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James' Carrion Crown

Game Master Ghastlee

A scream in the night, a claw in your back..

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So here's where we can roll stats and shoot the shoot.

Works for me.

So I will let you guys do your rolling here, since John's vote got beaten out - 4d6 dropping lowest. The format is below

[dice ]1d20 + 3; 1d6 + 2[ /dice] This is a dice expression, just remove the space within each bracket

4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 6, 4) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 4, 1) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (2, 6, 1, 3) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 2, 5) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (6, 1, 3, 1) = 11
4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 2, 3) = 10

Another hint: Don't roll like that :S

Well just testing to see if my account created Properly. But yes those are horrible rolls.

I am tempted to Roll first but want to figure out class's and what not first I am sure. I am partial to a monk myself but am open to whatever.

Roll away sir! I'm planning on using strain/injury rules for hp so there's not necessarily a need for a dedicated healer.

If i roll a 3 in a stat its totally going into intelligence and i am roleplaying as such.

If anyone rolls a 3, I'mma mess with the numbers for sure.

Alright, here we go (and yes, this is my alternate avatar for my character for this campaign! Now you know what you are in for. :)

4d6, dropping the lowest.

Screenshot of my rolls:

4d6 = (4, 4, 6, 6) = 16
4d6 = (5, 4, 5, 6) = 15
4d6 = (3, 6, 6, 3) = 15
4d6 = (4, 5, 4, 2) = 13
4d6 = (3, 4, 5, 2) = 12
4d6 = (5, 4, 4, 5) = 14

That second roll should be a 16 sir!

I like the definitions heh

So figured I'd get it out of the way just going to paste rolls in here, I can provide screen shot of the site rolls if you want, also incluuded what I rolled with physical dice just for roller is a bit more balanced, but 17's are always fun :P

Physical Dice

Okay, missed one then. 16, 16, 15, 13, 12, 14.

I'll use the definitions in future. Also, if you need a place to "host" character sheets I can do it through my site. Otherwise, we can just post them here.

You have your own site? Was just gonna have them posted here but the formatting may be a bit ugly. If there's an online version you use we could post there that would work. Those physical rolls aren't too extreme so you can use 'em if you like

So it occurs to me I haven't posted a lot of info about character creation so here you go:

Any core race and any class (from any source, but be aware I'm not familiar with most non-core classes/archetypes)
first level
One Carrion Crown trait and one other trait from any (shudder) splatbook if you want
Average wealth for first level

please include a short (one or two paragraph) background possibly including info about your campaign trait as well as one enemy and one ally from your character's past that may or may not enter into the campaign.

Also feel free to mesh backstories if you wanna start as a bit more of a party.

Lastly, I was going to say the party can decide the alignment, but I'll use the tried and true "NO EVILS ALLOWED"

(this is not subject to the NO HOMERS clause)

Ok so i used that same site and got
2 - 2 - 2 - 6 (Avg: 3.0)

6 - 6 - 3 - 6 (Avg: 5.25)

6 - 4 - 1 - 6 (Avg: 4.25)

5 - 4 - 5 - 3 (Avg: 4.25)

4 - 6 - 4 - 2 (Avg: 4.0)

6 - 2 - 1 - 4 (Avg: 3.25)

(Total avg: 4.00)
Thats a nice round number
Looks like intell wont be 1 and not even below normal. Its a shame.

Final stats 18-16-14-14-12-10

Well now ill have to impose a 'no starting stat above 18' rule too ... Jeezuz

Also we're playing in Golarion so if you're going to play a (faithful) type, bear that in mind.

Hmm i am not 100% set on the monk class yet as i am now looking at different class and archetypes but i will be focusing on a damage class of some kind if that counts for anything.


So many choices. Still debating really. Might still do monk or human fighter with two handed weapon. WIll see what i can come up with

Gnome barbarian!

I am leaning towards fighter over Barbarian but could still be gnome ;)

I actually hate the small races... Tried to play one once, just wasn't believable.

Especially if its a gnome fighter with a two handed weapon with reach. NOt very belivable.

Its a ghost town on here lol At this rate might get started this year some time and finished by 2022 lol

Yeah :s well it IS the weekened..

Xabbu wrote:
Especially if its a gnome fighter with a two handed weapon with reach. NOt very belivable.

Well, not entirely unbeleivable when you use the math. Think of a single square on a battlemat - a 5 ft. square. A medium creature fits in that square and is using a polearm (for arguement's sake, lets make the polearm 7 feet long). We already know a medium creature can threaten a neighboring square (so, in essence, can strike something 5 feet away with a regular weapon, the maximum far edge of the neighbouring square). The polearm (a reach weapon) adds a little less than 7 feet to that (since you have to hold or wield it properly, (we'll say that takes 2 feet, so lets say it only adds 5 more feet of reach) for a total of 10 feet or so, or, up to two squares away.

Now, we do the same thing with a small sized creature. Still fills the 5 foot square and can threaten 5 feet away per the basic rules. No change there. Now, even if the polearm is smaller (lets make it half size, or 3 1/2 feet long.) Still needs to wield it (we'll take the 2 feet and half that, so 1 foot), so, extends his reach 2 1/2 feet or so. That's still 7 1/2 feet, so, still about midway into the 2nd square, so, still satisfying the reach rules and affecting an enemey two squares away just like a medium creautre doing the same.

Even if you were to play devil's advocate and cut everything in half (small creatures were to only threaten 2 1/2 feet away (or half a square) vs. a medium creature's normal 5 feet (1 square)), add the smaller polearm reach of 2 1/2 feet (minus the handling room of the 1 foot as before), you still get the minimum of 5 feet with the polearm which is one square away, but on the edge of the second square.

So, in essence, the small creature with a reach weapon averages between 5 and 7 1/2 feet of reach. If so, for arguement's sake, why not just have it be the same as a medum creature since there are no mechanics for threatening only half-a-square around you (instead of the one for all small and medium creatures normally do), and the math is not significantly different when rounding to 5 foot squares. Otherwise, what would be the point of a reach weapon for a small sized attacker? You're small and you can normally attack into the square beside you to hit an enemy, but with a reach weapon, you can still only attack into the square beside you?!? That seems FAR more unrealistic and unbelievable to me.

When things get smaller or larger, that's where the math gets wonky, so, that's why weapon sizes and reach range changes, as well as threatened squares. In essence, it seems logical to give the small guys the same benefit for reach as medium creatures, especially since small guys typically get peanlized with less damage due to smaller weapon sizes and lower physical stats anyway.

Besides, not very often someone even bothers with reach weapons. They really aren't that great (since you can't use most of them) with an enemy beside you, a 5-foot step covers the reach distance usually (something anyone can do and still full-attack), and using one through a friendly's space still grants a soft-cover AC bonus to the target. Waste of time if you ask me. Only good for setting to receive a charge or against mounts (which is what the whole purpose of them was historically anyhow).

The math may be sound but the image of a Gnome wielding a two handed weapon is what i cant belive. Sadly i cant get the image of my gnome warrior i had in wow who wileded two Two handed weapons, one in each hand. Its just too comical to work.

Well, technically, anyone wielding a pair of two-handed weapons, one in each hand, is comical and unbelievable if you ask me.

As for your gnome doing so in WoW, I have one thing to say to that...

For the Horde! -charge of armoured feet-


O gods... Numbers...

*watches the tumbleweeds roll by* Sure is Quiet in here.

YEAH I went away for a day or two...Let's get it rollin'! :D

*cricket chirp* *cricket chirp*
*faint whistle of the wind*

I'm gearing up - getting people to post asap cause I wanna kill..

I mean play now.

My PC is done and ready to go.
Victor Nivorski

Sweet! So we can use your site for the others too? Seems like a good sheet

Sure, can post them there if need be.

Not a sheet per say...just a template in Microsoft Word (based off of the monster format) which is then saved as a html document and uploaded to the server.

Being a Word Document, makes for easy updating as level-ups occur. Plus allows copy/paste straight from the paizo SRD.

Can make the template available to anyone if they want it and have a copy of Microsoft Word (2007 or later).

Well if I were still in the business of making characters I would.

Okay, made the template available for download if anyone has Word and wants to use it themselves. Just make the changes needed for your character, delete any lines or info that is not necessary for your character, and save. You can use my character (Viktor Nivorski) as a reference to give you a better idea on what you should change or delete when compared to the raw template to make it look all nice.

You can view a copy of the raw template here if you want to see it: View the Template

Otherwise, download the template in Word format here: Download Template

If anyone wants to use the template and then have their character hosted online (assuming you cannot host it yourself), you can email me your updated word document at and I will host it on my server as I did my own.

If it helps, you can also cut and paste things from the Pathfinder PRD which has all the info from the main core books.

Maybe, if enough people decide to use the template and/or post character sheets online, I might even get ambitious and make a webpage to house them all for everyone's use (no promises, depends on if I have the time or desire). If not, or no one else needs to use the template, no problem. Enjoy.

And now we play the waiting game.. ng-of#1

the game -

Sorry it took so long to put it all together.

Tov'Mei couldn’t tell you much about his early years even if he wanted to, but be assured he doesn’t want to. Shunned for most of life based on assumptions about his motives, assumptions based on little more than looks. Having isolated himself from most of society for long portions of his relatively short 69 years Tov'Mei learned to do what he had to taking jobs whenever he could and stealing (sometimes regrettably, sometimes gladly) whenever he couldn’t. Tov'Mei had always had an aptitude for "seeing" the inner workings of magic and engineering {Mathematical Prodigy} and was naturally drawn to magic, which helped him out of more than one tight spot. His Isolation also made him more likely to endeavour himself with things he could do alone, away from the judgemental eyes of the general populace, one of his favourite things to do was read and educate himself on various topics, which is what probably brought him to go to that lecture. He had heard about Professor Lorrimor of course, who hadn’t really, but too think that someone would take interest in his thoughts and actively pursue conversation on the land history, simply overwhelming{Teacher’s Pet}. It really was that chain of events that made Tov’Mei realize that at least some people weren’t deserving of the inevitable suffering that most ended up experiencing.

Since then Tov’Mei always looked forward to the correspondence that he shared with the professor, and always thought that maybe Lorrimor had singled him out to prove humanity wasn’t all bad, but having recently received word of the professor’s passing Tov’Mei decided that this would be the ultimate test. Professor Lorrimor had not shunned or looked upon the admittedly awkwardly put together blue skinned, silver eyed, 6'6, 175lb, tiefling sorcerer, with some decidedly frightening features (vestigial horns, knife-sharp teeth, and tail, let’s see what the people who the professor surrounded himself with would think and do…

Tov’Mei is chaotic neutral reflecting his understanding that law often a hindrance and sometimes you can’t afford to be good when the world hates you. He is a sorcerer with the abyssal bloodline, but has no idea how far back that comes from but it is several generations of that he is sure, also Tov’Mei doesn’t let that decide who he is, there is obviously a natural inclination to evil and chaos but has made sure to never let that dominate himself. As mentioned above he has deep blue almost purple skin, silver eyes, and very straight jet black hair that comes just past his shoulders though he usually wears it tied back. Also, and perhaps more jarring are the prominent features from his heritage a row of dagger like teeth, two symmetrical horns approx. 6 inches in length, and a long tail.

I'll link my character sheet tomorrow

Sounds good sir - should play out well, being a tiefling in Ustalav... heh - counteracts any party credibility from the paladin.

Counteracts...credibility...of the paladin....

Bah...might be an easy fix....
Can I SMITE him?


It just brings you back to neutral, that's all..heh

You can use a smite attempt on anyone, heh

No other PCs posted yet?? Come on peeps...

Hmm...I'm thinking the game might be dead before it has even started.

Thread started August 16th (34 days ago).
34 posts made in the first week (Aug 16 to Aug 23)
15 posts made since then (including this one) in the last 26 days.
No other posts made now for over a week since MY last one.
No new PCs posted yet by anyone else. One sounds possibly done but was never posted as claimed it would be (almost 2 weeks ago), so may not be ready afterall.

I'm thinking that if it takes over a month for people to make or post a PC, which we are talking 20-30 mins work at absolute most (it is level 1 for pete's sake), obviously people are not interested or dedicated to playing it would seem to me...which means most likely we are wasting our time here.

What does that say for how fast such a game would go? At this rate, might be 3 years before the first adventure is done. Hell, my tabletop games don't take that long playing three times every two months for a full six adventure paths...

Yep, pretty sure things are looking very bleak...

Yeah seems pretty quiet 'round here...

Well if you're willing to stay on a bit longer John I'm gonna do one last sweep - I have been hording three character sheets I'll send them to you this evening then we'll try to get this show on the road.

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