Kingmaker: Stolen Lands of the Shining

Game Master BloodWolven

Here are the rules...to Create a Nation
Ruling a Kingdom
Building a City

Resources and loot.
NPCs, please check and add info.

Stolenlands map, Thanks to Tristan and Quince!

Kingdom Stats
More Accurate Kingdom Stats

Warden's Fight!


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Greetings Adventurers and Heroes, this will be the area to address out of game content and ask your questions.


So first off, I was wondering if you would still like to do Kingmaker or another Adventure Path? I was looking through things and doing two at the same time may be a bit much! Looking for your input, questions and suggestions.


M Human
Vitals/Stats:
Lv 2 Monk of the Lotus HP: 16/16, - AC: 15/T: 15/FF: 13 - Perception: +7 - Initiative: +5 - F: +5 / R: +4 (evasion)/ W: +6 - CMB: +3 (+5 grapple) - CMD: 18 (20 vs Grapple), Speed: 30
skills:
Acrobatics +5, Climb +6 , Diplomacy +3, Disable Device +5, Intimidate +6, Knowledge (history) +4 Knowledge (religion) +5, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Stealth +5

Am I correct in understanding that the slow group is staying here, but the fast group is off to Advanced Class somewhere else?

If so, I'm up for nearly anything. I would think same adventure path would be easier for you, but maybe more boring.

I'm down for nearly anything adventure wise.


Angeus Swashbuckler 1 HP 12/12 AC:16/T: 13/FF: 13 Perception +3 Initative +3 F:+2 R:+5 W:+0 CMB:+1 CMD:14/11FF Speed:30( 20 wearing backpack)

I've heard that Kingmaker can be a bit intense bookkeeping wise, so I can see why you may not want to run two at the same time.

While personally I want to play kingmaker, ultimately its up to you wolf what you can handle so that none of your games suffer.


I was wondering if I could have one of you help me bookkeep, not for sure what it will entail just yet, but as I look through the material I may need some help, looking for interest. If I can get a helper I should be able to run both.

Cool, thanks Angeus!


Angeus Swashbuckler 1 HP 12/12 AC:16/T: 13/FF: 13 Perception +3 Initative +3 F:+2 R:+5 W:+0 CMB:+1 CMD:14/11FF Speed:30( 20 wearing backpack)

Don't think you'll need too much help at first, if i remember the nation building complexity doesn't start until the 2nd or 3rd module.

But say the word and I'll pitch in whenever you need an helping hand :)


Next question:
Are you all in a group at present? Are you all going to collect the Charter individually or as a group? How do your backgrounds connect?


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

I vote for Kingmaker as well. As for the Book Keeping, perhaps we can all do a piece of it if it can be broken down like that?


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)
GM Wolf wrote:

Next question:

Are you all in a group at present? Are you all going to collect the Charter individually or as a group? How do your backgrounds connect?

I am still working with a tie-in with Masota since her background is closer to Keveros'. I am a little behind since I switched to the slow paced group. Who else has tie-ins?


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Due to our backgrounds, I am guessing Masota and Kevros will already be together. If it is too hard for tying-in each other, perhaps Masota and Kevros can form up the group? Regardless, I am up for any thing.


You all can easily be going to a tavern called the Ivory Lass, the location to pick up charters for the mission.


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)
GM Wolf wrote:
You all can easily be going to a tavern called the Ivory Lass, the location to pick up charters for the mission.

Sounds good to me and start role playing in line for the charter or what ever?


You may if you want, but I have to turn in early tonight, catch ya all tomorrow. Feel free to introduce yourselves, nothing too special about the tavern.


Angeus Swashbuckler 1 HP 12/12 AC:16/T: 13/FF: 13 Perception +3 Initative +3 F:+2 R:+5 W:+0 CMB:+1 CMD:14/11FF Speed:30( 20 wearing backpack)

Yeah sounds good.... none of our backstories present a ton of chances to meet


I am still on the road with none of my notes or books, the hostilities may have just stopped... Soon to be found out, give me a few hours. ;)


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

What Elvish translator are you using so we can be in Synch ... LOL

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

I just put down some gibberish, their is an actual translator?


Male Kitsune
Vital Stats/Skills:
HP: 88/88 (92/92), - AC: 34/T: 14/FF: 24 – Perception +15 - Initiative: +6 - F: +17 / R: +13/ W: +17 (15) - CMB: +14 (16) - CMD: 30, Speed: 40, Acrobatics +15
Oracle (Curse: Tongues)
Other:
Diplomacy +22 (24 Fey), Handle Animal +15, Kn. Geography +12, Kn. History +11, Kn. Religion +11, Prof. Cartographer +10, Ride +19, Sense Motive +14, Spellcraft +16, Survival +12

Lol that is what I did


Male IT Engineer
BloodWolven wrote:
I just put down some gibberish, their is an actual translator?

LOL, there a couple, this is the one I am using. The cut and paste of translation seems quirky, just keep clicking it until you are able to cut and paste the translation.

http://eclipsegaming.pbworks.com/f/aerenal_translator.html

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

thx, will do!

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

@ Kevros: Yup I remember them. Just checking, I have not seen weapon cords in equipment before, but it makes sense.


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)
BloodWolven wrote:
@ Kevros: Yup I remember them. Just checking, I have not seen weapon cords in equipment before, but it makes sense.

Here is a good example of one and this would work in PF too (make sure to copy and paste since Goto from Paizo website doesn't seem to work properly)...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/mgi6GY7P15vDTR4omHHcIxMvOj_u8yMUcs _gizCqWlLqOif4_RS5oyCdd06Z2fzzL1W-EPgzvl2IIvlg20MSqCaf9mC5QcWdA_O1XHRuDNLkI DukmtWl-r4VIkfM19MIgSdhyZkXAB4M1PeEtLD9EqLeck4=s220-c


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

I am going to be offline for a bit, I'll check back later.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

Would everyone please post what kind of mount you have so far for my information, let alone so that we all know at the Black Fur.


M Human
Vitals/Stats:
Lv 2 Monk of the Lotus HP: 16/16, - AC: 15/T: 15/FF: 13 - Perception: +7 - Initiative: +5 - F: +5 / R: +4 (evasion)/ W: +6 - CMB: +3 (+5 grapple) - CMD: 18 (20 vs Grapple), Speed: 30
skills:
Acrobatics +5, Climb +6 , Diplomacy +3, Disable Device +5, Intimidate +6, Knowledge (history) +4 Knowledge (religion) +5, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Stealth +5

light horse and a damn fine one, i must say...


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Heavy warhorse (combat trained) from the Pioneer Campaign Trait.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

kits in the room:

This kit includes a backpack, bedroll, a belt pouch, a winter blanket, flint and steel, 1/8 lb. soap, torches (3), sacks (3), small steel Mirror, trail rations (5 days), spade, signal whistle, and a waterskin.

Mess Kit
This kit includes a plate, bowl, cup, fork, knife, and spoon, made of wood, horn, or tin. Each item has a handle or small hole, and can be tied together using the included leather cord.

Round table kits:
Cooking Kit
This kit contains an iron pot, an iron skillet, a ladle, a skewer, a wooden cutting board, a cutting knife, an iron tripod for the pot, a packet of tinder, and a small selection of local or otherwise easy to find seasonings. You can attach the skewer to the tripod for roasting small game animals. All the component pieces (except the skillet) fit within the pot for easy storage and transport.

Dungeoneering Kit
This bundle of essential supplies for exploring ruins and abandoned cities includes two candles, chalk, a hammer and four pitons, 50 feet of hemp rope, a hooded lantern with 5 flasks of oil, two sacks, two torches, and four tindertwigs. A deluxe dungeoneering kit contains two candles, chalk, a hammer and four pitons, 50 feet of silk rope, two sacks, three sunrods, four tindertwigs, and an everburning torch.

Mapmaker's Kit
This small kit contains a simple slate with a grid carved into its surface and a number of differently colored pieces of chalk. If you use this kit to draw a map as you travel, you receive a +2 circumstance bonus on Survival skill checks to avoid becoming lost.

Four lengths of 50 ft. of silk rope. Two collapsible grappling hooks. Three grappling arrows. Climber's Kit. Three healer's Kits. Two tents.


Angeus Swashbuckler 1 HP 12/12 AC:16/T: 13/FF: 13 Perception +3 Initative +3 F:+2 R:+5 W:+0 CMB:+1 CMD:14/11FF Speed:30( 20 wearing backpack)

Angeus will supplement her own personal kit with items she's missing : soap, torches, sacks mirror , spade, whistle.

She will also take a mess kit and will carry the climber's kit.


Male Kitsune
Vital Stats/Skills:
HP: 88/88 (92/92), - AC: 34/T: 14/FF: 24 – Perception +15 - Initiative: +6 - F: +17 / R: +13/ W: +17 (15) - CMB: +14 (16) - CMD: 30, Speed: 40, Acrobatics +15
Oracle (Curse: Tongues)
Other:
Diplomacy +22 (24 Fey), Handle Animal +15, Kn. Geography +12, Kn. History +11, Kn. Religion +11, Prof. Cartographer +10, Ride +19, Sense Motive +14, Spellcraft +16, Survival +12

I took the map makers kit and 1/8 lb. soap (your welcome), torches (3), sacks (3), small steel Mirror, trail rations (5 days), spade, signal whistle, and a waterskin.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

Thank you, just need the others to do the same! :)


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Grappling bolt and silk rope. Discussing about the tents.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

Kevros 3 Grappling bolts and one length of 50 feet of silk rope?


M Human
Vitals/Stats:
Lv 2 Monk of the Lotus HP: 16/16, - AC: 15/T: 15/FF: 13 - Perception: +7 - Initiative: +5 - F: +5 / R: +4 (evasion)/ W: +6 - CMB: +3 (+5 grapple) - CMD: 18 (20 vs Grapple), Speed: 30
skills:
Acrobatics +5, Climb +6 , Diplomacy +3, Disable Device +5, Intimidate +6, Knowledge (history) +4 Knowledge (religion) +5, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Stealth +5

S'ala will grab the following gear to offse his existing:blanket, soap, torches (3), sacks (3), mirror, 5 trail rations, waterskin, spade, whistle. He'll take one mess kit. Additionally, he'll grab the deluxe dungeoneering kit, a healer kit, a climber kit, 2 coils of rope and the grappling hooks.

Someone should probably get the cooking gear and the tents (or pavilions).

Most of that stuff goes on the horse, very little to encumber. Since I have no armor, I'm guessing the beast can carry it.


Female Aasimar Paladin
Info:
Lv 2 HP: 20/27, - AC: 18/T: 12/FF: 16 - Perception: +3 - Initiative: +2 - F: +12/ R: +7/ W: +8 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 18, Speed: 20

Let's see...I'll take a mess kit, and a dungeoneering kit. Not sure if there's multiples of the kits or not but that's what I'd like. Also take a grappling hook and one of the tents. What size are they?


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Kevros 3 Grappling bolts and one length of 50 feet of silk rope, and a tent please.

Notating to inventory.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

Multiples are available. The tents fit two comfortably.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

Masota are you grabbing a deluxe or common dungeoneering kit?

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

S'ala make sure you make notes in your crunch about your mount, what your mount is carrying, and what you are carrying. I don't see the kits in your crunch. Everyone else needs to make sure you do the same with your crunches. How many grappling hooks do you have?


Female Aasimar Paladin
Info:
Lv 2 HP: 20/27, - AC: 18/T: 12/FF: 16 - Perception: +3 - Initiative: +2 - F: +12/ R: +7/ W: +8 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 18, Speed: 20

Only two tents that fit two people? Guess S'ala will have to sleep in the rain. Oh well.

I'll just take a basic kit. Don't want to be too indebted to Stalker and I feel like a torch that you can't turn off would be more of a headache than anything.

Oh and just remember this but...what happened to the wizard?

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

You haven't seen the wizard since the first day.


M Human
Vitals/Stats:
Lv 2 Monk of the Lotus HP: 16/16, - AC: 15/T: 15/FF: 13 - Perception: +7 - Initiative: +5 - F: +5 / R: +4 (evasion)/ W: +6 - CMB: +3 (+5 grapple) - CMD: 18 (20 vs Grapple), Speed: 30
skills:
Acrobatics +5, Climb +6 , Diplomacy +3, Disable Device +5, Intimidate +6, Knowledge (history) +4 Knowledge (religion) +5, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Stealth +5

i added the items individually to my crunch rather than as a kit. i can re-do if you like. will add notes about the mount and load later today. i took 2 grappling hooks. If there's no other tent, S'ala will make due. If there is, I will load one also.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

S'ala will grab another tent. Either way so that I can see the equipment and where it is stored: on person, on mount, in backpack, etc. Thank you S'ala.
Now we should be moving on, if nothing else be needed done in town you move on to the passing post, where the wizard waits for you.


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Sorry for the delay today. I worked a double shift Thursday, slept pretty much all day, and I have an important event to attend to tonight so it may not be until tomorrow (Sat) I can post.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

That is fine, I don't expect much posting tonight.

Silver Crusade

Nearly Gods Upper and lower

S'ala has a light horse, speed 50 ft., any barding?

Kevros has a heavy warhorse, with studded leather barding, speed 40 ft.
Your horses AC is too high, I believe it should be a 16?

Masota Heavy warhorse, speed 35 ft. shouldn't it be 30? hide barding.

Angeus light riding horse, speed 50 ft., no barding.

Quince Light Warhorse, speed 50 ft., no barding.

Saren riding lizard, speed 40 ft., no barding.
Stalker Gray horse, speed 50 ft., studded leather barding.
Narcissa light riding horse, speed 50 ft., no barding.
Alkron/wizard light riding horse, speed 50 ft. no barding. Did I get anything wrong?


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Masota should not have any problems with keeping her horse at 40 feet, speaking in real life terms, that should only be a trot and a horse can basically trot all day if the environment is good. Stopping for water will definitely increase the likelihood. The horse's ability to trot all day was one of the reasons why it was the preferred method of travel until vehicular travel became popular.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horses_in_warfare#Heavy-weight
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/animals/horse/heavy-horse

Given the above ...

AC 18 = (+3 Armor, +4 Dex, +2 Nat Armor, -1 Size, Base 10)

Perception Check: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (14) + 6 = 20


M Human
Vitals/Stats:
Lv 2 Monk of the Lotus HP: 16/16, - AC: 15/T: 15/FF: 13 - Perception: +7 - Initiative: +5 - F: +5 / R: +4 (evasion)/ W: +6 - CMB: +3 (+5 grapple) - CMD: 18 (20 vs Grapple), Speed: 30
skills:
Acrobatics +5, Climb +6 , Diplomacy +3, Disable Device +5, Intimidate +6, Knowledge (history) +4 Knowledge (religion) +5, Perception +7, Sense Motive +7, Stealth +5

No barding on S'ala's horse (though it sounds as if I may wish there was).


Female Aasimar Paladin
Info:
Lv 2 HP: 20/27, - AC: 18/T: 12/FF: 16 - Perception: +3 - Initiative: +2 - F: +12/ R: +7/ W: +8 - CMB: +6 - CMD: 18, Speed: 20

Pretty sure it should be 35. At least going by what I saw on the SRD. Heavy horse has a speed of 50 and it says medium barding would drop that to 35. Don't know if I want to push the horse though. It seems unnecessary and mean. And the last thing I need is my own horse gossiping behind my back with Quince the horse whisperer about how heavy I am.


Male Kitsune
Vital Stats/Skills:
HP: 88/88 (92/92), - AC: 34/T: 14/FF: 24 – Perception +15 - Initiative: +6 - F: +17 / R: +13/ W: +17 (15) - CMB: +14 (16) - CMD: 30, Speed: 40, Acrobatics +15
Oracle (Curse: Tongues)
Other:
Diplomacy +22 (24 Fey), Handle Animal +15, Kn. Geography +12, Kn. History +11, Kn. Religion +11, Prof. Cartographer +10, Ride +19, Sense Motive +14, Spellcraft +16, Survival +12

Lol


Half-Elven Male Adult
Vitals:
HP:50/50 | AC:21 | T:15 | FF:17 | Low-Light Vision | Perception:(+16) | Initiative:+7 | F:+6 | R:+6 | W:+6 | CMB:+9 | CMD:24 | Speed:30 | Ammo:32/40 | V.Channel:4/4 | MF:5/5 | Spells:@/6/5 |
Skills:
Climb:+5 | Craft (weap):+4 | Diplo:+7 | H.Animal:+8 | Know.(nature, religion):+8 | Prof (soldier):+6 | Ride:+8 | S.Motive:+7 | S.Craft:+8 | Stealth:+7 | Surv:+7 | Swim:+5(+4 Str,+6 Dex,+2 Int,+2 Wis,+3 Cha)

Masota, pushing the horse only 5 feet is not unnecessary and mean in real life. Again, that would be compared to a slow trot and horses can trot all day. Your arse will give up the ghost long before the horse ... LOL. When you start to canter and gallop, that is a different story. The horse whisperer should be able to tell you that as well ... ;-)

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