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Jade Regent, presented by DM Hamied - Campaign Thread

Game Master Hamied

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Hahaha. No conversation! How dare anyone have a different perspective than me and challenge my own!


I like it though. Good stuff. :D

Where else but a game could armed people have a calm discussion on philosophical points, while slogging through a swamp?

Well, better than having this conversation at the point of each other weapons later, hmm?

HP 45/45, AC- 18, Touch- 14, Flat- 14, CMD- 21, Fort- +6, Ref- +9, Will- +2, Percep- +7, Init- +4

Wouldn't come to that. Alazandaru has his own moral code and won't force it on others even if he thinks they are wrong- he'll have no part in killing the Goblin prisoners but won't take revenge if it happens.

Lisabett is not going to kill the goblins unless they actively threaten us. She is sure that Balor will do the job. She actually did not even strike a goblin, or do a single one harm. *laughs* What she doesn't understand is that you guys decided to offer them quarter when we were all down here on the assumption that we were going to wipe them off the face of golarian, without a clear plan as to how to deal with them. Thus the arguments...

No one told her that dealing with the goblins meant slaughtering all but two and then bringing them back to Sandpoint with us.

Awh darn. I just recognized that that face stealing monster wanted us to go south, and the zombies came from the south... We're totally going the wrong way!

Too many weeks between instances. I should keep a separate googledoc with plot points as a refresher.

Lisabett ran one goblin through with her spear, as I remember it.

Also, isn't the group heading back to Sandpoint?

Did she? She missed about everything else. Haha.

And yes, we're headed to Sandpoint. Where "south" is that the face stealin' monster was talking about... I do not know. I'm sorta discombobulated without even a basic map.

Just seemed to me that we're going the wrong way to find out what's really going on with this story. OOC, of course :P

Lisabett's spear kill

Nothing wrong with regrouping in town. That is, unless the undead hordes murder innocents between now and then, but thus are the weighty decisions of adventurers!

I'm just being a jerk.

Yes! Brinestump Marsh is intentionally confusing, as written up in the AP. That nobody in Sandpoint has mapped it is not just me being lazy. Of course, my getting to look at my own GM map and make assumptions based off what I know doesn't help, so there are probably gaps I can fill without making the layout of the swamp entirely known.

Also, play won't always be so encounter heavy. The swamp is a nasty place.

I was just thinking earlier how this is the first time our characters have really interacted with each other in quite a while. I'd almost forgotten that the NPCs exist.

Will be nice to get to know the group again :)

Welcome to Level 2!

When you're ready, go ahead and roll your hit die. If the result is less than 1/2, you may reroll it (as many times as needed to reach 1/2 or higher).

Also, please post the skills/spells/feats you are taking.

HP 45/45, AC- 18, Touch- 14, Flat- 14, CMD- 21, Fort- +6, Ref- +9, Will- +2, Percep- +7, Init- +4


I would like to get a way to add dexterity to my damage, eventually. I really hate scimitars thematically and I also hate that the Dawnflower Dervish (along with all the Sarenrae worship that Paizo seems to like to encourage) is the only way to gain such a important advantage. Is there any chance that you could home brew up a similar feat for daggers? If not, i'll make use of the Agile weapon property, i'd just rather it was something Alazandaru could do by virtue of being awesome rather than by virtue of enchanting his weapon in a certain manner.

Taking a level of Urban Barbarian.- Link

1d12 ⇒ 11 HP

Making changes to Alazandaru now on Herolab.

Any chance we could get the chain shirt resized for Alazandaru, thats a fine set of armour for him...

HP 45/45, AC- 18, Touch- 14, Flat- 14, CMD- 21, Fort- +6, Ref- +9, Will- +2, Percep- +7, Init- +4

Scratch the above- while the controlled rage is great for Alazandaru hes not really the Barbaric type.

1d8 ⇒ 1

1d8 ⇒ 1

1d8 ⇒ 6

Let me think on it. I'm generally against homebrew mechanics, though some of Paizo's recent feats make me wonder why I'm conservative about that stuff. I will say this now: Dervish Dance is somewhat hindered by the fact that you need a free hand to benefit from it. A similar mechanic would hinder your TWF.

I will get back to you.

It's possible to resize the shirt, but it will take a skilled blacksmith to do it, and it likely won't be free of material cost.

Male Human (Varisian) Paladin of Shelyn (Warrior of the Holy Light) 3

Ah, leveling; it's like popcorn for the soul.

Hp roll 1d10 ⇒ 2

Hp roll 1d10 ⇒ 10

Well that worked out nicely. That adds 12 to Sorin's hp. He gains Divine Grace and Lay on Hands but no new feats.

I've updated everything on his character sheet in my profile.

HP 45/45, AC- 18, Touch- 14, Flat- 14, CMD- 21, Fort- +6, Ref- +9, Will- +2, Percep- +7, Init- +4

Male Human (Varisian) Rogue (Knife Master, Scout) 2
CG Medium Humanoid (Human)
Init +4; Senses Perception +6
AC 17, touch 14, flat-footed 13. . (+3 armor, +4 Dex)
hp 18 (2d8+4)
Fort +2, Ref +7, Will +1
Defensive Abilities Evasion
Spd 30 ft.
Melee Cestus +5 (1d4+1/19-20/x2) and
. . Cestus +5 (1d4+1/19-20/x2) and
. . Dagger +6 (1d4+2/19-20/x2) and
. . Dagger +6 (1d4+2/19-20/x2) and
. . Unarmed Strike +5 (1d3+1/20/x2)

Conditional- +1 to dagger damage on first hit due to whetstoning

Special Attacks Sneak Attack +1d8/+1d4
Str 12, Dex 18, Con 14, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 10
Base Atk +1; CMB +2; CMD 16
Feats Rogue Weapon Proficiencies, Two-weapon Fighting, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus: Dagger
Traits Childhood Crush: Ameiko (1/day) (Ex), River Rat (marsh or river)
Skills Acrobatics +8, Bluff +4, Climb +0, Diplomacy +4, Disable Device +9, Escape Artist +8, Fly +3, Knowledge (Local) +6, Linguistics +5, Perception +6, Ride +3, Sense Motive +6, Sleight of Hand +8, Stealth +8, Swim +5
Languages Common, Goblin, Tien, Varisian
SQ Hidden Blade +1, Trapfinding +1
Combat Gear Cestus, Cestus, Dagger (5), Dagger, Studded Leather; Other Gear Backpack, Masterwork (5 @ 12.5 lbs), Bag, Waterproof (empty), Bedroll, Blanket, Caltrops (2), Crowbar, Grappling bolt, Grappling hook, Pouch, belt (5 @ 9.5 lbs), Thieves' tools, Whetstone, Wrist sheath, spring loaded (2)
Childhood Crush: Ameiko (1/day) (Ex) - 0/1
Dagger - 0/5
Dagger - 0/1
Childhood Crush: Ameiko (1/day) (Ex) Gain crush's favor & +1 to saves(DC15 Cha check). +1 vs foe threatening them.
Evasion (Ex) If you succeed at a Reflex save for half damage, you take none instead.
Hidden Blade +1 +1 bonus on Slight of Hand checks to conceal a light blade.
Sneak Attack +1d8/+1d4 +1d8 damage with a dagger-like weapon if you flank your target or your target is flat-footed.
Trapfinding +1 +1 to find or disable traps.

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Aye, I would say someone that has mastered Tian and refuses to kill a goblin that would have killed him is not the raging type. Might have gone that way with Lisabett if it made any thematic sense for her character.

Anyway, Druid 1 for Lisabett this level

She will be taking the Weather Domain granting her the following power

Storm Burst (Sp): As a standard action, you can create a storm burst targeting any foe within 30 feet as a ranged touch attack. The storm burst deals 1d6 points of nonlethal damage + 1 point for every two cleric levels you possess. In addition, the target is buffeted by winds and rain, causing it to take a –2 penalty on attack rolls for 1 round. You can use this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.

Lisabett will be meditating and gaining her spells in the evening, for the record, as she believes in Desna... Actually, I think Crucharchus would be an excellent god for Lisabett to worship, if He still lived. Maybe she and Desna will share that particular motivation, reclaiming what has been stolen from them?

Lisabett Level 2 Hit Die 1d8 ⇒ 2 nope
1d8 ⇒ 6 there we go

Fort Save +2
Will Save +2

Trained Skills Values in Blue have been added/updated

Diplomacy +6, Handle Animal +6, Knowledge (Arcana) +6, Knowledge Nature +7, Perception +6, Survival +9, Spellcraft +6

Languages Known Druidic

Spells Memorized

Create Water, Mending, Purify Food and Drink

1st Level
Feather Step, Shillelagh (Weather Domain) Obscuring Mist

DM Hamied:

How would you like to work this change in RP? I know Druids are fairly insular, and "learning" druidic is not something that is done spontaneously...

HP 45/45, AC- 18, Touch- 14, Flat- 14, CMD- 21, Fort- +6, Ref- +9, Will- +2, Percep- +7, Init- +4
Lisabett Erikkson wrote:

Aye, I would say someone that has mastered Tian and refuses to kill a goblin that would have killed him is not the raging type. Might have gone that way with Lisabett if it made any thematic sense for her character.

Yeah, normal Rage was out but controlled rage I was going to play as incredible focus and honed instincts from a rough life in Sandpoint, rather than the usual hulk smash (it doesn't have the same restrictions as normal rage but is less powerful).

Male Human Gunslinger 03

I'll take a second level of Gunslinger.

Btw I'd like at some point to be able to craft a revolver, which is an advanced firearm and is not suited for all chronicles. So I guess I'm asking if you would allow me to get one, DM.

HP roll 01: 1d10 ⇒ 3

HP roll 02: 1d10 ⇒ 10

Guess I'll take the second one...

Here's my modified character sheet btw

Almar lvl 2

If anyone needs anything when we get back to the city, Lisabett's charity begins with the party.

Actually, if either of the medium/heavy armor strong men like Raziel or Sorin are comfortable with the idea, they can just keep her share save for 10-15 gp in spending coin and distribute it as they believe is equitable.

Since I'm a bit behind, I'm going to use HeroBuilder for most of the work when I get a chance to later.
But here is my HP for 2nd Level.
1d8 ⇒ 4
Hmmm, does 4 count as 1/2 of a die 8, or is it 4.5?

Unfortunately, 4 does count as half, so you're stuck with it. I do want there to be a low end of what you can roll, but I want it to scale with the range of the hit die, and I don't want anybody to be stuck with a 1 or a 2.

I'm still thinking on how to justify your sudden druidity. Lisabett seems to have a spiritual element to her character, so perhaps something in the swamp deepened her connection to nature and awakened her powers. I'll leave it up to you to deal with how surprised she is by this, but I do kind of dig the idea that she knows Druidic but isn't necessarily aware that she knows it.

The short of it is, I'm not going to make you go join a druid grove out of the blue. That just doesn't fit the story at this point. How would you like to play it?

I'm sorry, but I'd like to shy away from advanced firearms, as I think Golarion is still a ways away from their invention. You will have the opportunity to craft much nicer pistols, however.

DM Hamied:

I am thinking that the sudden level of druid was inspired by the fire. Lisabett did not disagree with Gutwad's assessment that what begins with it should end with it, she was simply upset that he was still alive when the party was sent down there to kill him.

In literature fire is always a powerful thing. Our Priest of Sarenrae should know its qualities well. Lisabett fought it intending to spare the party from the unnatural dangers of the swamp, the witch and whatever creatures she still has at her disposal, and the undead. She's had little problem tracking, even as a sorc, in the swamp, and her only real 'ick' factor concerning it was the smell left on her only set of clothes and in her hair.

I see her as being very much of the elements before taking a level of druid, having been out and about ranging in the harsh environment of the Land of the Linnorm Kings.

Wow... lots of writing that does not really directly answer the question. But, i will write something up to post for when we actually get to sleep (I won't apply 2nd level bonuses until we've rested), or when I have it more concrete in my head.

Male Human Gunslinger 03

DM Hamied:
That's OK of course. The problem is mechanically you can't attack more than once with a pistol since you need to recharge every time you shoot. Revolvers and the like aren't terribly more powerful than a pistol except they allow you to shoot more than once when you have more than 1 attack. Not being able of doing that becomes quickly a big problem as the gunslinger gets more levels. So I'm fine with not having advanced firearms in play (for thematic reasons) but without those a gunslinger can't compete with any character armed with a bow, and it's not like firearms are so terribly more powerful than bows at all

Yeah, I understand. To be honest, I think it's a little silly how much better bows are than every other ranged weapon. Would you ever be open to carrying multiple pistols?

Male Human Gunslinger 03

DM Hamied:
Well, I've considered it, but wouldn't change much, besides forcing me to take two weapon fighting feats, and even then I'll be stuck with just 2 attacks (and all the problems of reloading/attacks of opportunity, forcing yet other mandatory feats to offset those disadvantages. Revolvers are the perfect solution (and I just checked: if you read the old Pathfinder campaign setting, page 59, you'll see it seems Alkenstar already has revolvers). Anyway your campaign, your rules.


I maybe shouldn't tell you this, but one way to always keep me in check is to cite canon. Unless I find an element of it to be totally imbalanced or unbelievable, I always value the printed word of Paizo (or whatever publisher puts out the game I'm running/playing). I don't know rules and lore as well as some, but I abide by both as best I can.

We'll get you some kind of revolver, but it may be some time before that happens. I need to glance at the gun crafting rules again in the next few days.

I have to say that I'm liking the interaction between Alamar and Lisabett. It feels... organic.

Obviously she knows all the points that he brought up to keep her from dragging the body back to Sandpoint, it's just a matter of her will to leave him there.

DM Hamied:

I think between the fire and the burial in the swamp, there is more than enough "spiritual awakening" to justify the druid level. I won't do anything corny like the grove visits Lisabett in her dreams, but feeling that intimate connection to men, to her companions forged over threats from unnatural creatures.

I will write something more poignant up when we get around to resting that fully develops this idea.

Oh, and I plan for Lisabett to leave her long spear as a grave marker.

Sir Jolt:
Hey! My Carrion Crown game seems to be deteriorating, but several players are interested in continuing and I'd like to bring in some fresh blood. Rather than opening up the recruitment thread again, I'd rather draw from players I've enjoyed playing with on these boards. You originally applied with a sorcerer. Might you be interested in joining us? You can check the game out here. If you're interested in joining us, let me know in the discussion thread.

I will warn you before you get too invested: the pace has really dropped lately, and I suspect that interest is waning, though none will really admit it (except the guy who dropped). I am considering opening the game to other players from this game (hence getting a larger, more stable group), but I'm not sure yet. If you join us, I'll likely ask your opinion on that before long.

Anyway, let me know! Thanks!

I like it. The connection to the fire makes a lot of sense. I'm interested to see what you come up with.

Male Human Gunslinger 03

DM Hamied:
Question: If you allow advanced firearms does that mean that I need to take a weapon focus: advanced firearms instead of weapon focus: firearms? Do you think they are 2 different feats or the "firearms" category includes advanced firearms too?

No. That's silly. In my opinion, one feat should cover both.

Since I am multi classing with Lisabett, do I still get the human favored class bonus this level?

I am uncertain how it works in PF. If so, I'll pick up an extra skill that might come in handy later, like Fly.

Only one of your base classes can be your favored class (either Sorcerer or Druid, not Mystic Theurge).

All right then, Sorc it is (free spells is too good to give up, even if it is just cantrips for now).

And thanks for the second level clarification. Although technically Lisabett does not have druid spells until she prepares them, which will be when we rest for the night.

Oh man, I have just got to point out the hilarious coincidence that it is post #666 that the paladin uses Detect Evil on his sweetheart. *chuckles*

DM Hamied:

DM Hamied wrote:

There are rules for romances with the major NPCs, but there are also rules for rivalries. Almar was heading there early with Ameiko, but Lisabett might be pulling ahead.

It was totally unintentional, but the way two members of our party worship the woman just begs for some characters to be antagonistic towards her. Personally, I think she can stand to be brought down a few pegs. And if there was no conflict, this darn party would feel too... wholesome. Grit is what makes games for me.

I have yet to meet Shalelu or really have a conversation with your Koya and I'm not going to decide on the basis for a relationship with either character until some interaction has happened.

I love the interaction. I think the two of you will make great rivals.

Ameiko is an interesting character. There is quite a lot to pull from in her background, and I love to play up the melodrama in D&D/Pathfinder (part of the genre, in my opinion). One of the reasons I put the disclaimer in the recruitment thread is I think I might have a different take on her (and the other NPCs, for that matter). Hopefully, my portrayal is reasonably compelling and believable!

DM Hamied:

I have no prior knowledge of what my husband calls "James Jacob's pet NPCs" so any way you choose to play them is novel to me. And honestly, every Paizo published NPC is up to interpretation of the GM anyway. In my Kingmaker game, Kesten Garess is "romancing" the my male Inquisitor of Calistria. I've already replaced Bokken and am planning to replace Corax with someone less... obnoxious.

I also recognize that "Childhood Crushes" are just that, and that it does not mean that Lisabett is beholden to Sandru in any way, or he to her. It was funny when I re-read the text that he's over twice her age (which I rolled randomly). I know it can happen, but it does not seem very likely, even for a fantasy super heroine.

According to the history that I have in The Brinewall Legacy, Sandru is only 31.

DM Hamied:

I sit corrected. Almost twice her age, then. *laughs*

I think the first one to effectively communicate the idea of having an "off switch" is going to get pretty far. Sorin's ideology is alien and Alazandaru's temper is too short. Alamar lives for vengeance, not honor and Brother Holheim... is a priest and she has a particular aversion to them.

Ah well, will be fun nonetheless.

I keep meaning to ask but forgetting - what happened to the three mercs Lisabett brought with her, have they dispersed, or are they going to be part of the caravan? If/When Lisabett gets back to Sandpoint, she'll likely seek them out and spend the night with them.

I have not lost track of Espen, Andres and Large Ulric. They are occupied with various things at the moment (which you'll likely learn about when you return to Sandpoint), but there is a definite possibility of adding them to the caravan.

DM Hamied:

Excellent. I have something to look forward to, whether or not they're raiding and pillaging or dressed in coconut bras and grass skirts. *laughs*

Oh man, I love how our characters have not developed hivemind. You have no idea how refreshing this is.

Sorry for not replying to either Alamar or Raziel, but Alamar's post sneaked in while I was moving Lisabett off stage south.

I might force Lisabett to take a level in barbarian if this raging continues much longer...


Because she disagrees with the Sandpoint boys assessment of the situation? You furnish an argument about how being upset that they brought five horses to crash through the swamp in the dark when we know that there are undead, a witch and assorted monsters about is even remotely irrational and I'll consider the suggestion.

I'm not condemning her reasoning, just pointing out that she's upset!

Just being silly anyway :)

I will put bells upon my horse's saddle and name it Mithral, and run about casting Sound Burst! HAHAHA!

You mean the argument that we brought 5 horses in pursuit of someone who took his own horse?
Or the fact that we were able to catch up to you before you were in the swamp because we used horses?

More like she said that you cannot track from a horse in darkness and the party basically ignored her.

Everyone else has been excusing bad behavior with "I had a bad day." I guess when an NPC that men lust after does it its endearing and she deserves support while Lisabett, who has given up pieces of her identity (her furs and spear) and suffered trauma (watching Alamar fall, the fire and the burial) is being unreasonable and her concerns should be mocked.

At this point she's going to ask Koya how she manages to leave absolutely no track. I'm thinking Hamied's Koya is a druid instead of a cleric, or a ninja. Or she's dreamwalking. But that's all OOC. Lisabett is in awe of the woman's abilities.

Sovereign Court


As clarified, we were using the Light spell from Raziel, I suspect it just went without saying that we didn't ride a couple of kilometers in complete darknes...

Tracking from horseback is a staple of fantasy literature i've read actually, but other than that I don't claim any knowledge of the matter.

As for gribblies in the woods- i'd rather have a mode of transport thats likely faster than the gribbly if its too powerful. If it isn't we'd probably kill it either way.

Alazandaru is a little overdosed on Lisbett right now after spending almost the whole day with her- hes too exhausted to come up with a response :P.

Edit: I would not at any point say he has been mocking her though. Her moral compass and experience points a different way to his and he can accept that.

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