Lords of Taldor: Ascending Majesty: Act 2

Game Master Phoenix Hunter

Episode two: Meeting at the Chelish Villa.
The tense debate for the future of Taldor is interrupted by an atempt on Prince Stavian's life


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Sovereign Court

N Female Taldan Aristocrat 19 | HP 181/181 | AC 37 T 28 FF 37 | CMD 41+ | F +27 R +35+1 W +24 | Init: +27 | Perc: +41, SM: +47 | MV +5, good hope, shield, blessing of fervor, inspire courage, comm. table, tea set active

Now that Lady Gabrielle has caught up with Kyra, once that conversation is finished she is all finished for the Soiree.

She'll look at arranging another meeting between Nev and the Lord Commander later.

Also... As for estates, am I screwing up when it comes to buildings and staffing?

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Female Half-Giant (Taldan) 12 Cavalier

Just so you guys know, I will be out of town from Thursday until Tuesday. I'll be camping and four wheeling, so I don't know if I'll have internet access. I will try to post when we go into town.


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Huzzah!

I have you all thinking about the potential of war and how best to avoid/approach it!

I'll be taking a day or so to collect and compute all your estate bits, and I'll Make sure everything is on the up and up rules wise in that regard for all of you.

After such which I'll be posting your estate earnings for the 14 days between the scenes. In the meantime, think about what each of you would like to do with those 2 weeks, and prep a blurb about it.


OK. Let me know if there are major problems with Lady Gabrielle's estate there. I could really use help with getting it functional.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Heh. Lord Rook is going to spend the entire time gathering information on Valignatir, his actual position in the church and his own family, and what sort of ties/relationship the younger members of said house might have with House Thrune.


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

Well, we're not paranoid at all, are we?

I guess that means I have to actually figure out that information for you.
Crap.


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Lol! Rook's sources WOULD gather all the tidbits that weren't super secret... Even then I'm not sure to what extent his resources might be able to dig your secrets.


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

Do you just want me to handle that?
I'll be fair with it, and it stops him from learning things I don't want him to, while allowing him to get some of the juicy stuff he'd be looking for.

I've got stuff I don't even want to tell you yet, GM.
And when you keep secrets from the GM, you know it's secret.


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Lol! I'd need to Make a final desicion on the DC for the secrets, if Rook pushes the issues.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Absolutely going to push the issues (what if the devil-worshipping foreigner with the ear of the queen is a spy? It's up to Old Man Jenkins to get off the porch and shoot at some ruffians!), but I'm fine with Val telling me what I can and can't learn over the next two weeks with the checks I make, and I won't take 20 except on the ones I'm auto-allowed to.

Researching House Jeggare and their ties to House Thrune:
Knowledge (Nobility), library-aided, auto-20: 20 + 23 + 2 = 45

Gathering Info on Valignatir himself, what he's been up to, whom he talks to, and whether he tends to do things in secret:
Knowledge (Local), library-aided: 1d20 + 32 + 2 ⇒ (11) + 32 + 2 = 45
Diplomacy (Gather Info): 20 + 27 = 47

And finally, looking into what specific interests the Church of Asmodeus (or the devil himself) might have in Taldor or neighboring states:
Knowledge (Religion): 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (2) + 14 = 16
Knowledge (Planes): 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (5) + 14 = 19


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

You'll probably know just about everything about Val himself, but the Church's interests in this conflict may not be as clear as they could be.

Those were some fantastic rolls, I can work with them, if you're okay with that.

If allowed, I'll write up what you would've gotten, and send it to you in a PM, Rook.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Sounds good! Note that Noble Scion means we ALL auto-20 on Diplomacy and Nobility, though. (I'm totally fine learning nothing—but this is just what Inkwell would be doing, one way or another)

Oh, also forgot

Profession (merchant) to investigate Val's financial situation: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (4) + 12 = 16 Nooope...


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

You realize that only lets it do once per day, right?
It hasn't been an issue so far, since you have a week, but it is only 1/day.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Yeah... but as someone who usually plays Lore Oracles, I know how useful that occasional massive bonus can be. (Still not quite as glorious as the time I rolled Kn (local) 46 with a level 4 character, but...)


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

I'd like to see how that worked! xD

But, hinging on what Leviathan says, I'm going to start working on the info for you,

As well as that thing you want, Leviathan.


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Indeed

I'll give this as a base

DC 15 = Basic/less common, but still available via public

DC 20 = Intermediate/lesser known, but can still be found out by talking to to servants and "The unseen" people who work for the individual

DC 25 = Advanced/Difficult knowledge, must've been found through people intimate with the individual (i.e. Family and Friends)

DC 35 = Epic/Rare knowledge, only found through "less than legal" means

DC 45 = Super Epic/Nearly impossible to find without resorting to very strong magics


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

Well, he hit the 45 through the Nobility and Local.
Guess I'll have to come up with something "Super Epic".

What strong magics did you use to find that stuff out, Lord Rook? xD


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)
Valignatir wrote:
What strong magics did you use to find that stuff out, Lord Rook? xD

Being a snarky old man, mostly. Anything that would be unreasonable to find out without magic I probably would have no way of knowing—but we'll assume Lord Rook remembers every piece of gossip he's ever heard, uses magically-augmented hearing to gather every rumor at the parties and dinners he goes to, and probably has your entire family tree somewhere in one of his genealogy books, etc.


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

That's completely fine, but I have quite a paranoid sense of danger, and most likely have several false pieces of information set out.

I'll be incorporating both true and misleading snippets in the PM i send you, once I get it all together.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Note that I have +31 on Sense Motive, so I might have some inkling that there's false information mixed in there somewhere ;)


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

Well, Val wouldn't be telling you this face to face, and your sources could actually believe it's true.

Even with magic, and in your case, Discern Lies, it's hard to detect a lie if the person truly believes it.

Sovereign Court

N Female Taldan Aristocrat 19 | HP 181/181 | AC 37 T 28 FF 37 | CMD 41+ | F +27 R +35+1 W +24 | Init: +27 | Perc: +41, SM: +47 | MV +5, good hope, shield, blessing of fervor, inspire courage, comm. table, tea set active

During the downtime, I imagine that Lady Gabrielle researches the story of Lady Patinella and Princess Calista VI, looking for classic works of art, literature, and opera that portray the tale. She'll also do her best to arrange a chance meeting between the Lord Commander and Nev.

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Male Human Harbinger 3/Wizard 3/Bladecaster 6
Stats:
HP: 117/117 | AC 31 (tch21, Ff22) |CMD: 27 |F: 15, R: 15, W: 15 |Init+12 (always acts in surprise round) |Per: +21, SM: +16
Lord "Inkwell" Rook wrote:
Valignatir wrote:
What strong magics did you use to find that stuff out, Lord Rook? xD
Being a snarky old man, mostly. Anything that would be unreasonable to find out without magic I probably would have no way of knowing—but we'll assume Lord Rook remembers every piece of gossip he's ever heard, uses magically-augmented hearing to gather every rumor at the parties and dinners he goes to, and probably has your entire family tree somewhere in one of his genealogy books, etc.

Constantine is a diviner :D


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I should clarify, your sources are capable of "very strong magic" if you can gather at that level.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)
Ser Constantine Rook wrote:
Constantine is a diviner :D

Constantine may also have a bit of bias here... o_O


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Constantine needs to give me rolls for the final observations at the end of the party.


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Err... Inkwell, I mean


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Oh! I was just using Detect spells, but I can throw down some general observation checks.

Pereption: 1d20 + 26 ⇒ (5) + 26 = 31
Knowledge (arcana): 1d20 + 22 ⇒ (10) + 22 = 32


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

Note that Val does not actually detect as evil, due to his Misdirection ability.


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Also, regular, non-outsider, non-magical people don't detect as good/evil/law/chaos in my world's.


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

I'm guessing that doesn't apply to powerful clerics, which is why I mentioned it.


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Yes, mages of any variety (arcane or divine) do detect, simply because they are steeped in cosmic energies. Psions don't though.


Male Human Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1/ Cleric (herald caller) 11 of Asmodeus

Sounds good.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Yeah... mostly it's to spot hidden liches/outsiders/death cult priests. The kind of thing an inquisitor this old has learned to spend five minutes on every hour he's awake.


Male Human Harbinger 3/Wizard 3/Bladecaster 6
Stats:
HP: 117/117 | AC 31 (tch21, Ff22) |CMD: 27 |F: 15, R: 15, W: 15 |Init+12 (always acts in surprise round) |Per: +21, SM: +16
GM Leviathan wrote:
Also, regular, non-outsider, non-magical people don't detect as good/evil/law/chaos in my world's.

I heartily approve of this.

Darn, I need to remember Constantine can give himself see invisibility as a swift action any time he wants..


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

See Invisibility isn't too useful in a room full of 80 people, because how can you tell which one was invisible? But when paired with Detect Magic...

Also, fun GMing trick: Fill a room with invisible fog, invisible glitterdust, invisible pyrotechnics, or invisible permanencied Symbol spells. Your mooks will be fine, but when they vanish, anyone who responsively casts a see invisibility spell will be blinded/paralyzed/cursed/killed for quite a bit.

Alternately, keep the dungeon dark, pick monsters tremorsense/blindsense (like dire bats guarding a wizard's cave), and let the symbols trigger against anyone with darkvision. That one's sure to go over extra fun.


Female Human Bard 12
Lord "Inkwell" Rook wrote:
Fill a room with invisible fog, invisible glitterdust, invisible pyrotechnics, or invisible permanencied Symbol spells. Your mooks will be fine, but when they vanish, anyone who responsively casts a see invisibility spell will be blinded/paralyzed/cursed/killed for quite a bit.

Err. Spell effects are not valid targets for invisibility. Creatures or objects only (I guess a wall filled with explosive runes or symbols and turned invisible would count) but definitely not 'fog.'

So yeah, I'd be calling major shenanigans on that.

Also, if Rook casts See Invisibility - he is definitely giving himself away (unless he is casting it with stilled and silenced, or you're using a spell-like/supernatural ability). Kyra is the only one who can get away with casting spells unnoticed in the party - due to being a bard with the spellsong feat.

Sovereign Court

N Female Taldan Aristocrat 19 | HP 181/181 | AC 37 T 28 FF 37 | CMD 41+ | F +27 R +35+1 W +24 | Init: +27 | Perc: +41, SM: +47 | MV +5, good hope, shield, blessing of fervor, inspire courage, comm. table, tea set active

This talk about perceiving things leads me to a question. How do Stealth and detect magic interact in this game? Can someone Stealth past someone using a cantrip?


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Being a GM means you can turn anything you want invisible.

And Lord Rook has no problem with giving himself away—although he could always just waddle into the next room to cast if he wanted.


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If you are magically invisible, and someone has detect magic active (or any b other magic that sees magical auras) you are then only as stealthy as your stealth roll permits.

Basically, if you can see a magical aura, you may not be able to see the details the way you could with see invisibity, but you can still see the aura... Essentially I'd permit the use of the blind fight feat with detect magic. If you engaged in combat, but you still don't know exactly what or who you are dealing with, and you can't get detailed enough to see precise movements of the object... If that makes sense.


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Also, Rook, I need a sleight and a (bluff/stealth) before I can proceed with your action.


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Sleight of Hand: 1d20 - 1 ⇒ (17) - 1 = 16
Bluff: 1d20 + 22 ⇒ (5) + 22 = 27

...but he's not really trying to disguise it; he's fine with whoever's there knowing exactly what he's doing.

Sovereign Court

N Female Taldan Aristocrat 19 | HP 181/181 | AC 37 T 28 FF 37 | CMD 41+ | F +27 R +35+1 W +24 | Init: +27 | Perc: +41, SM: +47 | MV +5, good hope, shield, blessing of fervor, inspire courage, comm. table, tea set active

Thanks GM!

What about the case when someone is not invisible, but possesses magic items, and is using Stealth? Can she Stealth by someone using detect magic and not be picked up by the caster?


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It works exactly normal in that circumstance. Just because you can see the aura visibly, doesn't mean that you can't cover or Elsewise non-magically obfuscate the aura (such as hiding behind a wall)


M Human (Taldan) Inquisitor 12 (Urban Infiltrator, Tactics) / Monk 2 (Unchained) / Fighter 1 (Lore Warden)

Or casting Misdirection...


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Indeed.

I like to take a more practical stance on magic overall.

Things like True seeing, See magic, read script, there's no reason why someone can't put a physical obstruction in the way as opposed to a magical one... If you've caked on the makeup, then what would true seeing be able to do? You're already seeing exactly what is presented... A face with tons of makeup on.

Seeing through an illusory wall however, would make it useful.


Male Human Harbinger 3/Wizard 3/Bladecaster 6
Stats:
HP: 117/117 | AC 31 (tch21, Ff22) |CMD: 27 |F: 15, R: 15, W: 15 |Init+12 (always acts in surprise round) |Per: +21, SM: +16

There was a metamagic feat in 3.5 that cost +0 to add that could make a spell invisible.

Sovereign Court

N Female Taldan Aristocrat 19 | HP 181/181 | AC 37 T 28 FF 37 | CMD 41+ | F +27 R +35+1 W +24 | Init: +27 | Perc: +41, SM: +47 | MV +5, good hope, shield, blessing of fervor, inspire courage, comm. table, tea set active

OK, so just to be sure... Regular Stealth works against detect magic, due to the cover. As for misdirection, well, I am hoping that this will be my first game where I get to solve problems with cleverness and skills, without having to rely on magic.


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Sorry Rook. Like any good movie, there has to be suspense!

Sovereign Court

N Female Taldan Aristocrat 19 | HP 181/181 | AC 37 T 28 FF 37 | CMD 41+ | F +27 R +35+1 W +24 | Init: +27 | Perc: +41, SM: +47 | MV +5, good hope, shield, blessing of fervor, inspire courage, comm. table, tea set active

Hmm, this makes me wonder if Gabrielle is less safe in the hedge maze than she thinks...

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