Living in the Shadows

Game Master Dementia Walker

In recent days both the Thieves and Assassins guild have collapsed due to infighting, rivalry, and meddling from the city's government. However rather then having a calming effect on the crime in the city it has done quite the opposite and the city is now in chaos with many small gangs fighting and causing trouble.


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Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

Open for business.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Got any wacky waving inflatable are flailing tube men?


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

They were fresh out when I asked about them.


Male Human Rogue 1

Haha!


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Here is my favorite image of this character.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Okay so I know I need a couple of feats but I am not sure which order to go in:

Weapon Finesse
Point-Blank Shot
Rogue Talent (Befuddling Strike)
Two-Weapon Fighting
Quick Draw
Sly Draw
Combat Reflexes
Combat Expertise
Improved Feint

I can use Rogue Talent to get most of these since they are combat feats but that's a feat per level to level 9. After 7th level I need to through Improved Two-Weapon Fighting in there as well. Any suggestions.

Also Dementia you never actually vetoed the 3pp archetype Glory Rogue. All of us could use that if this is going to be an all rogue party.

Sczarni

Male Human

We won't have two attacks for a while without TWF, and that requires standing toe to toe with a martial (not ideal), I prefer to go into fainting as above action first, cause we need sneak as often as possible. Use rogue talent to pick up Finesse rogue. My 2 cents.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

True. I probably don't need anything melee oriented until later. But I think sly draw would be the better option for now since I have a better sleight of hand than bluff and spring loaded weapon sheathes. And Combat Expertise is pretty much useless for me. I might get dazzling display and shatter defenses instead of feint.


Male Human Rogue 1

Combat expertise is basically just a feat tax to get to things like trip, disarm, and more importantly, feint. As rogue we need that sneak damage to be consistent.

Also, it's a boost to AC if you have to fight our way through or get away from something.

If it doesn't fit what you're doing with the character though, that's pretty much that :)


Male Human Rogue 1

Also, DM, you mentioned mythic content. Can we expect to gain mythic tiers at some point?


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Yeah, I'm also curious about the Mythic content.

Also, are we able to use some things from Ultimate Campaign/Kingmaker? Because I have some ideas of Victor opening some taverns, building a new hideout, hiring people, etc, etc. I'll take a look and put up my ideas in Victor's alias. I also need time to think about my feats and talents.

Nice pic, Tobias. Also, Tobias, have you've taken a look at the Shadow Assassin 3rd party class (if it's allowed)?


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Back when I built this character in 3.5 I did take some swordsage levels late to give him some extra shadow-like abilities. That one has some of that flavor but I don't like deadly focus. I had a friend who had a an oath bow and got really screwed on the final boss fight because the guy he used to mark with the oath, wasn't the final boss and got away. If the same thing happens here I loose out on a lot of dps. And Wisdom isn't that important to a rogue.


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1
Tobias Flint wrote:
Also Dementia you never actually vetoed the 3pp archetype Glory Rogue. All of us could use that if this is going to be an all rogue party.

As I have said before I would prefer Paizo/Pathfinder specific material only. If you have a good argument for including something, other then 'it would make the character more bad A.' I will think about it.

I am eventually thinking of getting you guys mythic tiers, we will just have to see what happens in the game though.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

I imagine that Victor's roles would be burglary, theft, disarming traps, sneak attacks. Maybe creating forgeries. Things like that.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

My plan is to buy a smokestick (just in case) and recruit the courtesans to provide a distraction for the guards and sneak in while they're distracted. Or maybe, I can have one of them lure one of them so I can knock him out, take his clothes, and disguise my way in? Though, my disguise check is low...


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Just so you guys know, posting this weekend might be sporadic because I'll be going on a trip with my family.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Just letting everyone know that I'm still here. I'll try to post tomorrow.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Okay. Just added a section in my alias describing three important npcs in Victor's backstory.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Do I need to do the same?


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

If you would like, I could incorporate them into the game instead of just making up random people. Waiting on Weylyn to post


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Yeah, I would like that. It's information on Victor's brother, half-sister, and girlfriend. All of who are mentioned in Victor's background. I also left some notes for our GM that he might use. Again, it's all up to him.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

So... I wonder who's going to get the statue first: Victor or Weylyn. I'd say I'm getting it first, because I have 2/3 of the vault code and the map to the vault. Not bragging or anything.


Male Human Rogue 1

It's easier to steal that which has already been stolen :)


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Is that a challenge? >:)

Sczarni

Male Human

Temper, temper! I wouldn't dream of challenging you. ;P


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Well, I still have my eye on you. Remember we did play together in a RotRL game before it went bellyup.


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

Haha, can't help but think of the mission for getting into the thieves guild in Oblivion with this banter.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Haha, haven't played enough of Oblivion for me to join the thieves guild. I'm still towards the beginning. So I wouldn't know.

Skyrim, on the other hand; I've become head of the thieves guild.


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

There is a quest to steal a journal. If you are not fast enough you can just steal it off one of the other participants after they get it. It's rather funny


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Sounds cool.

Weylyn, still here? Or is he at Gen Con?


Male Human Rogue 1

Here. Just a busy night.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Sorry about that. I thought a good chunk of people would be at Gen Con.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

I am!

-Posted with Wayfinder


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

And how is it? I've never been there.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Exhausting but fun.

-Posted with Wayfinder


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

Weylyn you still around? I am trying to keep all of my replies to you guys at once until you meet up.


Male Human Rogue 1

I am here. Sorry, busy weekend and then I forgot :(

I'll post tonight.


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

No problem


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

So when is tonight for you?


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

Dementia you still around?


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

For some reason it didn't show that he posted last time I was on.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Just so you guys know, my family will be taking my brother to his college on Sunday. So, posting may be sporadic.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Dang it.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

If Weylyn doesn't respond by Saturday, one week after his last post, I am going to assume he is gone and probably leave myself. I prefer fast paced games. This one had some potential seeing as its an all rogue game but being in different places seems to be causing some problems. Especially when people can't seem to make the one post a day minimum.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Sent him a pm.


Male Human Rogue 1

I'm still here. Real life and all that.


Male Human Rogue 3 | HP: 22/22 | AC:18 T:14 FF:14 | CMB +4 | CMD:18 | Fort: +3 Ref: +7 Will:+3 | Init: +4 | Perc: +8

No offense but if real life is causing this much difficulty in posting at least once a day then we should probably find someone else cause neither of us are having problems. This is the third time we have had to wait on you.


Male Human Rogue (Burglar) 1/Commoner 0

Or at least let us know ahead of time.

Just so everyone knows, I picked up some hours at work for tomorrow. I will be gone for most of the day.


Male Human Rogue 1

No offense, Tobias, but you're pretty annoying :)

I'm out if that's what you want.


Male Mostly Human Expert Lv1

I have no problem with Weylyn's slow posting schedule, I understand that life sometimes gets in the way since I have a job that sometimes demands 14hrs a day from me and a 6 month old at home. People that can post once a day are not the only ones looking for games.

I am sorry if I do not match your sense of urgency in posting and reading posts. If that is what kills this game then so be it, but I am willing to continue.

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