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rules say that armor spikes can be used as off-hand weapon. you would continue to use bastard sword in your hands as primary attack and then you would use spikes on your elbows, knees, shoulders and boots to slash and gouge and that would be your off-hand attack.Holy crud! That's one hell of a loophole in the system. I can't think of any particular reason that it wouldn't work, but if it does that makes it statistically superior to every other method of fighting out there.
I'm not complaining. I actually like to find and use these kinds of ideas, and generally i don't find them to be beneficial to the point of unbalancing the game.
If this is allowable, I'd recommend that Chops use it as well, maybe with a dwarven waraxe or something (anything that is appropriate that could be two-handed. Sized up Uturuks come to mind). I can see this style as being appropriate to Dornish, Dwarven or even Orcish culture, and it would be interesting to see Chops learn something like it from Eyvinder, or vice-versa.
That would not work with Chops, since he can not wear anything heavier than padded armor.
That would not work with Chops, since he can not wear anything heavier than padded armor.rules say that armor spikes can be used as off-hand weapon. you would continue to use bastard sword in your hands as primary attack and then you would use spikes on your elbows, knees, shoulders and boots to slash and gouge and that would be your off-hand attack.Holy crud! That's one hell of a loophole in the system. I can't think of any particular reason that it wouldn't work, but if it does that makes it statistically superior to every other method of fighting out there.
I'm not complaining. I actually like to find and use these kinds of ideas, and generally i don't find them to be beneficial to the point of unbalancing the game.
If this is allowable, I'd recommend that Chops use it as well, maybe with a dwarven waraxe or something (anything that is appropriate that could be two-handed. Sized up Uturuks come to mind). I can see this style as being appropriate to Dornish, Dwarven or even Orcish culture, and it would be interesting to see Chops learn something like it from Eyvinder, or vice-versa.
I think he was referring to Chops' unarmed attacks. That's what I was thinking of. If a character with armored spikes can knee an opponent while wielding a weapon two handed, I don't see why one with Improved Unarmed strike couldn't.
Perhaps I'll tweak it a bit. If Sorok is opened to little modification of his character, we can do something with it. I have this vision of Black Blood dwarf dark smith, scarred by the fires of his smithy, intimidating in his visage - but that is very different than what Sorok had in mind, so we'll just have to wait and see what he does with his background.
Pat's been working on his character, and it looks like the basic stuff is up on his sheet.
I think that the main problem with the idea of being a Smith is that he doesn't have the stats or the skill points for it. Craft is based on Int, and Barbarians with low Int don't have enough skill pints to throw around. Clan dwarves Favored Class is fighter, so he doesn't even get the bonus from that.
I think that the skills he's set on are Knowledge: Shadow (cause really, he should know) and Stealth. The rules are a little crippling to his concept. Maybe you have some suggestions on how to make it work?
Maybe we could get a couple Traits that give a +1 to Craft: Blacksmith and to Knowledge: Shadow and makes them class skills?
I think he was referring to Chops' unarmed attacks. That's what I was thinking of. If a character with armored spikes can knee an opponent while wielding a weapon two handed, I don't see why one with Improved Unarmed strike couldn't.
Exactly.
I have this vision of Black Blood dwarf dark smith, scarred by the fires of his smithy, intimidating in his visage
Also, (and this is purely selfish, I know), Ragnar is actually a weaponsmith, and a damn good one. (It's actually his highest skill). I don't mind someone else having the same skill, but I'd rather not have all my thunder stolen.
The Craft skills are a little odd, and vague. By RAW, you need separate skills to make plate or chain than you do to forge a sword, but someone who can forge a sword can also make a masterwork wooden club, or a leather whip. (Or armor spikes and spiked gauntlets, since they're technically weapons.) Someone who can make leather armor can also forge plate.
But neither an Armorsmith or a Weaponsmith can make a horse shoe.
Doesn't really make sense.
Would you allow someone with Weaponsmithing to take a penalty to do stuff with armor? (like ragnar repairing his bear-hide) or an Armorsmith to take a penalty to make appropriate weapons (Sorok forging an axe)
If that's ok, I think that there won't be any overlap issues.
So I decided to run along with Muni's Valkyr references a little, along with the help of some very acomodating dice. Enter Ilona's little 300 moment.
So I decided to run along with Muni's Valkyr references a little, along with the help of some very acomodating dice. Enter Ilona's little 300 moment.
I doubt all 9 of us will die! Maybe one or two.
I doubt all 9 of us will die! Maybe one or two.
I doubt all 9 of us will die! Maybe one or two.
I doubt all 9 of us will die! Maybe one or two.
We can take it. We just have to be smarter about it. getting everyone in a bottleneck within arms reach of the healer will be a good start.
Then the person with the highest AC goes total defense in the door while everyone else attacks from reach, or with ranged weapons. We should be able to whittle it down.
I haven't checked the thread yet so I can't wait to see what happens. I am a little bit nervous about everyones favorite half dwarf/orc.
Edit: Doh!
Then the person with the highest AC goes total defense in the door while everyone else attacks from reach, or with ranged weapons. We should be able to whittle it down.
Don't forget my axe ;P
So I'm sitting here at the Blood Bank getting my juice sucked out and thinking about this game (which i'm enjoying the hell out of, btw. Big, big kudos and thanks to everyone involved)
I'm a big music nerd, and I have this habit of making "soundtracks" to the games i'm in.
To me, Midnight has a very 'metal, goth-rock feel during combat scenes and a very sad, brooding, old instrumental feel during exploration and camp scenes.
With that in mind, I've been coming up with possible theme songs for characters and scenes that have already happened. Hope you enjoy the fruits of my boredom.
Opening Credits: The Beginning is the End is the Beginning by the Smashing Pumpkins
Eyvinder: The End Has Come by Ben Moody
Solvistania: The Fear by Within Temptation
Chops: Worlds Collide by Powerman 5000
Ilona Whisper by Evanescence
The rest will have to wait. The bag's about full.
I'd love anyone's input on appropriate songs for the cast.
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Hi, guys. I wasn't home this afternoon, so the game was stalled a bit. There is no need for panicking. Bear-rat is just a bit tougher than the mother-rat, whom you killed easily. You just weren't playing smart. You charged the creature, instead luring it to the doors, where there is no room for it to attack more than two of you at the same time. I would really hate for anyone of you to die here, but I'm not gonna pull my punches, so be smart now when it matters.
So that puts us at 2000 xp. If we're using the normal xp track, that's a level for us.
How are we handling it?
Hi, guys. I wasn't home this afternoon, so the game was stalled a bit. There is no need for panicking. Bear-rat is just a bit tougher than the mother-rat, whom you killed easily. You just weren't playing smart. You charged the creature, instead luring it to the doors, where there is no room for it to attack more than two of you at the same time. I would really hate for anyone of you to die here, but I'm not gonna pull my punches, so be smart now when it matters.
Hate to say it, but that is where some sort of map would help. I had no way of knowing that the door was any narrower than anything else. I thought we were all in a big chamber. Even something very basic.
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So that puts us at 2000 xp. If we're using the normal xp track, that's a level for us.How are we handling it?
You level up on your next rest. But since you just had one, and those dwarves are summoning something, and Zafina disappeared who knows where... By the way, rat busted Eyvindr's sword. You should take the pieces for reforging, I suppose.
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Hate to say it, but that is where some sort of map would help. I had no way of knowing that the door was any narrower than anything else. I thought we were all in a big chamber. Even something very basic.Hi, guys. I wasn't home this afternoon, so the game was stalled a bit. There is no need for panicking. Bear-rat is just a bit tougher than the mother-rat, whom you killed easily. You just weren't playing smart. You charged the creature, instead luring it to the doors, where there is no room for it to attack more than two of you at the same time. I would really hate for anyone of you to die here, but I'm not gonna pull my punches, so be smart now when it matters.
I am sorry, but no. As you've seen, I'm pretty open to everything else in the game, but I don't have the time or the talent to do maps. It would severely limit my posting time and I think that we do not want that. In essence, you can have the maps, or you can have me posting several times per day. Not both.
I am sorry, but no. As you've seen, I'm pretty open to everything else in the game, but I don't have the time or the talent to do maps. It would severely limit my posting time and I think that we do not want that. In essence, you can have the maps, or you can have me posting several times per day. Not both.Hate to say it, but that is where some sort of map would help. I had no way of knowing that the door was any narrower than anything else. I thought we were all in a big chamber. Even something very basic.Hi, guys. I wasn't home this afternoon, so the game was stalled a bit. There is no need for panicking. Bear-rat is just a bit tougher than the mother-rat, whom you killed easily. You just weren't playing smart. You charged the creature, instead luring it to the doors, where there is no room for it to attack more than two of you at the same time. I would really hate for anyone of you to die here, but I'm not gonna pull my punches, so be smart now when it matters.
I understand, but you said our tactics weren't smart and I responded. How were we supposed to know that the rat couldn't fit through the doors? I thought that they were double doors based on the description, and large creatures can get through those. I wasn't asking for a map, but I am just pointing out that sometimes tactics aren't going to be optimal without it.
Well, considering we had several people drop into negative hp, we would look for a place here to rest, maybe back at the entrance chamber where we rested before. BTW, what about Eyvindr, how do we get him healed up, since he is Fell?
Well, I was referring to charging alone, instead of working as a team. But I suppose that is to be expected without a map. I am sorry for that and I'll try to do better descriptions. And if something is unclear to you, ask for more details here. Will that work?
Cool. I thought about that, but didn't figure on getting dropped in one round. I knew that the others would be right on my tail. Maybe include in an ooc or spoiler could be dimensions of the room, size of doors, and such. I like how the narrative is going and think this is going to be an awesome campaign. I just fear that Eyvindr is now going to eat me to get his hit points back ;P
Ragnar, have you considered Summoner modified for Midnight as your next class, or do you want to go with straight channeler?
Channeler was my original thought, but I'm not familiar with the Summoner, so I don't know.
My plan was to pick up Necromancy with the bonus school from Channeler, most everything I want to be able to do will come from that, though I'll need the GM ok to bring in a few spells that aren't on the midnight spell list (summon undead, mainly)
After a few levels of channeler I was going to go Warrior Arcanist for two levels and then Syphon. The requirements are pretty strict, so I don't know how Summoner would fit into that.
For next level I'm going with Chaneller, Charismatic. In fact I've been plaaying up the inspirational qualitties so that the bardic abilities are a natural progression, will probably pick up another level or two of fighter then go Warrior Arcanist.
Ragnar, love the theme song. Read her background and see how appropriate it is. There's a lot more under there than she lets on.
I especially love -Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum. It's Latin for "Save us from danger, save us from evil".
And even though she isn't Dorn, although I have a feeling you two will happily adopt her as one, the Valkyr reference is inspiring me.
I will be sticking with Channeler, Hermetic, eventually branching into Wizard, and maybe Snow Witch, although getting the Endurance feat, given how I role play her, will be interesting, he he.
Dang, Great song for Solvi, Love it!
Dang, Great song for Solvi, Love it!
Ragnar, love the theme song. Read her background and see how appropriate it is. There's a lot more under there than she lets on.
Glad you two like the song choices, I actually spent quite a while digging through my music library to find ones I thought were appropriate.
There's more to come on that front too.
And even though she isn't Dorn, although I have a feeling you two will happily adopt her as one, the Valkyr reference is inspiring me.
*enters Muni mode*
Ah hell, she's a Dorn. She's just mechanically an Erenlander. Somewhere along the way some big old viking got frisky with on of those plains folk and diluted the linage a bit, but I know a friggin' Dorn when I see one. All she really needs is a winged hat and a metal mini-skirt.
*end Muni mode*
Hi everyone,
Following-up on my last post in the in-game thread...
I think Eyvindr should be considered dead/destroyed. His undead traits, combined with the power of the white bone items, has made him exceptionally powerful... but it has also given him significant weaknesses, including death/destruction at 0 hit points, and having to feast on the warm flesh of intelligent beings to regain hit points. In this last encounter, he dropped below 0 fair and square. He paid the price for his rash actions. That's fine by me... I don't want punches pulled to let the undead guy live on.
My other reason for preferring that he stay dead is an out-of-game reason. To be perfectly honest, I can't keep up with the posting rate. I came home tonight and found that I had to catch up on 50 posts in a 24-hour period. If for whatever reasons, I missed a day or two of posting, I could easily find myself having to catch up on 100+ posts. I think this speaks volumes to the quality and enthusiasm of the game, DM, and players... but I'm so busy with work and real life (including a real life Midnight campaign that I never seem to have enough time to prep for) that I just don't have time to keep up. I'm used to PbPs where I only need to catch up on 1-10 posts a day. That I am comfortable with.
So rather than slow the game down (whether with Eyvindr or another PC), I think that I should just bow out... and this is the perfect opportunity to do so...
Thanks for giving me the chance to play in such a top notch game! Good luck with the rest of the campaign -- should be awesome!
Nope I think it's a time and concept thing in one case, and a philosophical difference in the other. Don't take it personally, you're doing an amazing job.
Hi guys, before I get into the thread I was going to ask is there anything the group really needs? healing, skill monkey, a tank, looks like we have caster covered.
I'd like to play an Orc, just because when else do you get the chance to. Kiron is what I had made up so far.
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Hi guys, before I get into the thread I was going to ask is there anything the group really needs? healing, skill monkey, a tank, looks like we have caster covered.
I'd like to play an Orc, just because when else do you get the chance to. Kiron is what I had made up so far.
Hi, Kiron. Orc fighter is more than fine. I don't have a lot of time today, so feel free to talk with other players about party roles. I think that the party needs a tank and orc should fulfill that role rather nicely. Midnight is curious setting, though, so you should familiarize yourself with playing orc. I think that it will be challenging.
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To all old players:
Those of you who's covenant items haven't activated themselves will receive the powers when you level up.
We have a problem with Sky's and Eyvindr's items, though. I suppose that Ragnar will collect his brother's stuff, so he'll have two covenant items. There's one left from Sky. That means that Ragnar and one other player will be slightly more powerful than the rest of you. Do you have any suggestions how to deal with Sky's stuff? Does any of you want to take them?
For next level I'm going with Chaneller, Charismatic. In fact I've been plaaying up the inspirational qualitties so that the bardic abilities are a natural progression, will probably pick up another level or two of fighter then go Warrior Arcanist.
Ragnar, love the theme song. Read her background and see how appropriate it is. There's a lot more under there than she lets on.
I especially love -Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum. It's Latin for "Save us from danger, save us from evil".
And even though she isn't Dorn, although I have a feeling you two will happily adopt her as one, the Valkyr reference is inspiring me.
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Okay, covenant items:
spell of any school and level he can cast and gains +1 spell point.
Level 2 - Thick skin: The bonebearer gains +1 natural armor bonus.
Level 2 - Gifted: The bonebearer gains a feat of his choice.
Level 2 - Luck of a cat: Once per day the bonebearer may ignore the attack that would bring him below 1 hp.
Nope I think it's a time and concept thing in one case, and a philosophical difference in the other. Don't take it personally, you're doing an amazing job.
Seconded
To all old players:
Those of you who's covenant items haven't activated themselves will receive the powers when you level up.
We have a problem with Sky's and Eyvindr's items, though. I suppose that Ragnar will collect his brother's stuff, so he'll have two covenant items. There's one left from Sky. That means that Ragnar and one other player will be slightly more powerful than the rest of you. Do you have any suggestions how to deal with Sky's stuff? Does any of you want to take them?
Ragnar was going to have a scene actually talking with Sky I presume his spirit is still around) and then he was going to give Sky's bow to Solvistania. Seemed like the logical choice.
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Got it. Question though
Eventually when he starts making Undead, (permanent or temporarily summoned) those will be the souls he puts into the corpses. This means that sort of like the spirits used for normal summoning, they will always be the same group or undead, with names , personalities, quirks, ect.
Does this sound ok to you?
Hi, Kiron...Midnight is curious setting, though, so you should familiarize yourself with playing orc. I think that it will be challenging.
Here's a good place to start-
Nightflier's right. Orcs are probably the most well-documented, complicated race in all of Midnight. They have a lot of common cultural practices that can make playing them difficult, but incredibly interesting and deep. I have a player in my tabletop game who's been playing an Orc for about 5 years.
Here's some things to keep in mind-
They are natural linguists- their tongue is rich and expressive, if very aggressive. I imagine it sort of like Klingon. When they speak other languages, they tend to be surprisingly eloquent.
By the time an Orc is an adult, they have already killed at least one, more like 5-10 of their own kind. They are raised in terrifying conditions that make prefect soldiers. Think sort of like Startan training turned up to 11.
Orcs are Matriarchal, and the males outnumber the females as much as 20 to 1. Most Orcs will go their entire lives without ever getting laid. The greatest of their warriors are chosen to become consorts of the Mother-Wives for breeding. The rest have to hope they get their hands on some poor dwarf woman.
Orcs are cannibals. They believe that when a warrior dies, their soul goes to it's reward in the embrace of their god, and the body is just a shell of meat. That shell goes into the army cookpots, or just gets divided up among his squad-mates. Sometimes when an Orc becomes Fell, the rest of his unit doesn't even really notice. The only real difference is that Fell orcs tend to eat a little more.
Orcs are Zealots. You're going to have to have a very deep and personal reason for yours to have turned away from Izrador. This will likely be one of the most defining things about your character.
I look forward to hearing what you come up with. I love Midnight Orcs.
That's enough out of me.
Ragnar was going to have a scene actually talking with Sky I presume his spirit is still around) and then he was going to give Sky's bow to Solvistania. Seemed like the logical choice.To all old players:
Those of you who's covenant items haven't activated themselves will receive the powers when you level up.
We have a problem with Sky's and Eyvindr's items, though. I suppose that Ragnar will collect his brother's stuff, so he'll have two covenant items. There's one left from Sky. That means that Ragnar and one other player will be slightly more powerful than the rest of you. Do you have any suggestions how to deal with Sky's stuff? Does any of you want to take them?
Solvi is actually proficient in the bow, so that works for me. She would accept it gratefully, feeling a kindred spirit always with her when she carries it with her.
That definitely works. Oh and in regard to orcs, Ilona's initial greeting may be less than warm but I think its a great idea.
nightflier
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