgarath the Sorcerer, Polgara the Sorceress - by David Eddings touches on the ramifications of immortality.
So does The Westlands Saga, The Dragon Mage Saga - by Katherine Kerr
hey Mort, if Einar 5 ft steps into the doorway can he hit the troll on the table with natural attacks?
Yes you can, No you can't.Even if you 5 fted you're still out of range.
Also YOU already used YOUR turn up, on the first troll. Only Hirah gets 2 turns because she hasn't taken the last one.
*Growls*
no, I meant next round,
I just couldn't tell if Einar should have 5 ft step back this round and then use a polearm on the troll next round, or if staying put and 5 ft stepping forward next round then attacking is the best idea.
OK, Mister Whiskers, do I attack and end the fight or do I step back?
Just thinking out loud, I have a head cold so it seems easier to talk it out.
Up to you. Its your scaled @rse =)
Just remember that you're running on 10 temp hp, so if I get you below 0 while raging, you're very much likely to end up dead =)
Oh. Get well soon :P
so at 32 not 22, I forget about the HP from rage, going to see what else happens or what people recommend...
If Einar wastes the opportunity Mr. Whiskers has given him to hold the door while having 50% miss chance from total concealment, he isn't going to be doing that any more. You can next round drink a potion without worrying about the Attack of Opportunity because they don't get one against someone with total concealment.
If your HP total was wrong, it caused me to use up tactics too soon.
It is 20% of his 1st level spells he just gave you so you could survive another full attack.
Don't be foolish! Take the opportunity to block the door AND heal.
Edit to add: They will know exactly what square you are in since your fists and jaws are still flaming.
OK, certainly not planning on wasting the opportunity, just trying to understand. If Einar steps away and drinks the potion, we save the spell but leave the door unblocked. If Mister Whiskers casts vanish we block the door and he drinks the potion.
That make sense, should Einar 5 ft step to the south east so he is beside the door but still covering it? Or should he stay where he is, or should he step into the doorway.
also cant he turn off the flame since it's not part of the rage? Or would it be better to keep them flaming for the AOO?
I believe I have his HP right at 22/32 with the rage, but if he takes the brunt of a particularly vicious attack that could put him 'dead' after the rage stops...
Also, thanks for the feedback, I do better talking about options like this! Still not used to combat as a group at med. to high levels
I think a lot of us aren't good at higher level play since we have less practice at it.
But don't fret about it too much.
Should you take an AOO, the vanish will break as per invis rules. But you CAN block the door while invisible, that's not a problem.
I'll just whack blindly(eating 50% concealment) at the square I can't go through because the troll will figure something is there, but has no idea what.
If my calculations aren't wrong, Einar is at 32/65 with rage on. His current HP is 22/55, because he did not factor in rage hp.
Einar - is there enough space in your character header to put your raging hp bar?
I thought the /55 was your rage hp actually.
I'm not the best at tactics, so I'll just tell you how I figured it.
I didn't think you could take another round of full attacks, thus the spell.
While Invisible you don't draw Attacks of Opportunity.
With a 50% miss chance, they hopefully only hit you twice at most. Hopefully you can heal more than they hit you for.
If you 5' step to the door it is virtually impossible for them to get past since it would be an acrobatics check against your CMD + 5. Trolls aren't known for being acrobats. On the other hand, it also blocks other players from getting to the trolls.
Staying where you are depends on how stupid these trolls are.
1. Really stupid: Try to move through the invisible Einar, fail, draw an AoO, then attack at the invisible Einar.
2. Stupid: Full attack the invisible Einar
3. Clever: Not sure. Maybe attempt to squeeze past you in the 5' square to attack something else?
Assuming you don't 5' step, others can come up on either side of the door and attack but I believe they may have to deal with cover. They aren't size large, so unlike the trolls they can fit in that 5' space you left.
If Crummock wanted to heal you, he can do up to 6 melee touch attacks on allies. I think he can manage to get past the total concealment if he flails around like that.
As Mort said, taking an AoO would break invisibility. If that happens, you potentially die. Not recommended.
Got to go, I've still got more convention preparations to do and need to get some sleep as well. I failed my will save, agreed to prepare a special AND another scenario. At least the other one was something I've done multiple times -- Wounded Wisp. Still need to draw maps for the special.
Edit to add:
I believe turning on or off the flaming property is a standard action.
A is going to happen lol. They really aren't the sharpest swords on the rack. That being said at Einar's current position, the troll needs to move 10 ft to get to Einar, so it can't full attack.
A is going to happen lol. They really aren't the sharpest swords on the rack. That being said at Einar's current position, the troll needs to move 10 ft to get to Einar, so it can't full attack.
is "A" the same as "1" or something else?
Yeah it is. My typo and bad.
mmmm soup....
So are we goin to RP healing up before we attack the boy and his dog or are we going to retcon it, assuming everyone is at full, and then attack the boy and his dog?
Just roll your clw charges and get moving. I'm sure Crummock doesnt mind. I changed it to stew. Think stew is more warming...mmmph.
Now please don't be eating that stew.
I'll roll it.
That better have been an out-of-character comment about the soup, though, or Crummock will definitely be gunning for Einar ;-)
I know you're greedy, but haven't you generally been fed enough?
Note:GM might play some food pranks(no mechanical effects involved) in the future :p
I'll roll it.
That better have been an out-of-character comment about the soup, though, or Crummock will definitely be gunning for Einar ;-)
Campbell's, a major soup marketer had an advertisement years ago where the marketing line was "Mmmmm, Soup" So I couldn't resist quoting.
But no, Einar may be a thug, but he's not a cannibal, well since he's not considered humanoid lets just say he doesn't eat sentient creatures. But that big-@$$ elk would have been alright...
Ever heard of the bigger the animal, the tougher the meat? Being a glutton myself, yes I definitely know the temptation of a nice pot of stew/soup lying unattended on the table...its like there's almost a sign there, saying, "Eat me!"
Again, I'm having a bowl of lobster broth ramen now =)
Turns out the vanish was a wasted spell anyways. Glad that first batch of trolls is dead.
Over the weekend someone will have to bot me. Here are some general ideas what to do, but someone will need to track resources consumed.
Acid Splash is still the go to spell if it looks like everything is going well. Focus on trolls that Einar hasn't attacked that round so they don't heal.
Disrupt Undead takes the place of Acid Splash against undead.
Glitterdust on anything invisible or large groups. Have scrolls of See Invisible if we've no idea where the creature might be.
Use Grease spell slots to do area control.
Molten Orb is for ice creatures that are a big threat. Better have a clear shot, because his ranged touch attack isn't so good and the spell causes splatter.
Magic Missile is great for finishing off a badly hurt opponent. Vanish was meant for in case I needed to use Burning Hands -- Mr. Whiskers doesn't like to be too close to the melee. Using it the way I did on Einar works too.
Should try to talk to Granny first, see if she is in the mood to just leave. There are nicer areas and she can just disappear.
I don't foresee it working, but it would be nice to talk the dragon into abandoning it's duty. Point out what happened to Auburphex. Point out how the queen has slowly been replacing creatures with mirror men and other things that can't disobey. They even have a statue at the Pale Tower glorifying how they slew a dragon. How long before she sees the dragon as something she can't control and needs to take care of?
The biggest reason I don't see this working is Einar is too greedy to pass up a dragon horde.
The scrolls of Resist Energy were for the dragon fight. I scribed six of them, Mr. Whiskers gets one of his own scrolls.
Okie boss. But you're right about Einar :P Not too sure about Granny - because there's some not very nice evidence downstairs on what's going on.
Out of curiosity, wouldn't buying a scroll of communal resist energy be cheaper then scribing 6 scrolls of resist energy?
Okie boss. But you're right about Einar :P
wow, all this fuss about wanting to get paid ...Einar walks away mumbling something about contacting the 'murderhobo union rep'...
I'm going to bed now
Okie boss. But you're right about Einar :P Not too sure about Granny - because there's some not very nice evidence downstairs on what's going on.
Out of curiosity, wouldn't buying a scroll of communal resist energy be cheaper then scribing 6 scrolls of resist energy?
Evidence would change how much he would try to talk to her. If stuff makes him feel she is a irredeemable evil witch, burn her!
Re: scrolls, yes it probably would have been. I can't do third level spells yet so I hadn't considered that. :(
Slip had everything below 13600gp. You could've just...bought a spell off him. Or for that matter request for casting services from Solveig, then use it to make a scroll, heh.
Crummock did the request for casting services, and got it.
My night posting(after 6pm at+8 GMT) will get considerably slower the whole of next week due to class.
Just roll your clw charges and get moving...
I'll roll it...
So may I assume we are all back at full HP and we will work the charges off the wand later?
Roll them in game to determune charges used.
:( I missed my gameplay post
Sorry, was trying to keep things moving. You're now up.
Its ok, I'm not that upset by it, since its usually fine (like when I was @ wedding), and you didn't know that due to the recent disaster in NZ, I'm working the unusual Saturday to handle Civil Defense.
Acted.
I'm an idiot, I forgot that Einar has 10 ft reach when he is large, I could have been raging and reaching over Geist the whole time instead of using the polearm...
I'm going to blame having a cold...
*cough*
Well Einar, that *is* what I expected you to do ;-)
Thats why I moved Mr Whiskers out of the way. If you don't pay attention, it really isn't my fault :p
I, like Crummock, am going to bed! If the troll dog lasts maybe Einar can move in the room and whack him on the head,
Next time you're wounded, please roll your own heals before each encounter(if I tell you to heal up). I suspect Crummock saw your hp at full, so he didn't bother to heal you.
I don't blame him. If I'm holding the wand I always tell people to update their hp, which sometimes they do, sometimes they dont...
Eh I'm cool taking things slow and easy for a bit so Crummock can finish talking to the kids, since Mr Whiskers is still at the convention.
Sorry Crummock. Last night I was feeling a little off colour, so I took an early night off.
Also, I edited gameplay post a bit.
I'm sitting typing that Einar needed healed and I started thinking about the cost of wands. Are we setting aside a percentage for consumables or are we letting the casters eat the cost? Or what? Should Einar buy his own CLW wand for Crummock to use?
Hmmmm he could buy and 'infernal healing' wand to use himself...
Speaking of infernal healing, I haven't officially purchased a 'spell pouch' GM Mort do you mind if I 'retcon' doing that?
I have been setting aside a fraction of the total party loot for the purchase of healing wands.
Other status removal stuff, though, I have *not* been doing as group purchases - that said, we have been keeping what we find (and I have bought a few things for personal use).
Infernal Healing is definitely more cost-effective than CLW, but beyond a certain point, is not time-effective, when you consider that, say, if you take 40 points of damage, it takes four minutes to heal all of that...
Yeah go ahead on spell pouch. I'm not here to screw players over.
Though you don't really need to, per se.
Eschew Materials
At 4th level, the bloodrager gains Eschew Materials as a bonus feat.
My thoughts about group healing is that it should be set aside as a percentage for consumables. But I'm a GM, not a player..so technically I really shouldn't stick my long pokey nose in.
When I was playing cleric, in ROTR, I actually footed the bill myself. And also paid for conditional removal stuff out of my own WBL. Which honestly wasn't fair to me, but I felt a good aligned character shouldn't be so petty. Again, you have magic vestment and greater magic weapon so you don't really care even if you don't get enchanted gear.
I changed my mind after the halfling fighter decided to run into black tentacles to wack some baddies. There was totally NO NEED for that, since we could have sniped them from range/hit them with reach from the non black tentacled side.
Again people will say its in the name of RP so...what the hell. There's always some joker in the group who will do what they want(like Leeroy Jenkins into a group of ghouls when everyone is readying attack actions with reach weapons for the ghouls approach).
Sorry for delay, dialogue takes a while to work out. And good catch on the typo.
crud, I was hoping I dropped the troll, figures the toughest one was the chicken that went out the window to get the old ladies help...
hey Mort did the bugbear have an axe? Might be fun to carry a bugbear axe for a trophy, he can keep the ogrehook if not...
Also headed to work be back on in a couple.