Fair point, a wand it is.
So, barring anything unfortunate happening, we should be able to get to the wall. But, some stealth would probably be wise. I've got daze, ghost sound, and sleep, which can all aid in getting there, but aren't stealth enhancers in any way. What do others have?
Hopefully OGGM wasn't exaggerating when he said that they don't pay any attention to the hillside.
What about getting over the wall? The centipede pit was problematic for some of us. Climber's kit? Potions of monkey fish? Seven potions are 350 gp, but we'll get that discount from Bokken.
<ahem> I happen to be a cleric.
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And Dregan doesn't have to say anything. Remember the catcalls and jeers from the walls? Someone saw you! The aspiring playwright perhaps?
Was hoping someone would catch the connection to Talia's background!
One scroll of spider climb and a knotted rope should do the trick.
On a cloudy night...
That's a point - with his darkvision, Kaalib could rely on night time to put a rope there, hidden against the wood (or even a series of ropes, one for each of us); with the benefit of the Hide from Undead spell (clerical or wandly) we could then make a dawn assault up the hill they aren't watching and get over the wall before they even notice.
Thoughts?
If Naralesh cast invisibility on me, I'd have a +30 to my stealth score. Knotted ropes with a wall are DC 0 for climb checks.
Good thinking! And, even without invisibility, all the bandits we've encountered so far have been humans, so I'd think Kaalib will have a distinct advantage in the dark.
Also, we can bring Asha? Sweet! If she's second level, that should about cover everyone (2 1st level spells and probably 1 bonus spell, each of which cover 2 people a casting). If she's been leveling like us and is third level, then we can get everyone (3 1st level spells including the bonus for wisdom, covering 3 people each casting). Otherwise, we may need to buy a potion of hide undead (50 gp).
Thoughts on what other gear we'll need? CLW potions? Splash weapons for those of us without AoE?
EDIT: I've messaged OGGM about this, but I should probably say for the planning purposes that I'll be out of the country at the end of next week and thus not in a position to post, so Talia may be in the background for much of the fight. It is a little metagamey, but she could pass of the CLW wand to Magna or Dregan, or Asha if she goes over the wall with us. Edric I suppose can't use it.
I intend to get the following:
- Alchemist's fire
- Smokesticks (stop the archers from picking us off)
- Tanglefoot bags
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EDIT: I've messaged OGGM about this, but I should probably say for the planning purposes that I'll be out of the country at the end of next week and thus not in a position to post, so Talia may be in the background for much of the fight. It is a little metagamey, but she could pass of the CLW wand to Magna or Dregan, or Asha if she goes over the wall with us. Edric I suppose can't use it.
On a similar note at some random point in the next 5 weeks my wife will be giving birth. I am hoping that I'll have time to get on and warn people when it starts but I don't know.
Great news! Good luck and congratulations!
That is good news! Best wishes to you and yours.
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Treasure rewards: Taking into account selling the loot from the claw treestump and Wyrmsbane crossing, as well as Talia's longsword and Magna's scale mail, we've got 1827 gp coming to us (261 gp per person). We've also got a masterwork longbow and 6 animal bane arrows coming - who wants them?
Edric will be interested in a new longbow - either the MW one or the +3 comp one Dregan sold off a while back to Oleg, he'll take the arrows too if the resident scout doesn't want them.
I'll have to do some planning about which ones, but Naralesh is going to want to stock up on scrolls - he doesn't want to run out of spells during a prolonged fight with the bandits. He can craft them himself, if he buys the required ink and reagents from Oleg.
Not sure about infiltration, unless it's just to get the gate open and then attack. Anything longer-term relies on 2 Paladins being able to lie consistently for a period of time. What happens if we see the bandits torturing a helpless prisoner? Or if they invite us to join in?
I'd prefer to use Dregan's idea and go over the wall at night with Hide Undead masking us, myself. We'll better have the surprise and catch a lot of folks asleep. If / when the alarm gets raised, we'll still have some time and they'll be disorganized. And if we get lucky, we could do substantial damage, maybe even take out the Stag Lord, before there's any sizable resistance put forth.
Front gate infiltration:
Pros:
- we know the password
- can walk up and through the defenses
Cons:
- bad guys will know we are there
- maybe Magna, Talia, Dregan or Naralesh will be remembered from the fight at the first bandit camp. Maybe Talia or Dregan is recognized from the scouting attempt at the fort more recently.
- maybe the password has changed (it has been about a month in gametime)
Back door infiltration:
Pros:
- bad guys don't watch that approach
- if we go at night, most bad guys are asleep
Cons:
- maybe zombies don't get affected by hide undead?
If we get the Hide Undead spell (with Asha or scrolls) seems like a good idea.
Magna has darkvision, so she doesn't need light to do it.
Technically speaking, no one needs Darkvision to assault the fort. The worst you would be in is Low Light with the stars out. In reality, there are varying levels of Low Light at night outdoors depending on the phase of the moon, cloud cover etc. If you note the calendar, it does show phases of the moon...very helpful in this situation.
Quest rewards:
For the fangberries: 25% discount on potions from Bokken
For 'solving' the kobold problem: 800 gp from Rostov
For the 2 tatzlwurm heads: 1200 gp from Oleg
For Tuskgutter's head: MW longbow and 6 +1 animal bane arrows
That leaves the ring and Falgrim Sneed as the last quests in the area.
On a similar note at some random point in the next 5 weeks my wife will be giving birth. I am hoping that I'll have time to get on and warn people when it starts but I don't know.
Congrats, Dregan! Best luck to you and yours.
LOOT: including rewards and selling things off, we've got 346 gp, 7 sp, 1 cp a share. MW longbow goes to Edrick, animal bane arrows up for grabs. Included in the money above is money from selling Talia's longsword and Mag's scale mail.
I'm not too worried about about the arrows, maybe share them out to everyone that has a bow so we can get them in a target quickly should we need to.
Oh and has anyone checked the explorer's map and compared it to ours. Is there anything we can Add to ours?
Grats Dregan! This your first?
Yeah (:
Congratulations! Very exciting! :)
Naralesh is going to scribe scrolls of the following spells, spending a total of 325 gp:
- 4x mage armor (CL 1st, 50 gp total)
- 2x shield (CL 1st, 25 gp total)
- 2x enlarge person (CL 1st, 25 gp total)
- 3x summon monster II (CL 3rd, 225 gp total)
I'd also like to know - is it possible for us to get to 4th level before the siege?
Oh and has anyone checked the explorer's map and compared it to ours. Is there anything we can Add to ours?
On which point: Talia, is there a way you could indicate on our map where the rivers are crossable? There's the ford where we killed the Tatzlwyrms, for example, and the shallows we found later. We're going to want to make sure those places are defended once we have our kingdom.
More immediately, shopping!:
2 tanglefoot bags (100 gp)
2 smokesticks (40 gp)
On which point: Talia, is there a way you could indicate on our map where the rivers are crossable? There's the ford where we killed the Tatzlwyrms, for example, and the shallows we found later. We're going to want to make sure those places are defended once we have our kingdom.
I'm sure I can figure something out! I'll get notations up this week.
Good stuff.
So, does anyone have plans for the week? Or are we just hand-waving it?
In any event, here is where I think we were on the plan of attack:
1) Asha casts Hide From Undead on everyone.
2) Naralesh casts Invisibility on Kaalib
3) Kaalib sneaks up and ties knotted ropes on the rear wall of the fort.
4) Everyone climbs up knotted ropes.
5) Assault fort under cover of night, kill Stag Lord and assorted bandits, dispose of zombies.
6) Profit!
Any embellishments gladly entertained.
We'll need a potion or scroll of monkey fish for Kaalib to get up the wall. Talia will add it to her list of purchases.
Magna will also contribute.
This is an expendable used for the party it should be paid out of part funds. I've equally but all of us (not that it is much)
Tell ya what. Since 7 doesn't go evenly into 50, everyone pitch in 5 gp and Talia will pick up the rest. I just didn't want to re-figure everyone's share, and it isn't much money to her as she's been hoarding. Remember when Kesten talked her out of buying a house?
Works for me, thanks! 5 gp deducted in loot sheet.
I can just add it to the spread sheet, effectively take it out of our next income. Additionally the cost is only 37.5gp since we have 25% discount on potions.
Heh, forgot about the discount - that works for me, Dregan!
Spend the money, update your sheets. You won't make 4th before this fight, so prepare accordingly.
When you are ready, let me know by setting out. Then describe the plan and I will get this going. I don't suppose I need to tell you that this is the last part of the first book!
I should add that I have built Asha and Kesten in Herolab, but I will move them to here when I figure out how!
Awesome!
To build off of the plan everyone has put forward so far, I'd like to suggest this plan of action:
1. Asha casts hide undead, we all mosey up to the wall under cover of darkness.
2. Kaalib quaffs a potion of Monkey Fish, climbs the wall and then secures and drops off a knotted rope.
3. Order up the rope: Magna/Edrick (ranged blocker in case Kaalib is seen), then Dregan (can provide ranged cover if we're seen, and maybe take out bad guys before they get to us; Nara can provide ranged cover from the ground), then the other of Mags/Edrick, then Vosil (can put that 15' reach to use), then Nara, then Talia (alternatively, since I'll probably be out of town when the assault begins, Talia can stay behind to cover you all if you have to retreat, if OGGM doesn't want to bot her). Asha goes up if OGGM wants her involved. If Talia stays behind, she'll be sure to hand off the clw wand to Dregan or Magna.
4. Once at the top of the wall, try to take out as many bandits without raising the alarm as possible. Talia has sleep, Dregan/Nara/Edrick with coordinated ranged attacks (3 arrows should be enough to put any down). Perhaps even if they are close enough, bandits can be bull-rushed off the wall.
5. If we are successful at taking out the guard without raising the alarm, try and guess where the Stag Lord is and sneak in and wack him first, then offer others surrender or death, individually if possible.
1-5a. If at some point we're discovered, shock and awe. Ranged fire, summons, grease spells, alchemist's fire, the whole shabang - especially when the Stag Lord makes her/himself known.
Hi all - internet connection has died (it's just one damn thing after another at the moment). Posting from my phone is fine but intermittent.
Apologies. Should be back up in 5 working days, apparently.
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Edric can likely go head-to-head with anyone the bandits have as long as he can land a Smite on them, if Magna backs him up with Weals Champion and they can get a good defensive position then the entire camp could probably break on them.
On the other hand killing the Stag Lord in his bed will be a good idea if we get the chance....
So Talia was out, Vosil isn't 'feeling connected', and Dregan just had his first child. Pretty busy, if you ask me. Should we wait a bit? We can certainly RP through the plan until we have everyone. Is everyone in agreement with how it is laid out by Talia above?
In agreement
As much as I'd love to be in this fight, please don't hold of until the 10th on my account. That's a long ways off.
All, I have to leave the country.
For work, no worries! But I will be gone until this weekend. A little unexpected, and because I don't think I'll have time for my games while away, I'm posting this before I head to the airport.
Good luck!
I hope the police doesn't get to you!
Glad to hear everything's fine. We'll be patiently waiting.
Sorry Naralesh it doesn't look like I'll get time to put together a character for your game. I've got a concept I like but I don't have time with the baby coming to devote to a put it all together and then play an extra new game. I hope it goes well.
I'm back! Just got in late last night, so will get back to everything tomorrow.
Sorry Naralesh it doesn't look like I'll get time to put together a character for your game. I've got a concept I like but I don't have time with the baby coming to devote to a put it all together and then play an extra new game. I hope it goes well.
I think you've got your priorities straight. Thanks for the interest! :)