According to our spreadsheet, New Hope has a jail, stockyard, barracks, and stable. For now I vote our next improvement is either a mill (6 BP), which is +economy, +stability, and +productivity for the city. If we get some bad unrest though we might do a shrine (8 BP), which is +1 loyalty, -1 unrest, generates a minor magic item (1 minor potion, scroll, or wondrous item).
We should go for the mill and a house, that should counteract the recent rise of unrest. Be we also need to start looking at building up our military. If we can claim the fangberry thickets, next turn we could put a farm their. If I'm right that'll give us enough BP overflow to recruit a small army, enough of one at least to send to survey the land around here.
If we can delegate some of the exploration to an offscreen Army that should help us identify what's around and plan future expansion as well as possible sites of interest.
Also looking at the map, we should think about building a road to Bokken's trading post, hopefully that'll help establish our economy by giving us a route for trade.
Yeah, I've been advocating for expanding along the trade route north since the start. Though, if Bokken continues to be a tool bag, we may have to do something. Still, the trade lifeline to Brevoy would be good.
I agree with the need to start fortifying and organizing an army. That will require trustworthy officers... maybe we can advertise for some help from the surrounding nations?
Seres, in his role as magister, can also work on developing a coven of spell casters. It will be a more occult and spontaneous affair, perhaps with some fey involvement.
I've added a Kingdom Turn History on the campaign page to better track your decisions.
We're currently at the beginning of the fourth turn - Erastus 4710. There has been discussion of claiming the Fangberry Thicket hex and building a mill and house. Does anyone disagree? Will you make any terrain improvements this round?
What role will Raff play in the kingdom?
I like Larisa's suggestion -- fired from her post as Marshal, which Raff can take up appropriately.
I agree with being fired. Not convinced about Royal Enforcer. We will work that out in campaign. Slowly crafting my response to the inputs.
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Doting in, I'm willing to fill any roll the kingdom needs. Just point and Raff will do.
Stability Check: 37
Claim Hexes: Fangberry Thicket (-1 BP)
Build Terrain Improvements: Road from New hope north (-1 BP)
Create/Improve Settlements: Mill and House (-6 BP and -3 BP)
The map has been updated with the new boundary and road.
Someone please roll an economy check.
Is the spreadsheet up to date?
Yes, it should be current.
Someone please make a stability check. Will you claim a hex? What terrain and settlement improvements will you make?
BP 17-11(Construction)+8(Taxes)= 14
Here's what I think we should do:
Terrain Improvments
-Build a farm on the new hex (-2BP), it'll produce 3 Consumption BP to fule later growth.
-Keeping building the road north (-1BP)
Buildings
-Smithy (6BP) +1Economy +1Stabilty
-House (3BP)
Expenditure: 14-12= 2 BP left.
Edicts:
We will be producing enough spare BP to fund at least 1 Holiday a year, we should set it up as commemorating the founding of New Hope. We could use it as a way to distract the people after Larisa makes her speech and get them focusing on the good things we're trying to do for the nation.
Army and/or fortifications? We've mentioned that a few times in game.
At the moment we just don't have the funds.
If we want to keep expanding, we should build something to increase our Stability.
Build Terrain Improvements: Farm
Create/Improve Settlements: Smithy, House
Edict: +1 Holiday (The founding of New Hope)
Someone roll an economy check please.
This month you receive alarming news from Jax that a chaotic evil religious cult dedicated to Yog-Sothoth has begun kidnapping, converting and publicly sacrificing New Hope citizens.
Please attempt a Loyalty check and a Stability check to attempt to disband the cult.
NO consumption, we're actually producing too much food atm.
All right with the transition of the kingdom building to the players I don't mind taking an active approach with updating the spreadsheet and getting involved with it. Civ builder RPG's are my bread and butter so I am more than happy to play kingdom builder, with that said let's see what we've got going on here.
Treasury-11BP
Unrest at 0 so +1BP. 12BP
No Consumption.
Any ides what we should do? I think we have more than enough stability to take another hex.
Can't think of any we need right now.
With our BP we really should look at increasing our economy and stability. To that end we should just build another Mill and House this turn. We can fluff as processing our massive amount of extra food we're producing.
Mill (6BP) + House(3BP) = 9-12 = 3BP left.
None I can think of.[/ooc]
No withdrawals or Deposits to make I assume.
Taxes, yay!!!
27/3= +9BP Next turn.
What does everyone think?
Unfamiliar with Kingdom building, but just skimming it all makes me think this all looks good.
If everyone else is okay with this I'll put this into the ledger tomorrow.
Looks good to me.
Do we want to claim any territory? I was wondering if we could get another Roll 20 map up specifically for the kingdom.
We should claim the old bridge hex (-1BP) then build a farm (-2BP). It'll eat all of the BP until the 9 from taxes rolls in.
I agree... working a safe area up to the trading post.
Alright I'll add it on the sheet.
Treasury- 9BP
No unrest, +1BP, 10BP in Treasury
No Consumption.
We should hold off claiming anything just yet until we build a road and fishery in our new hex.
We should build a road (-1BP) to keep making our way towards the trading post. That leaves 9BP.
Because we have 9BP we should build a library (-6BP +1 Economy, +1 Loyalty), it'll upgrade to an academy and university both buildings give nice discounts on magic buildings down the line so it's a good investment for the future and a house (-3BP). Empty treasury.
None I can think of.
No withdrawals or Deposits to make I assume.
It's the most wonderful time of the month again, tax time!
23/3=7 Ouch, not gettng alot done next turn.
Event type
Beneficial Settlement Event, yes!
Remarkable Treasure, no open slots so Unexpected find triggers.
Unexpected Find (Settlement): Local citizens discover a forgotten magical item. The settlement gains one temporary minor (01—70) or medium (71—100) magic item slot that is automatically filled in the next Upkeep phase. This slot and the item go away if the item is purchased or in the next Event phase, whichever comes first.
Minor slot.
Just letting everyone know what I'm planning with the kingdom building. I want to get a turn done every week give or take a few days. My current idea is to propose my ideas for that turns activities, if it get's thumbs up I'll enter it into the sheet. If it doesn't get any activity for a few days I'll take the initiative and put it into the sheet and carry the turn forward. I'll keep doing this until either the party wants me to stop or the DM is needed to adjudicate something. Each turn I'll put in justifications for why I'm doing what I'm doing so the party knows what my process is.
I've also outlined the old bridge hex for now to remind myself what we've taken.
No more hexes north of the shrike until we work out the treaty, though.
Question is, does thst include the hexes that the shrike goes through? I say those are fair game, tbh.
What do we need to start building a military?
Turn per week seems fine to me. I'll inject with strategic objectives above, but defer details to you.
BTW, are we done with the "last day in the cell" scenario?
Sounds good to me.
Purely from an RP perspective, Veronica would start to agitate for a shrine to Erastil soon.
Yeah, pretty sure we've wrapped up the last day in the cell scenario. These turns are one month long so I assume we'll have sorted out which hexes we can settle be then.
For a military we need to either have enough consumption to offset the cost of having the army or enough BP coming in per turn from taxes to keep them. We almost have enough to keep a force of 100 lvl 1's which would cost 4 BP a turn to keep, at the moment we're making 3 more BP in consumption than we can use.
Veronica, we can build a shrine next turn since we're going to get a lot of BP anyway it makes sense.
I agree, clearing the ancient shrine may be of greater value to the community than building another one, but it looks like it's a bit far off (it's the Temple of the Elk, right?). May need one close to home as well, depending on how religious we wish to be.
That's the issue, it's so far away that it really should be its own settlement, but we are not ready to commit to making another town yet.
Yeah, wisps are bad news, especially since I don't think we have a lot of magic missile firepower.
If i remember right, it had a ridic AC and damage out put. We struggled mightily.
Also, 2nd level at the time.
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It seemed much stronger than a normal whisp. I seem to recall spell like abilities. And it did think itself a god. And even run of the mill whisps have great ACs. We would do better against it now, but I am still not sure we are up to the challenge. Some way to do force damage would be nice. I suspect we could get a spiritual weapon or two on it, but those still have to hit. And since they are not fast it could simply outrun them.
Some resistance to or protection from electricity would help greatly.
Yes, definitely electrical protection.
I feel we owe it to ourselves and our religion to eventually clear that thing out. But we should be smart about it.
Also, it was preaching Great Old One crap and isnt the Stag Lord's guy doing the same? Maybe a hiding place for him? Just a random thought.
Well, I can do half of the work - I can throw communal resist energy on the party to give everyone electrical resistance for a fight. If Seres is still around and can get his hands on a wand of magic missiles it might be doable, but there is the problem of it potentially just running away if we start winning. Also Seres would need to be able to see invisible.
We could go at it with some sacks of flour in hand. Fairy fire could work too if we can find a druid, no save.
One week down another turn comes around.
Treasury 7BP
Unrest at 0, +1 BP
Treasury 8BP
No Consumption.
For now we should hold off claiming anything
We want to build a shrine with this turn so their isn't anything we can really do here for now.
Shrine time! (-8BP +1 Loyalty, -1 Unrest, has a nice upgrade path and starts making magic items)
Again, none I can think of.
No withdrawals or Deposits to make I assume.
The only that's certain in this world is death and taxes, though with raise dead around I guess that leaves taxes.
10BP for next turn
Yes
Event type
Dangerous Kingdom Event
Smugglers
Hooray! The smugglers were caught and dealt with before any harm could come to the kingdom.
I was thinking about laws and some specific ones we might need to discuss. We can hand wave the standard, living in a U.S. city ones ... right? Stealing, murder, kidnapping, graffiti, assault etc.
I was thinking more about the fae and any potential partners, allies. If we end up partnering with the kobolds (post Chief Sootscale), we need to have rules for interacting with them based on the treaty we sign ... like not crossing the river without some sort of diplomatic note or other permission.
Same with the fae ... we need to avoid another incident like the river girl and the lumberjacks. Perhaps an edict of things to remember and do. Like recompense for invconvenience, taking gifts, providing aid when requested, hunting only for food - no poaching or trapping/skinning, no logging or dams, and consequences for violating those.
I agree, maybe we can combine it with some monuments with the laws on them?
One more week, one more turn. As always feel free to offer up ideas for future projects.
Treasury 10BP
No unrest, +1BP
Treasury 11BP
No consumption
Still no hexes to claim
We should finish of the hex with a fishery (-4BP, +1 Consumption BP), it'll give us the ability to support an army of 100 lvl 1's.
With the remaining 7BP we should build a Dance hall (-4BP, +1 Eco +2 Loyalty +1 Unrest) and a house (-3BP, -1 Unrest to cancel the effects of the dance hall)
Again, none I can think of.
No withdrawals, not that there's anything to withdraw.
Taxes!
9 BP for next turn, not quite what I was hoping for but it'll get better in time.
No event
I'll leave it up to the group to decide if we want to recruit anything this turn.