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Game Master Megan Robertson

A game of Paizo's Kingmaker AP, with some of the best players it has been my pleasure to DM!
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Male Human Witch 5
Gorguk wrote:

As far as other ideas Barnabus, the spell Share Language I think would go a long way towards solving the problem of speaking with other creatures. The only problem is that it is a bard1, wiz/sorc2, druid2 spell. unless you have a good use magic device I don't know how you will cast it. We can always have Lothar cast it for you and supply him with 4 scrolls of it out of the party fund. Any other ideas for purchases from the party fund. Do we want to buy some more alchemist fire or acid splash vials? We have so much healing in the group now it seems that we won't need to buy any healing items from the fund. What are your thoughts on this?

If Megan allows, Barnabus could cast the spell and have Cal scribe it on to a scroll. If this is the case, I would love to purchase a couple of scrolls of enlarge person for Barnabus to cast on me at later times. This way he will have a freed up some spells and not worry about casting them on me. I don't know how many other people will want to be enlarged besides me.

You were exactly the individual I was thinking about using that spell on!


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Calinder Surital wrote:
Got Calinder updated. I'm still working on what the group has in the group possession pool.

Cal, I just realized that the items we collected from the bandit camp are itemized in Rhasa's profile. Here's what I had noted, if it helps you:

Spoiler:

Kressle's equipment: studded leather armor (cut for the female form), 2 masterwork handaxes, 4 daggers, 85 gp, and a potion bottle.

Bandit (how many?) gear: leather armor, longbow with 10 arrows, short sword, 10 gp.

The loot: 321 sp, 90 gp, a pair of silver earrings, a wooden music box, three crates of furs and hides, and a polished wooden case of potent greenish herbal liquor, eight bottles to be precise.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Barnabus: Once cal divides up the loot, if I have any gp left over after I finish paying Oleg, I will pay for the scribing of 3 scrolls of enlarge person. It hurts my AC but my combat options go way up. Hopefully this will allow you to have a different spell memorized instead of enlarge perosn all the time.

Andoran

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

Oleg has some parchment sheets, sufficient for 3 scrolls, if Calinder wants to get scribing... however, the scribe needs to know the spell, watching someone else cast it is insufficient.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)
Megan Robertson wrote:
Oleg has some parchment sheets, sufficient for 3 scrolls, if Calinder wants to get scribing... however, the scribe needs to know the spell, watching someone else cast it is insufficient.

Good to know, well so much for that idea.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5
Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:
Calinder Surital wrote:
Got Calinder updated. I'm still working on what the group has in the group possession pool.

Cal, I just realized that the items we collected from the bandit camp are itemized in Rhasa's profile. Here's what I had noted, if it helps you:

** spoiler omitted **

Excellent, thank you. I'll see if I can get it all put together later today and let everyone know what the totals are.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

Rhasa's original file that I was using to build her online information seems to have disappeared, so I will have to recreate it. The only thing she was really missing was the gear that was stored in her cart -- I never got it transferred into the online profile. Other than that, I believe she is ready to go.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Okay, I think I have the accounting pretty much done, as far as I can anyway. You can check it out on Cal's profile page. Also check the Notes spoiler to see if there is anything that I have missed that you think ought to be added.

The only question that I have in relation to treasure gained is with the bandits that were with Kressel. There were six, four died, so we have at least 4 times what they all had. One was let go to warn the Staglord, and he ran off to who knows where. Finlee accompanied us back to Oleg's. The question would be, did we allow the runner and Finlee to retain any of their possessions? Once I know that I can do a final update of our funds.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

The runner I would say no to since it was basically a death sentence to send him anyways. Finlee I say we confiscate his stuff but don't sell it unless reverts back to his old ways. Once he has redeemed himself enough, then we can give him back his gear so he can make an honest living as a hunter/trapper.

As far as the rest of the loot, I don't need any of that stuff. I would suggest keeping the liquor in case we need it and the potions. the crates of furs we could sell to Vekkel to start his business as long as Oleg doesn't think it would impede his trade business. Actually it might work out nice to have Oleg as a trade outpost and Vekkel to buy the raw goods.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

The runner had no gear when he left other than whatever armor he would have had. We never said we stripped them of their armor, so I presume he was still wearing it. His weapons were most definitely not in his possession.

Finlee's gear - that's up to the party. Rhasa sees no reason not to give it to him along with a warning that hostile actions on his part against the party will go very poorly for him.

I think the liquor could be an in when we finally approach the Stag Lord, so I agree we keep it. Likewise with the potions.

I agree with selling the furs to Vekkel with Oleg's approval. Or, to restate, Oleg should get first crack at purchasing the furs.

As an archer, Rhasa can never have too many arrows - and having an extra bow or two for the party is not a bad idea, especially when we can pack them in the cart. Rhasa wouldn't mind having one of the masterwork handaxes as a light/short range weapon, but their value will help pay for the cold iron implements we seek, so she's in favor of selling them. The other gear is of little interest to her.

Andoran

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

OK, so noted.

Dyfrig doesn't care if you take his weapons (he had a dagger and a rather battered-looking short sword) as long as you leave him his cooking utensils. He's adamant that he'd never use his chef knives in combat whatever the provocation!


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Okay. Got the new and improved totals on Cal's profile. Added another 50 gp for the 5 bandits. Four leather armor, 5 longbows, and 5 short swords. I didn't include Finlee's gear as we are holding that in "escrow" until such time as we return it, or judge that he is not going to straighten out his life and then we keep it.

Let me know if you think everything is accurate or now.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Calinder Surital wrote:

Okay. Got the new and improved totals on Cal's profile. Added another 50 gp for the 5 bandits. Four leather armor, 5 longbows, and 5 short swords. I didn't include Finlee's gear as we are holding that in "escrow" until such time as we return it, or judge that he is not going to straighten out his life and then we keep it.

Let me know if you think everything is accurate or now.

I trust your accounting. Next question: Are we selling the items or keeping them for the time being?


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Sell...Sell...Sell... Gorguk needs a new lance. Unless someone wants one of the items then keep those along with the alcohol and potions. What is the value of the crates of furs, the earrings and the music box? Has anyone done an appraise on them yet?


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

Selling one of the masterwork handaxes would pay for everyone's requested cold iron weapons and Gorguk's lance, I believe. I'd like to keep at least some of the arrows and a spare bow. I'd like a handaxe, too, but it will benefit the party too much to sell them.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Cal does need any of the equipment from the bandits so he's okay if it's sold to get more money for the party. But if someone wants something, such as a masterwork handaxe... Yes Rhasa, I'm looking at you, then by all means take it. ;-)


Male Half-elf Cleric 5
Calinder Surital wrote:
Cal does need any of the equipment from the bandits so he's okay if it's sold to get more money for the party. But if someone wants something, such as a masterwork handaxe... Yes Rhasa, I'm looking at you, then by all means take it. ;-)

Sorry, that was suppose to say that Cal doesn't need any of the bandits equipment. Can't type or edit lately. I think that I'll blame it on this dang cold I been fighting for the last week.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Calinder Surital wrote:
Calinder Surital wrote:
Cal does need any of the equipment from the bandits so he's okay if it's sold to get more money for the party. But if someone wants something, such as a masterwork handaxe... Yes Rhasa, I'm looking at you, then by all means take it. ;-)
Sorry, that was suppose to say that Cal doesn't need any of the bandits equipment. Can't type or edit lately. I think that I'll blame it on this dang cold I been fighting for the last week.

Funny - I must understand Cal-speak. I understood exactly what you meant. Rhasa will not turn down the handaxe if the others agree with you.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

If you can make use of it then go right ahead. We should decide how to divide any items that we find amongst ourselves. Do we figure the sell value of the item and who ever wants it gets that much less gp or do we just go in order of who gets the next choice at an item? For instance if we find an amulet of natural armor +1 and Lothar wants it, do we 'charge' him 1000gp of loot for him to acquire it? If not then make a list such as: Barnabus, Cal, Gorguk, Lothar, and Rhasa (alphabetical only for example) and Barnabus would have first chance at the amulet. If he does not want it then Cal would have a chance. If Cal took it then he would move to the bottom of the list. Any thoughts on this? If we do it this way, should 1 use items like potions count against you for choosing an item?


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

It reduces the party's "income", so yeah, I think "charging" the recipient makes a lot of sense. Taking turns could put one of us way ahead of the others for gear just by luck of the draw - not that I mind, but it's not as fair. I would propose taking the sell price, dividing it by the number of party members that would benefit from its sale and charging the recipient for the other members' shares. It doesn't make as much sense to "charge" Lothar 1000 gp for his amulet of natural armor because 200 gp of the selling price would normally go to him.

With that him in mind, would our accountant be so kind as to put a debt for fourth-fifths the selling price of a masterwork handaxe, a longbow (bandit equipment), and 50 arrows (bandit equipment) on Rhasa's account? Once I get my cash sorted out again (I haven't tried to fix my lost gear yet), I should be able pay it down somewhat by putting gold into the party fund.

EDIT: The purchase price for those items would be 383.5. The selling price would be 191.75. I'll figure 80% later if you don't beat me to it.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)
Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:

It reduces the party's "income", so yeah, I think "charging" the recipient makes a lot of sense. Taking turns could put one of us way ahead of the others for gear just by luck of the draw - not that I mind, but it's not as fair. I would propose taking the sell price, dividing it by the number of party members that would benefit from its sale and charging the recipient for the other members' shares. It doesn't make as much sense to "charge" Lothar 1000 gp for his amulet of natural armor because 200 gp of the selling price would normally go to him.

With that him in mind, would our accountant be so kind as to put a debt for fourth-fifths the selling price of a masterwork handaxe, a longbow (bandit equipment), and 50 arrows (bandit equipment) on Rhasa's account? Once I get my cash sorted out again (I haven't tried to fix my lost gear yet), I should be able pay it down somewhat by putting gold into the party fund.

EDIT: The purchase price for those items would be 383.5. The selling price would be 191.75. I'll figure 80% later if you don't beat me to it.

Your right about the 80% value being distributed. I was looking at the entire value of loot if we found multiple items. SO if we found 5000gp sell value of loot and Lothar wanted the amulet (1000gp) then that would just be his share and the rest would get 1000gp as well. Your way is correct if we find items that are worth more then the rest of the loot that can be divided.

80% of your goods equal 153.4gp


Male Half-elf Cleric 5
Rhasadilara Goldenbough wrote:

It reduces the party's "income", so yeah, I think "charging" the recipient makes a lot of sense. Taking turns could put one of us way ahead of the others for gear just by luck of the draw - not that I mind, but it's not as fair. I would propose taking the sell price, dividing it by the number of party members that would benefit from its sale and charging the recipient for the other members' shares. It doesn't make as much sense to "charge" Lothar 1000 gp for his amulet of natural armor because 200 gp of the selling price would normally go to him.

With that him in mind, would our accountant be so kind as to put a debt for fourth-fifths the selling price of a masterwork handaxe, a longbow (bandit equipment), and 50 arrows (bandit equipment) on Rhasa's account? Once I get my cash sorted out again (I haven't tried to fix my lost gear yet), I should be able pay it down somewhat by putting gold into the party fund.

EDIT: The purchase price for those items would be 383.5. The selling price would be 191.75. I'll figure 80% later if you don't beat me to it.

As soon as I get a chance, spent a good part of the weekend trying to get something done on my tax return. But I should get a moment in the next day or two.

Andoran

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

No need for extreme Papers and Paychecks-style accounting... unless you like that kind of fine detail, that is!

I once had a GM who was obsessive about such things - we were playing Aftermath and he once requested that everyone account for every single round of ammunition that the party had. About half-an-hour of frantic counting and listing followed... apart from the 2 vets in the group. We looked at each other, said (in perfect chorus), "One magazine in the weapon, spare in pocket, rest on truck" and went to make coffee.

As for me, if you want to go into detail, fine, but I don't insist on it. For normal incidentals, and even ordinary weapons and armour purchases, you'll probably have enough cash to buy what you want. If you start wanting unusual, exotic or really, really expensive stuff, I may ask you how you intend to fund your purchases!


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

I don't know about the rest of you, but I like the detail that comes with I only have 5 gp to my name and don't know where anymore is coming from. If it is ok with Cal, I would still prefer to have exact gold distributed. If he doesn't want to handle that, then I will figure out the party split for everyone.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

I don't mind keeping track for everyone, I've played scribe for many a campaign. If I get behind just give me a reminder, or a whack upside the head, whatever it takes to get my attention.

I've got a spreadsheet design that I put together a few years ago to track what the party has found, kept , and sold. I'll see if I can find it and make a few improvements and then get what we have entered in.

I have also added the following information to my profile:

"Rhasa: Has 153 gp and 4 sp worth of goods that she claimed from the bandits treasure."

I'll update this amount as soon as Rhasa can let me know how much gold she wants to apply to that amount.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Calinder Surital wrote:
I'll update this amount as soon as Rhasa can let me know how much gold she wants to apply to that amount.

After clearing up the issue with my gear, I see that I do not have a significant amount of gold left to apply to my debt, so what you have currently is fine. I'll make payments as we earn more.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Sounds great, I have also been the party treasurer before and don't mind. If you have a spreadsheet that makes everything easier. Thanks again Cal for doing all of that.

Andoran

Female Depemds on the game system (human in the real world)

All right, your wish is my command!!!! We'll run a tight ship on expenses and costs and stuff, then :)


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

An interesting development in another game makes me wonder if we want to post the inventory on a GoogleDocs spreadsheet. They've figured out how to post the image of the map into a spreadsheet and then move icons around on it, much as I did for our last combat, but I don't know how they did that.

But it's made for the numbers and such, so if Calinder wanted to post it publicly to reduce the "how much do I have" questions, that would be an option.

Oh, and Megan: Just because we opt to be anal about our finances doesn't mean you need to. I'd wager we'll be harder on ourselves than you would want to be, anyway -- you should not need to change what you do, right?


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Just posting the route we had discussed in the other thread here so that it's easier to find. We had decided on exploring these hexes in this order: E2, F2, G3, F3. And then see what we would like to do after that.

I was thinking today that this exploration phase reminds me of the beginning of the old D & D adventure, Keep on the Borderlands. You had to do a lot of exploring of the area around the keep to find out where the raids are coming from.


Male Human Witch 5

My Pc is a stickler for saving funds and will retrieve all arrows crossbow bolts and use mending upon them after any battle...

Pretty sure will have enough funds to purchase anything needed!

Not a big stickler on tracking items, numbers etc.

If DM wants to assume 50% rule that can work
as in we recover 1 out of every 2 arrows, slingstones, etc
that we forage for food 1 out of two days, and eat rations other days....
etc, etc,


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Any luck yet Cal on that spreadsheet for finances? I am jsut curious as to how much we all got so if need be we can buy potions from Bokken.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Sorry, I just haven't had a lot of free time at the moment. Hopefully I'll have time to get that put together soon.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Cal if it helps, I have totaled the value of the armor and weapons that we acquired from the bandits when we fought Kressel. I get a total of 1112.5gp. The sell value is then 556.25 split 5 ways we each get 111.25gp. This value does not include any of the goods that we found such as the earrings, furs, or music box. I don't have a value on those so I didn't include them in the values above. The liquor I thought we were keeping along with the potions.

Since I am taking the chain shirt, I will contribute 40 gp to the party fund. I currently only have (after selling the bandit loot above) 28.83gp.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Thanks, every little bit of information helps. I've got a start on it, but it's been a little slow going.

Been too wrapped up reading Towers of Midnight, it's been eating up most of my free time since i don't have the money to build my new rocket I've designed.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Do we sell the 2 horses then and use the remaining gold to purchase supplies, or do we sell all 4 horses and buy a pack animal for Dyfrig and upgrade to horses and cart later?


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)

There's something to be said for having a riding horse or two extra that we can rotate through if we have an extended ride. To avoid killing the mounts.

However, I think the amount of supplies we intend to purchase is probably a significant factor in this decision. What all are we planning to buy? Rhasa has no plans at the moment to purchase anything more just yet.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

The length of time spent away from the base would determine the amount of supplies needed and therefore what would be needed to pack all those supplies.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

I am thinking that for now, we shouldn't need more than 2 weeks worth until we are back at Oleg's. That way we can provide them with updated information and placesupply orders more regularly.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

Cal, any update on te loot we have so far. I think we still have the sell the loot from the spider's lair and the buried treasure cache?


Male Human Witch 5

Looks sheepish..... I honestly forgot what I ordered from Oleg....
I recall some cold iron stuff a morningstar and something else.....

Am I the only one? ;)


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Barnabus wrote:

Looks sheepish..... I honestly forgot what I ordered from Oleg....

I recall some cold iron stuff a morningstar and something else.....

Am I the only one? ;)

Nope - I'm planning to go back to check what I ended up ordering; I debated so much, I've forgotten the final decision. A spear, I believe... Glad to hear I'm not alone. ;)


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Barnabus wrote:

Looks sheepish..... I honestly forgot what I ordered from Oleg....

I recall some cold iron stuff a morningstar and something else.....

Am I the only one? ;)

Here you go, I found your order here.


Male Half-elf Cleric 5

Okay, at the bottom of Calinder's profile I have updated the section that show our supplies and party money pool. Thing's I have noted separately, like the 10 gp we each got from Svetlana for the radishes, aren't added to the pool or credit account because I didn't know how everyone wanted that handled, so let me know what you would like to do.

Also if there is anything there that I have missed please let me know here and I will add them in, also if there is anything that we've sold or traded that I don't have designated as such then also let me know. I don't have the number of spare horses at the moment, but as the last conversation about them seems to have ended with it might be better that we keep them, I figure that I have time to look it up.

Anyway here's what i used to come to the total that I posted on the main thread:

I showed that we currently had 98 gp and 321 sp in the party pool, 150 gp credit for the 3 crates of goods, 135 gp for the earrings after Oleg's 10 percent, 63 gp for the ring after Oleg's 10 percent (could turn out to be more), the 10 gp found at the spider's lair, and the 50 gp for the radishes that we just brought back if we pool that together.

That still leaves us with several items that I show we haven't done anything with:

All the bandit gear, and the other gear that we found at the spider's lair, and the three potions, one which still needs to be identified.

Hopefully that is all correct. Like I said, if I got anything wrong, just let me know.


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Calinder Surital wrote:

I don't have the number of spare horses at the moment, but as the last conversation about them seems to have ended with it might be better that we keep them, I figure that I have time to look it up.

...

Hopefully that is all correct. Like I said, if I got anything wrong, just let me know.

Per Megan here, there were four spare horses taken back from the bandit camp and left at Oleg's. No time to evaluate the rest of what you've done, but I appreciate you doing it.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

I thought we sold the bandit gear from the fight with Kressel. 111.25gp each for that loot. The rest sounds correct. As far as the loot from the spider's lair, unless someone wants it I say sell it as well. If we divide up the gp from the furs, jewelry, and cash, we each get 68 gp with 68gp going into the party fund. This value does not count the gear from the spider's lair. What ever amount that is I say just sell and place in party fund.

That should leave us with 4 horses , 3 potions, alcohol and 2 staglord necklaces that haven't been sold and kept by us. If this is okay, then Gorguk will be able to pay back his debt to the party for claiming the chainshirt.

I have already adjusted my profile accordingly, let me know if there is anything I need to change.


Male Vudran bard (magician) 2/ninja 3

I haven't bought anything yet because I haven't been tracking the amount of funds I have at my disposal. I only had the one gold that was left over from my initial purchases at the game's start. Aside from that, I've just been making do with picking up what I find along the course of the campaign if I think it suits my character's need.

And as far as the mine issue goes... If you guys think that's best, then fine I'll go along with it. But I'm being practical...sooner or later he's going to figure it when we start ordering supplies to help us tap the mine, unless we bypass him all together and go back to Restov. He doesn't have to be told now, only when we feel that we are ready to go about doing it.


Male Vudran bard (magician) 2/ninja 3
Gorguk wrote:

I thought we sold the bandit gear from the fight with Kressel. 111.25gp each for that loot. The rest sounds correct. As far as the loot from the spider's lair, unless someone wants it I say sell it as well. If we divide up the gp from the furs, jewelry, and cash, we each get 68 gp with 68gp going into the party fund. This value does not count the gear from the spider's lair. What ever amount that is I say just sell and place in party fund.

That should leave us with 4 horses , 3 potions, alcohol and 2 staglord necklaces that haven't been sold and kept by us. If this is okay, then Gorguk will be able to pay back his debt to the party for claiming the chainshirt.

I have already adjusted my profile accordingly, let me know if there is anything I need to change.

111 gp, 25 sp....

I had more funds than I orignally thought at my disposal. Time to make some purchases...


Elf Ranger (Guide, Skirmisher)
Lothar Narda wrote:
And as far as the mine issue goes... If you guys think that's best, then fine I'll go along with it. But I'm being practical...sooner or later he's going to figure it when we start ordering supplies to help us tap the mine, unless we bypass him all together and go back to Restov. He doesn't have to be told now, only when we feel that we are ready to go about doing it.

We don't have the authority to mine that land as it's not ours. When we have the authority to put it into production and a plan, then we will definitely want to bring Oleg into the conversation. Until then, it's just a secret he has to keep -- and if it gets out before we are prepared, it could be a cause for danger to come to his doorstep -- until then, he has plausible deniability because he knows nothing about it.

I guess what I'm saying is that we don't want to keep Oleg in the dark about the mine. We want to keep everyone in the dark about the mine - right now.


male Half-orc Squire 2nd class~Paladin of Erastil Shining Knight (level 5)

I forgot to include that fact that I put in 40gp of gold for the chainshirt, so everyone else will get 10gp more for that. So lothar you might have a lot of gold: 189.25 to spend on items. If you haven't been keeping track, there is also 46gold from the orignal bandit attack at Oleg's. It is amazing how quickly money can dissappear when you start buying items.

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