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It is hilarious, and also a little disturbing. Might be the huuuuge sword. Or the codpiece. Seriously. It's bulging and has studs on it. And something that looks a lot like a piercing is dangling underneath. Makes you wonder whether that's part of the armour.
Oddly everything you note as disturbing I find to be a positive thing. :)
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Time to put this topic down.I agree!
I found it to be a funny card cause a made up person is dressed up as another made up person! HAHA!
ROFL...
wait..santa claus isn't real?
*runs off and cries*
Santa is magic. If you think he's real he's real. The magic goes away for grownups because they don't think he's real.
How's that? I have kids and I'm practicing. Allready in kindergarten some kid told my son "the REAL Santa Claus is dead."
And James, Sarah, you hear this? Folks are pretty much Begging me to write an art order featuring Seltyiel with his shirt off. See, not for me. For the readers.On the beach! With Harsk applying the suntan lotion!
The problem with dwarf beefcake: that beard covers already a lot. Unless of course one would go for some kind of Lady Godiva scenario...(there wasn't that "Oh God make it stop" flag option yet?)
Is male dwarven beefcake "beardcake"?
"beardcake"?
Gross.
Santa is magic. If you think he's real he's real. The magic goes away for grownups because they don't think he's real. I have kids and I'm practicing.
Dude, just tell 'em it's fun to pretend. When I caught my folks red-handed, breaking out gifts and putting them under the tree, I thought "Why have they been lying to me about Santa all this time? And what else are they lying about?" I never believed another word they said. The experience made me a really cynical bastard at a young age.
Is male dwarven beefcake "beardcake"?
No, 'beardcake' is kind of a dwarven equivalent of 'lembas' but not nearly as palatable.
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Santa is magic. If you think he's real he's real. The magic goes away for grownups because they don't think he's real. I have kids and I'm practicing.Dude, just tell 'em it's fun to pretend. When I caught my folks red-handed, breaking out gifts and putting them under the tree, I thought "Why have they been lying to me about Santa all this time? And what else are they lying about?" I never believed another word they said. The experience made me a really cynical bastard at a young age.
It's okay to lie. They're your parents.
You'll understand one day.I've forgiven a gazillion of those wrongs...
Dude, just tell 'em it's fun to pretend. When I caught my folks red-handed, breaking out gifts and putting them under the tree, I thought "Why have they been lying to me about Santa all this time? And what else are they lying about?" I never believed another word they said. The experience made me a really cynical bastard at a young age.
My grandmother, bless her soul, ruined the magic for me over dinner one evening with an offhanded comment that Santa wasn't real. I had an emotional collapse and ran up to my room bawling my eyes out. My dad tried to calm me down later, and unfortunately ended up destroying the magic of the easter bunny and tooth fairy at the same time.
It's somewhat sad and funny in retrospect now, because I remember the facepalm and expression on his face when he realized that he'd compounded things even more. I was a very sheltered little boy.
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Santa is magic. If you think he's real he's real. The magic goes away for grownups because they don't think he's real. I have kids and I'm practicing.Dude, just tell 'em it's fun to pretend. When I caught my folks red-handed, breaking out gifts and putting them under the tree, I thought "Why have they been lying to me about Santa all this time? And what else are they lying about?" I never believed another word they said. The experience made me a really cynical bastard at a young age.It's okay to lie. They're your parents.
You'll understand one day.
I've forgiven a gazillion of those wrongs...
A better way to say Santa Claus is real and admit he doesn't exist is to say that Santa is more of a feeling of generosity and sharing that is encouraged by people during the holiday. Kinda like the wind; there, but only seen through those affected. The image of the jolly old fat man is more of a personification(although the whole physical imagery of an intangible concept may be a little over their heads, so feel free to leave that part out).
That's my poor attempt at being nice for today. I need to stop now before I go over my quota.
Would it be wrong if I went onto that blog and said "Hi I'm Kevin Mack welcome to earth."
Seriously I decided to do a little test since this thing is supposed to be so offensive to females I asked several of my female relatives (9 in all) to have a look at it. None of them found it offensive one actually commented with "Oh please you see more skin on the front cover of the daily star."
Actually, I think the real test would be to draw Seoni as a black man and see if anybody complains. My guess is that they wouldn't, unless they thought that the arrangement of the legs made him look gay.
Of course that D7 blog guy would probably complain about cultural imperialism or some such. Especially if I drew him -- he'd say "That's just another White Male with the priviledge of holding a giant candy cane."
Why White Males are allowed to hold giant candy canes but White Females Who May Or May Not Be Elves are not, is a mystery to me. But I think normal people wouldn't complain.
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Yes the Seoni as an advocate of Christmas is cheesecake Calender Girl stuff. It would have been better with Seoni giving some little Goblins a Pony carved from wood..."no child on the naughty list"... from the ethical highground.
If you're going that route, why not have Mersiel carving a pony for the goblins, as the elf in santa-Seoni's workshop?
Oddly everything you note as disturbing I find to be a positive thing. :)It is hilarious, and also a little disturbing. Might be the huuuuge sword. Or the codpiece. Seriously. It's bulging and has studs on it. And something that looks a lot like a piercing is dangling underneath. Makes you wonder whether that's part of the armour.
Get out of here. The overswords are overdone. And it's screaming "I'm compensating."
And that ring piece? Depening on what it is attached to, it can lead to very serious incidents. It's an invitation to rogues to sneak attack you.
But I guess it's just to hang the armour on the wall to dry or something. Still weird design.
Is male dwarven beefcake "beardcake"?
No, it's "dwarven".
A better way to say Santa Claus is real and admit he doesn't exist is to say that Santa is more of a feeling of generosity and sharing that is encouraged by people during the holiday. Kinda like the wind; there, but only seen through those affected. The image of the jolly old fat man is more of a personification(although the whole physical imagery of an intangible concept may be a little over their heads, so feel free to leave that part out).That's my poor attempt at being nice for today. I need to stop now before I go over my quota.
Depending on how old the little critters are, you might want to leave everything out.
I'd think the whole anthropomorphic personification thing is for advanced studies.
Hm... maybe give them Discworld to read first! ;-)
It would have been better with Seoni giving some little Goblins a Pony carved from wood...
And then the pony's belly bursts open with a swarm of celestial avenger beetles and obliterates the plague before it can become a real threat?
What?
The more posts I read, the more SAN I lose.
"Be this where the 'dwarven beardcake' auditions at? Dey is? Cue da music ..."
*begins stripping*
"Heck, it be after beating work as an NPC red-shirt, eh?"
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My son was a bit upset that we lied to him but we quickly pointed out that it was now his turn to start lying about Santa to his little sister.
That's what happened to me when I caught them red-handed assembling some G.I. Joe toy at midnight on our hearth. I think they were relieved, and asked for my help putting the toy together for my little brother.
I can't remember how long I kept the secret, though.
All right, this one's for the ladies. And some of the men, too.
Is it work-safe?
It is just as work-safe as the Seoni pinup. Same pose, even. :)
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I think my corneas fused... lol j/k
I think I'm going to be sick.....
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"At least ya got a Santa wid a beard, yuh bunch of dwarf-hatin', smooth-palmed, beardless Paizonian gits."
He's kinda lilywhite, though.
It's winter. :P
Are you from the Gamer Den?"At least ya got a Santa wid a beard, yuh bunch of dwarf-hatin', smooth-palmed, beardless Paizonian gits."All right, this one's for the ladies. And some of the men, too.
"Why ... you ... sputter ... fume!"
Oh yeah; I'm in Texas with the highest per capita population of tanning beds in the world, so....
Tanning beds in Texas? Sounds like somebody managed to sell fridges to the Eskimos finally.
Stefan
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Well, since you ARE still posting on this topic, although evidently not over at d7, I'll repost the questions I asked you over there:
What role do you think that our culture’s repetitive use of certain representations of women’s and men’s bodies have in promoting various eating and body image disorders (anorexia, bulimia, muscle dysmorphia, steroid use and others)? If so, does that [belief] play a role in your company’s art orders; if not, should it?
I'll post over there soon enough. I can justify a Ghostwalk doodle on company time, I can't justify posting over there on company time.
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All right, this one's for the ladies. And some of the men, too.
Well, since you ARE still posting on this topic, although evidently not over at d7, I'll repost the questions I asked you over there:
What role do you think that our culture’s repetitive use of certain representations of women’s and men’s bodies have in promoting various eating and body image disorders (anorexia, bulimia, muscle dysmorphia, steroid use and others)? If so, does that [belief] play a role in your company’s art orders; if not, should it?
While I agree that eating and body image disorders are a very real problem, we can't let that govern our art orders. Being overly sensitive and politically correct can be just as damaging as the other end of the extreme, and as a result what I try to do when writing or approving art orders is to try to stay between those two extremes and let common sense and good taste be my guide. And on top of that, I listen to customer feedback via letters, phone calls, email, messageboard posts, and the like, and take that feedback and use it to constantly educate myself about what is and isn't in good taste. It's a constantly evolving process, and it's not perfect, but it's better than either extreme.
And for the record, I don't think that Christmas Seoni is "bad" or sexist or anything of the sort. I think Paizo's done a great job at being open-minded and getting all sorts of genders, races, sexual orientations, beliefs, and all that good stuff out there in a non-discriminatory way. In other words, the only thing I discriminate against is bad writing, I guess.
That, and dwarves. Although Sean's Santa Harsk DOES have a bit more style than most dwarves, I must admit!
The only question I have is, how is he keeping the crossbow and axe on his back?
...maybe I shouldn't ask that question.
Back hair weave.