Lords of Gossamer & Shadow (diceless) (Inactive)

Game Master Johnny_Panic

This is a Lords of Gossamer & Shadow Using the Diceless game designed by Erick Wujcik and Game setting from Rite Publishing


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I think the logic of a blanket near doubling of cost is flawed. Not all lower level abilities/powers are extras or add anything to the artifact. In my example of a Deadly damage weapon with named & numbered forms, what extra abilities are there? The different less effective damage levels aren't extra abilities, and a item with Named & numbered forms gains nothing by having the Alternate form ability.

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Ok guys, I'm getting your points, so I'm dropping my house rule on object points accumulating, it seems to be what you all want, so a good GM admits when something is not liked.

Back to pure rules for the objects
1+1+2

With other stuff, I'm going to make it case by case,
So far all items are oked.

But note for game"s sake some powers my be limited for a while so that big bars can be so, they will counter some powers with there own. If you happy with that, cuz I need it for dame drama then, happy to revert back.

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Ok so went over the item rules again and there is a lot in there, Linked to power seems to be where the confusion is, that's not the same as having that power to transferred power.

Then Qualities are an item’s equivalent to Attributes but they are NOT Attributes in the way a PC has then, they are just listed things it can do.

To be honest its bl**y confusing for me as well. They could have worded it a little better in stead of reusing works linked to what a PC has.

There is this

Example of Artifact & Creature Creation from the book:

The gamemaster sits down with Stratton to review his character, Reevard. This portion of their discussion concerns Artifacts &
Creatures.

Gamemaster: Okay, Stratton. I see you’ve filed out a couple of Artifact & Creature worksheets. Let’s hear what you picked.

Stratton: Well, fist off, I thought I’d pick a weapon. Reevard is a jack-of-all-trades and a bit of a rogue, so I wanted
something versatile and easy to conceal. I decided on a weapon that changes shape. Sometimes it’s a big knife,
or a light rapier, or a pistol, a small crossbow, a chain, or even a spiked gauntlet. When Reevard isn’t using it, it
appears like a metal bracer covering his whole right forearm.

Gamemaster: That sounds cool. It keeps roughly the same mass all the time?

Stratton: Yes. It also looks similar, so it’s always a black “thing” with gold tracing and Reevard’s personal symbol
somewhere on it. Don’t know what the symbol is yet, though.

Gamemaster: Nice. How did you spend the points?

Stratton: I picked Double Damage [2 Points], Resistant to Firearms [2 Points] if he wants to use it to parry while it’s on
his arm, Mold Gossamer Matter [1 Point] so it can shape Gossamer matter for ammo if it needs it, and Alternate
Named & Numbered Forms [2 Points] to cover all different shapes.

Gamemaster: You have a small arsenal there for the grand total of 7 points. What a bargain! What’s the other sheet for?

Stratton: I want my character to call on a demon servitor, from some Gossamer world that resembles Hell.

Gamemaster: Wow! Tell me about it.

Stratton: Well, I’m assuming that on his Gossamer hell-world, he can think, move, fl, etc., right?

Gamemaster: Right. Let’s assume that if you take him out of his hell-world, he’s equivalent to a normal human, though, unless
you improve him through points.

Stratton: That’s what I thought. So I bought Immense Vitality [4 Points], Double Speed [2 Points], Paragon Stamina [2
Points], Combat Mastery [2 Points], Double Damage claws and horns [2 Points], Resistant to Firearms [2
Points], and Extraordinary Psychic Sense [4 Points] which is how he knows when I’m in danger. I fiured that
Double Speed could count for when he’s fling? Is that all right?

Gamemaster: I’m impressed. That’s a lot of points, but he’s going to be very, very tough.

Stratton: I’m not done yet. I want him to get to me, so he has Follow Path [2 Points], Rapid Healing [2 Points], and I
don’t want others messing with him, so I want True Name is Warded [2 Points]. He also Contains Named &
Numbered Cantrips [2 Points].

Gamemaster: If my math is correct, this bad boy is going to set you back 26 points. That’s not cheap. Anything you want to cut?

Stratton: I’m happy with him. His name is Wityk, and he’s pretty much your classic combat demon. He’s got a cruel sense
of humor and loves bloodshed.

Gamemaster: I’m sure he’ll be the hit of the party

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Sorry Goings just got a contract to go on a bossiness trip for a week, fly out tonight, bit of a rush, going to be hopping on and off planes, so no idea if and wgphen I can post.

I'll set it up for a meet and greet

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Congratulations on the business trip; hope it's to someplace nice.


HP 46/49 | AC 23 | T 18 | FF 16 | CMD 20 | Fort +13 | Ref +11 | Will +14 | Init +4 | Perc +11

This is LitanyOfCurses ALT. There are many like her but this one is mine.

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Thiol Solius wrote:
This is LitanyOfCurses ALT. There are many like her but this one is mine.

Ok solids your up, this is, your moment to say hi to the others, dispinas come to your world and ask you to come, your call on how,

Every one of you has now seen the taint on your home world, some more than overs but you now see its one in the same thing.

Some of you have a more pressing problem with it than others, at this meeting you will deside with dispinas help which of the five world to save 1st, if you can save that world.

That I hope sets the context for this, the real start of the game.

Thiol and Chinai are there now,

It's up to you if you learn from this meeting and head back to fight the taint on your own or can get others to come help you.

Chinai, the arm you spotted was large, made of all manner of twisted life from your world.
Thiol you have only seen a small hint of the taint, but that dos not mean it is not there.

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Sorry if it feels a little rail roared up to this point, wanted to get to this part fast as it really starts the game.


Doesn't Thiol need to be fitted into the PC rankings?


Male Augmented human

JP: Nuuskin will want to adjust his spells so that they function well in Severus' reality. This gives me an opportunity to ask:How many spells can he hang at any given time?

Silver Crusade

could someone help Chris Mortika in making an alt for Mortika

Im sorry just don't have the time no and posting from my Ipad v 3G and its hard to get sites.

Silver Crusade

Could you post description and any linked images to what you look like in game play guys.

Ill do the rankings soon as I get back to my Big PC.

Silver Crusade

There you go guys, my games always have a lot of action,
Sorry for the speed bad spelling, combo of iPad spell checker and rushing

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What additional alias do I need, Johnny?

Can Severus's medical team patch Nuuskin up? How long does it take?

How long does it take to adjust Nuuskin's sorcery so that it works on different worlds? How many different spells can he hang at one time?

--

Before we go off on adventure:

An hour or so ago in the game, we didn't have the full measure of our powers. Has that changed? Does Severeus, for example, need time to train in Eidolon Mastery?

Silver Crusade

Ok
1: Post with the right A alias if possible when posting in Gameplay, PCs Alts only

2: You dont know your powers full thats going to be all part of the game,

3: spell wise there are some listed in the book, but just list say
12 of different types.

4: Has you PC told any one yet he is badly hurt??

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1) Yep. It's pretty common for me to post, and then realize I used my normal alias. If there's time, I go back and fix it so that it's the PC alias, but once in a while I don't realize until an hour has passed, and then I can't change things. My apologies.

3) I'll post my spell book here tonight.

4) Nuuskin has gone off to the medical tents.


Nuuskin wrote:
Can Severus's medical team patch Nuuskin up? How long does it take?

Severus' army isn't really like the Roman army in anything other than organization, they have some high tech so I'd expect their medics to be pretty good(?)

Query: Moomins?

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Yep done it that way , Nuuskamuikkunen you will be fine to come back soon as you wish, you will know what the others do, also your not 100% just now 80% still a little hurt only.


Male Augmented human

Nuuskamuikkunen's Hanging Spells:

Most of these spells are attached to "fetishes," objects in Nuuskin's pouch that he uses to focus his will. The fetishes aren't magical as such, but they help him hold a hung spell.

Mind Touch -- pg 43, so far, Nuuskin's version of the spell is directed at people he can see, or those whose True Name his knows.

Quell - pg 43

Innocuousness -- A mind-affecting spell, makes the subject appear unremarkable.

Weaken -- pg 44

Barrier -- pg 44

Magic Drain -- pg 44

Bolt -- pg 44

Elemental Boar -- A synthesis of Replicate Object and Environmental Attack, this spell creates a massive boar made out of material at hand: stone, lava, ice, smoke, etc.

Chill -- drops the temperature of a target by 20 - 75 degrees Celsius.

Audible Glamer -- Nuuskin's version of this spell only allows a male voice to sound, speaking words as he wishes. He uses it for out-of-combat communication.

Transport -- Like teleport, but requiring an arc of travel.

Analyze Dwoemer -- This spell opens Nuuskin's senses to various magical energies, with a fine enough precision that he can "look at" auras and standing magical fields and puzzle out what a hanging spell or trap is supposed to do.

Silver Crusade

notes pop them in your alt under a spoiler

Silver Crusade

Ill need when I have time to look up the spells, and may need a little more info to fit the game worlds


I was interested, what is the process whereby Nuuskin is contacting people psychically?

I assume it isn't simply Psyche with the metronome device as color, since mind to mind contact generally needs skin to skin contact unless a power like Eidolon, Sorcery, Wrighting or Umbra is used. (or maybe a powerful device of some sort might aid in that regard? )

If it is purely Psyche is that why there had to be acceptance of the contact?

Real question. Psychic contact can be benign and simple communication or it can be used to initiate psychic combat!

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Sorcery.

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Thing about powers, there are lesser and greater ones, cost wise,
A 10point power is not going to trump a 50 point mega power, simple
BUT and this is the Big BuT you get kicked in,
You have to KNoW to use it and have it up ready to contest a lower power.

Lesser powers have the advantage of being more procise, more targeted.
Ok down side it takes time, in some cases a lot of time, and resources, but done right it can Hit some one with a mega power hard and fast, before the can up there mega counter.

Balance is all guys, if a power is seen as a cheap nurph tool for a much higher spend then why bother, your not playing pathfinder, hunting rule brakes don't work in this fame, munchkins get jumped on. Some for sudo PvP powers,

You state the action, the GM and other players state the reaction.
You start saying how other players feel and act and that we'll be jumped on by just about every one, that gos for me as a GM as well, I start over controlling your PCs you pull me up about it ASAP.

Fun is the aim here, if your not having fun then the games broken for you, and I will do my best to fix that,

We have all plaid in games where there has been player style clashes, if it gets to bad some one has to go, sorry but we all know if the players can't work things out that's what happens, so far we are all good, so I'm not worried about that, but with a game with this much power in it, it can happen real fast.

Ok until we hit a problem with powers and abiultys I'll keep things lite, no need to fix things that ant broke yet.


Sounds about right. My question was for clarification more than anything else, because mental contact in diceless is one of the most widely interpreted effects/events from game to game. Some games allow mental contact using only Psyche via eye contact for instance.

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Humm yep thats come up in Pathfinder as well and other games.

I would suggest you state who you sending to and how.

With Nuusk, hes doing with nice limits

1: He's using and item that has to be set up and players /NPCs have to be in close proximity to it, time and effort. Also any player can just block it with little of know effort.

I am also taking it that its for PCs only, GM PCs no, so Disbina has no idea what its doing for now as he has yet to talk directly to her.

When hes talking one on one, hes uses a pipe and smoke. I must say I like that idea, but again nice limiters, hes got to be smoking, who ever hes talking to has to be close, little wing etc.

His voice is a danger, it calls things, some times bad things, I like that idea and the way hes dealing with it.

Now META TP, talking to every one on the planet. ye thats to much.
Talking to someone on a another Gossamer, well its a time and place things, some doors let you other don't.

On of the resins the Dwimmerlaik has so bad is the fact they and they alone seem to have the power to see past any door, to push there minds into Gossamer worlds. Its something unique to them in my game.

Yes there are power that let your mind rome around a Gossamer but you have to be IN IT to do IT.

There are powers that let you see past a door, but JUST the area beyond the door not that far.

In this way the big bad is always the big bad in a way that is scarry and cool.

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Hehe and now it starts, ok META GAME STUFF,

Disbina has told you that All your Gossamers are in Danger, some more than others but you don't know which and how, she has also said that it will take you acting as a team in each Gossamers to save it.

Now do you risk going alone, working to save another or push to have your own saved 1st.

O I'm an evil GM I am.

Muwwhahah!

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Thiol Solius wrote:
This is LitanyOfCurses ALT. There are many like her but this one is mine.

Thiol you need to post in game play, ill give you a day, if you dont your PC will come to a bad end.

:)

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Guys going to wait in Thiol, sent a PM, if he/she dos not get back to me then Im sorry to say he may to have the power to survive the orb test.

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Johnny, Dispina said "Four out of five." Nuuskin has not yet touched the sphere.

Given how deadly it is, and the cavalier attitude she has about whether it would kill us, and her frank admission that "4 out of 5" is too high, Nuuskin would have to be insane at this point to do so.

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Very ill at moment


Chris Mortika wrote:

Johnny, Dispina said "Four out of five." Nuuskin has not yet touched the sphere.

Given how deadly it is, and the cavalier attitude she has about whether it would kill us, and her frank admission that "4 out of 5" is too high, Nuuskin would have to be insane at this point to do so.

I considered the same sort of approach, but decided a one-off suspension of logic was worth the free power. Have to applaud your RPing integrity though. :-)


Female Half Elve Witch 1

Sorry your not feeling well.

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Disbina" wrote:


"I'll be going with you, the others will be splitting in to two groups, one will stay to find the taint here, the other will head to Thiol's world to she what's happening there. The army should be at my tower now, so they will slow them down."

Friends, I'm sure that Nuuskin understands what she's saying here, but I'm confused.

There are 3 incarnations of Disbina here.

One will accompany us to our first world. I'm still not sure what we're expected to do there, without any access / experience using Real Powers.

One will stay here and "find the taint". (Maybe it's the monstrous people attacking Severus' troops?)

The third will explore Thiol's home world.

"The army should be at my tower now". What army; Severus's? What tower? Where?

"They will slow them down?" Who will slow whom down? Someone is capable of slowing the forces of the Shadow? How?

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@Chris Mortika

Disbina" wrote:


"I'll be going with you, the others will be splitting in to two groups, one will stay to find the taint here, the other will head to Thiol's world to she what's happening there. The army should be at my tower now, so they will slow them down."

>Friends, I'm sure that Nuuskin understands what she's saying here, but I'm confused.

>There are 3 incarnations of Disbina here.

Nope sorry was not clear, there are 6, one with each of you and another at the door

>One will accompany us to our first world. I'm still not sure what we're expected to do there, without any access / experience using Real Powers.

Good then I am GMing this right, understanding comes with explnations from other players in game play, asking for it here is a little Mega game-e etc :o)

>One will stay here and "find the taint". (Maybe it's the monstrous people attacking Severus' troops?)

Three will stay and WHERE attacking, this is now clean up, she is looking to see if there is any more in this Cosmos. IE other doors if any

>The third will explore Thiol's home world.
Two more will go there as statted

>"The army should be at my tower now". What army; Severus's? What tower? Where?

>"They will slow them down?" Who will slow whom down? Someone is capable of slowing the forces of the Shadow? How?

Q's for game play, again asking here is a little meta gamey. Assume your PC is only getting half the story here, he will need to ask other players what's going on in thire world in game play nout outside etc.

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I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "meta-gamey," Johnny, either with a smiley face or not. I'm not applying out-of-character knowledge to an in-character decision.

What I understand you to be saying is that some of Disbina's comments are not supposed to make sense to us in character, yes.


I think Johnny is saying that if your PC is confused or concerned by what Disbina says that he should ask questions IC, rather than you the player asking such questions OOC here.

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Sure. I wasn't sure whether that information were obvious to others IC or not, whether that was information that the character ought to already know.


Female Skorvid/Darkling

Computer doesn't want to work today. I'll try again tomorrow.

Silver Crusade

Tch'Chiana wrote:
Computer doesn't want to work today. I'll try again tomorrow.

No problem Tch post when you can :)

Silver Crusade

will post soon just have family stuff this week end


So....

Silver Crusade

Been waiting to see what you guys do


Looking fairly slow at mo'


Female Skorvid/Darkling

Waiting on GM responses myself.

Silver Crusade

sorry guys back on track now.

Silver Crusade

Ok guys heads up, I live and work in China, and as of two weeks ago, the Chinses Gov is cracking down on VPNs, burned throw two trying to keep posting on this site, but the grate fire wall of china now seems to thing Paizo is evil and bad. So doing my best to post, but last night a wrote a long post about the shift to the tower fight and to day I look and its gone. No idea if it was the site or the great firewall.

Ill try and post it back up again later today.

Silver Crusade

im on a business tip for the net 2 days
sorry guys

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Hope everything's okay.

Silver Crusade

Yep back just working my a** off at office.
Ill post now

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