PF Shackled City SCAP
Game Master Freddy Honeycutt

KenderKin wrote:

The locks require the key from both the inside and the outside.

"How does that work?"

The key hole opens to both the inside and the outside of the door the lock is built into the door, it is designed so that the lock can be engaged or disengaged only with the key, but from either side of the door.

It is designed to keep potential runaway orphans in and keep others out at the same time!

Any answer?

Any answer?

You suspect that he could re-create a key w/o too much trouble, assuming he does not keep a copy or does not have a master key.

Minniwick Zookwinkle wrote:

KenderKin wrote:

The locks require the key from both the inside and the outside.

"How does that work?"

The key hole opens to both the inside and the outside of the door the lock is built into the door, it is designed so that the lock can be engaged or disengaged only with the key, but from either side of the door.

It is designed to keep potential runaway orphans in and keep others out at the same time!

** spoiler omitted **

"I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying the you had to have someone on the outside and the inside at the same time, each with a key, to open the door."

Sanstree wrote:

Erine Wintyle wrote:

"The locks are the key..." Erine murmurs. "How familiar is this Ghelve with your locks?"

"Sounds like he could maka key even if she lost tha one she has!"

Erine rolls her eyes. "Yes, obviously. I'm wondering whether he would need these locks to make keys for them, or if he has some sort of blueprint."

"If he keeps his the blueprints of his work and records of where he installed them he would not need the key to make a new one". For a moment he puts his hand on the side of his face while tapping his temple with one finger, "or it would be easy to just keep a key and mark it with the house or business name so you could make copies in the future. Lot's of ways to do it. I guess we could just go to his shop and ask."

Erine starts speaking in an odd, babbling, halting tongue.

Erine starts speaking in an odd, babbling, halting tongue.

** spoiler omitted **
"Wait, no..."
** spoiler omitted **

"Does Keygan Ghelve have a store-front here in Cauldron?"

"Hmm, I've heard of locksmiths that are also members of the Thieves Guild, how can you trust anyone these days. Mind you, you never know if there's a bit of coercion going on, threats and stuff. It was always the officers that dealt with stuff like that, but I guess now I'll have to step up. Let's be visiting this guy."

With very little instruction you quickly find

A small turret dominates the facade of this two-story black stone building. Iron bars are embedded in the thick window frames. Beyond the turret's ground-floor windows sits a lovely display of locks, from large to small, simple to complex. To the left of the turret, above a heavy oak door, swings a simple sign that reads “GHELVE'S LOCKS”.

Looking in the window around lunch time you see

Two padded chairs flank a hearth containing a small yet lively fire. The fireplace's carved mantle bears a tinderbox, a small vase of dried smoking leaves, and a finely wrought collection of pipes. A burgundy strip of carpet leads from the entrance to the wall across from it, where dozens - perhaps hundreds - of keys hang from tiny hooks. The keys come in all shapes and sizes. A handsomely engraved mahogany counter stretches along one wall. Behind it hangs a red curtain that neatly hides the rest of the store.

Broccan looks around the area, wondering if anyone has been following them.

Perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (6) + 5 = 11

Looking into the window Minniwick asks no one in particular, "Could it be that literal?" After tying up bubbles he goes inside.

Looking into the window Minniwick asks no one in particular, "Could it be that literal?" After tying up bubbles he goes inside.

"Yes...'beyond the curtain'. Don't let the locksmith see we suspect, though."

"Huh, 'ere ye go. Jus' foll' th' riddle 'n order, mebbe. Figger outta line, leads t' th' next line."

Edrukk will go in, as well, and browse the merchandise on display, but he will let someone else do the talking.

Wow, you guys are busy! 23 posts since I last looked!

Canvy, seeing several of the group go inside, stays outside and crosses to the other side of the road, as though nothing to do with the people who just entered the shop. He watches them go in and watches them through the window. He spends most of his time trying to be unobtrusive and watchful, for others coming in or out of the shop, or acting suspiciously.

Stealth 1d20 - 4 ⇒ (13) - 4 = 9
Perception 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6

"Huh, 'ere ye go. Jus' foll' th' riddle 'n order, mebbe. Figger outta line, leads t' th' next line."

Edrukk will go in, as well, and browse the merchandise on display, but he will let someone else do the talking.

Wow, you guys are busy! 23 posts since I last looked!

Edrukk

Does anyone want to create a map that shows the stops made in the city thus far?

I think it would help tremendously to see that
gate, temple, orphanage, locksmiths on the map!

(note the temple would be labeled as St. Cuthbert on the map rather than as the temple you visited)....

Edrukk Thorvirgun wrote:

"Huh, 'ere ye go. Jus' foll' th' riddle 'n order, mebbe. Figger outta line, leads t' th' next line."

Edrukk will go in, as well, and browse the merchandise on display, but he will let someone else do the talking.

Wow, you guys are busy! 23 posts since I last looked!

Edrukk

** spoiler omitted **

Does anyone want to create a map that shows the stops made in the city thus far?

I think it would help tremendously to see that
gate, temple, orphanage, locksmiths on the map!

(note the temple would be labeled as St. Cuthbert on the map rather than as the temple you visited)....

DM KK:

Link to Current Map
White=Lucky Monkey Gate
Purple=Key Shop
Blue=Orphanage
Red=Church

Looking through the windows into the store

MW

You also notice that the shop is locked with three locks set in the iron bound door and sturdy bars covered with shutters are over the windows...

As the bell tolls for one o'clock a 6 foot tall man approaches he has short salt and pepper hair, a neatly trimmed mustache and goatee, bushy eyebrows, a creased face and graven frown....

He carries a ring of keys and a toolbelt.

perception
DC 10

Perception 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 2 = 4

Edrukk is apparently admiring the merchandise through the windows rather than within the showroom...

Man, what man?

Preception 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (17) + 9 = 26

"Good afternoon sir, I hope you had a good lunch." Minniwick then just waits by the door for him to open up shop for the afternoon.

"Always good to have business waitin at ones door I always say"

He uses three different keys to unlock his sturdy shop door

"What can I do yah for this afternoon?"
He pushes the door open...

"After you...
He offers gratiously...

From across the road Canvy watches as Minniwick enters the store.

After the man steps inside, Broccan whispers to the rest of the group. "If this fella's shady, 'e migh'try t'skip ou' th'back. I thin' I shou' make sure 'e don'."

Broccan circles around the back of the building, looking for a back or side door. If he finds one, he will wait and watch it for anyone who might try to leave through it. He also looks for signs of anyone following the group.

Perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (6) + 5 = 11

Edrukk will accompany Minniwick into the store, but letting the gnome do the talking.

Sanstree quickly opts to follow Broccan to keep him out of any trouble

"Yer not fer gettin intah trouble by yerself then."

Canvy

Minniwick & Edrukk

Looking over his locks for a few minutes, making small talk about the day and likening this model, that design and what would be a good lock to secure a travelling donkey cart.

After some haggling over a lock or two. Slip this in as part of a haggle but keep a good eye on his reaction.

"I do like your locks but I am a bit concerned about something I heard. You made the locks at the Lantern Street Orphanage. Do not know if I could pay full price for goods. Whoever took them kids got past doors secured with your locks. What kind of discount does that get you?"

Perception 1d20 + 9 ⇒ (11) + 9 = 20

If he gets upset Minniwick is very apologetic and plays it off in his best old Gnome act, "just asking, You can not blame a Gnome for asking about quality. I did not mean any harm"

"I feel sorry for that, it is a horrible thing..."

The shop keeper looks at his feet.

"I feel sorry for that, it is a horrible thing..."

The shop keeper looks at his feet.

Sense Motive 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (13) + 2 = 15 Ah 'ope yer more socially adept 'an Ah 'm, potion-maker!

Sense Motive: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (12) + 2 = 14
Erine peers at the locksmith.

The locksmith seems honest in his sorrow for the kidnappings.

Sense Motive/perception
greater than 12

15 or more

20 or more

The locksmith seems honest in his sorrow for the kidnappings.

Sense Motive/perception
greater than 12
** spoiler omitted **

15 or more
** spoiler omitted **

20 or more
** spoiler omitted **

Can I make a perception check in addition to the Sense Motive, or what? If I can: 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (13) + 2 = 15

KenderKin wrote:

The locksmith seems honest in his sorrow for the kidnappings.

Sense Motive/perception
greater than 12
** spoiler omitted **

15 or more
** spoiler omitted **

20 or more
** spoiler omitted **

Can I make a perception check in addition to the Sense Motive, or what? If I can: 1d20+2

sure!

Canvy moves on from his position, leaving the rest of the group to look after themselves, he takes the next turning. He checks that he is not being followed, by looking back around the corner as he turns. Once out of sight of the half-elves he jogs around the block so that he doubles back of himself, taking a position, behind the half-elves on the way back from where they came. Canvy was never one to like being followed or spied upon.

Away til Monday now...have fun

Broccan stands ready in the alley behind the shop, resting his javelin across his shoulder. He turns to Sanstree.

"So watcha think, boy-o? Will we be seein' this chap runnin' out'inna bit?"

Broccan chuckles quietly. He continues to scan the area for trouble as he chats with his friend.

Edrukk looks toward the back of the shop to see who the gnome is signalling, but he tries to do so surreptitiously.

Perception 1d20 + 2 ⇒ (18) + 2 = 20

Stealth 1d20 - 3 ⇒ (16) - 3 = 13 This should be good!

"Aye, 'tis a shame. Mebbe ye c'n 'elp us 'n figurin' out 'ow someone got past yer locks, eh?"

Broccan stands ready in the alley behind the shop, resting his javelin across his shoulder. He turns to Sanstree.

"So watcha think, boy-o? Will we be seein' this chap runnin' out'inna bit?"

Broccan chuckles quietly. He continues to scan the area for trouble as he chats with his friend.

"Broc me friend We ave not seen ner heard a thing. What if our friends were caught in tha color spray spell an are in need o rescue, I think we should go around to the front"

Canvy

Perception/sense motive
DC 0-14

DC 15

"Broc me friend We ave not seen ner heard a thing. What if our friends were caught in tha color spray spell an are in need o rescue, I think we should go around to the front"

Broccan sighs, then shrugs.

"If ye say so, I'm no expert on'is sort o' thing."

Assuming Sanstree moves back to the front of the store, Broccan follows.

"Jus thinkin o Canvy an tha spell...."

Broccan and Sanstree
you arrive at the front of the shop and look through the windows, the shopkeeper is speaking to the others...you see no sign of Canvy....

The gnome is nodding over his shoulder with his head, arching his eyebrows and winking!

Perception
DC 0-15

DC 16+

Perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (15) + 5 = 20

"Boy-o! Somethin' innaback'o the shop's got th' wee-fella spook'd. Less'go back 'round t'the back door. I'll bust'it an' you blast'em with th' magic colors."

"Back-door huh, good idea!"

perception
1d20 + 9 ⇒ (1) + 9 = 10

[b]"I think tha gnome is getting fresh with Erine!"[b]

Upon returning to the back of the shop, Broccan examines the door and lock. How sturdy is the door? Is it locked? Depending on the situation, Broccan may simply open the door, attempt to kick-it in, or if the door looks far too imposing, will consider other options.

Perception: 1d20 + 5 ⇒ (4) + 5 = 9 (if necessary)

Woo-hoo, the lousy rolls are back! LOL

The back door looks much like the first, heavy thick wood, with iron bands, one excellent lock bars the path.....

Sanstree pulls a scroll from among his things....

Casts knock on the lock......

Canvy wanders back to watch the shop and the surroundings from the other side of the road as before, feeling quite satisfied he's doing his job as far as protecting his friends is concerned.

"Thanks, boy-o," Broccan whispers as he get a firm grip on the door handle.

"Onn'e count'eh three, I'll open'it an' you blast'em...one...two...THREE!"

Broccan throws open the door, and side-steps out of Sanstree's way.