Duncan Clayton, III |
Also, what do people think of me pming individuals with the results of what spell is being cast on you? Better to have the surprise? Or too confusing? Would you prefer I do it in a spoiler? I'll pm for round 2, and then see what you think.
@Khaddar, I'm trying to wrap my head around Khaddar's attack on Quinn. As I understand it, Khaddar attempted to grapple, and then trip Quinn, using two separate rolls. Is this not two actions? I don't see anything about being able to move from a grapple into a trip. I can see that he would need to grab her in order to get her down, but shouldn't this just be one roll, instead of two?
Assuming I'm right (and because of time zones I'll rule that I am so we can move forward, though please school me if I'm wrong), then Khaddar would have successfully tripped Quinn, and he can then attack next...
Khaddar's moves may be a perk from his build. I'm sure he'll let us know about that.
I'm Ok with private PMs or spoilers although I usually check spoilers so if you want to keep it from me (Fabian) then do PMs. :)
So, do we all act for Round 2?
What is the result after Round 1?
Jibril Johan Sameh |
Positions seem to be becoming important. If this cavern floor were a clock face, with the shelf at a distant 12 o'clock, I imagine our positions to be:
Jibril at 10
Khaddar at 11
Quinn at 12
Duncan in the center of the clock (with his hands on 11 ;])
Elia and Ifanna at 4 (eerily close to goldylocks)
Does that make sense?
Jibril Johan Sameh |
You can go to the current map and place the tokens - they'll just be on a white grid instead of a lovely hellish terrain map.
Thanks :)
Purplefixer |
Yes. Khaddar is a Maneuver Master. He can make any one attack, and any one combat maneuver as part of a flurry. Trips can be made in place of regular attacks, so he starts with his Flurry Grapple, then moves on to his Attack Trip. This is otherwise not allowed. Note that Khaddar doesn't have Improved Grapple, which means he'd provoke an attack of opportunity from Quinn if it weren't for the fact that she was flat footed when he went at her.
This particular build actually has *enormous* options in combat, unlike most martial builds, with placement and sneak attack and combat maneuvers all playing parts to make 'things happen'. Grapple is actually the least advantageous of moves for the build since it decreases all further attack rolls by -2. (Agile Maneuvers plus a -4 dex penalty for the grappled condition.)
Purplefixer |
He could have, but you cease to be flat footed after the first attack (no init, no surprise, and it was a full attack action!) so it was more likely to succeed Grapple first.
Happily, Khaddar never attacks to harm humanoids, even the ones he doesn't like, so there's no danger of him murderating his friends, but we'll see what changes after Jibril gets his turn.
Jibril Johan Sameh |
we'll see what changes after Jibril gets his turn
Just to be certain - Elia reacted to passing a save, then Quinn went, now it's Elia's turn?
Duncan Clayton, III |
Ever since Khaddar guessed Duncan's profession IC, I've been thinking that bard may be a pretty good fit for Duncan so I may multiclass into it.
I would need to find an archetype that removes the 'knowledge part' of the bard because I still want Duncan to be 'clueless'. :)
However, the 'cheerleading part' of the bard would fit in nicely.
Angie: how high do you think we'll go up in this adventure?
Duncan Clayton, III |
OMG, Duncan really is turning into Elan. Resist, resist, resist the ill-u-sions!
I was originally thinking going up maybe 2 levels. But if everybody is having fun, I can think bigger than my original idea.
I'm having a blast. :)
Angie H |
I updated the current map to VERY roughly show what's happening. The yellow bits are lava/fire, the grey bits are shadowy, and the black bar at the top is the wall that Jibril could see, with the shelf labelled. This isn't necessarily the extent of the room, just the bits that you can see.
Glad folks are having fun! I'm loving it!
Purplefixer |
I have thoroughly lost the thread of events now. >.< Feeling a bit clueless myself. I need to wait and see if Quinn snaps out of the effect and gets away before Khaddar takes his next action. Did that already happen for the current round? Is it my turn? Are we waiting on me?
Jibril Johan Sameh |
Sorry, I took Quinn's last description to mean she wasn't able to do anything. Elia's initiative is after hers and I declared my turn. I hope it didn't create a confusion cascade.
Angie H |
Khaddar? Are you able to post for this round? If you get an action up in the next hour or so, I'll have time to update before bed. (What timezone are you? Cuz I'm nosy like that).
Quinn is still dangling, not attempting to escape. Nobody else is "threatening" you.
@Jibril - you're breaking my heart!!
Duncan Clayton, III |
Rules help please! I can't find anything about cutting yourself free from bonds with a knife. What should Quinn be able to do here?
The grapple flowcharts found here are a god send.
Per RAW, the only thing a pinned person can do is try to escape using the Escape Artist.
If you have your target pinned, otherwise restrained, or unconscious, you can use rope to tie him up. This works like a pin effect, but the DC to escape the bonds is equal to 20 + your Combat Maneuver Bonus (instead of your CMD).
However, giving the PCs bonuses for good roleplaying is always encouraged because it tends to promote more good roleplaying. I will usually give up to +4 on skill checks for good RPing.
Jibril Johan Sameh |
@Jibril - you're breaking my heart!!
I was going for morose - wait until you read the fever dream. I think it's pretty good.
Duncan Clayton, III |
Angie H wrote:@Jibril - you're breaking my heart!!I was going for morose - wait until you read the fever dream. I think it's pretty good.
I like it. :)
Angie H |
The shelf is about 4 meters up - so roughly 12 feet. Khaddar can't quite make it with his cool jump. I'll give you the parkour off the wall, but not actually climbing up it.
I think you can move and do total defence. I don't see the benefit of doing that here, however, as Jibril isn't currently being threatened by anybody.
EDIT: oops, didn't see the five new posts above this one! Campaign page is being glitchy for me - not always showing new posts. This happening to anybody else?
Thanks Khaddar and Duncan for the bondage rules. :) As Quinn specifically does have a wrist sheath for her dagger, I'm going to rule that she's able to activate it, and cut herself free as a full round action.
Jibril Johan Sameh |
Jibril is not currently threatened but is trying it as a prepared action.
Also, yes, I find the feed a bit glitchy.
Also, PM'd you.
Quinn Starling |
Thanks Khaddar and Duncan for the bondage rules. :) As Quinn specifically does have a wrist sheath for her dagger, I'm going to rule that she's able to activate it, and cut herself free as a full round action.
You are a wise, wise woman.
Jibril Johan Sameh |
I did run past Elia. If she is ensorcelled or caught in the ravishes of hunger this might provoke an attack of opportunity.
Jibril Johan Sameh |
A new drawing - trying to take more cues from Elia's profile pic:
Elia Transforming
Angie H |
That is beautiful and terrifying at the same time! Which I suppose suits Elia perfectly. :)
Nothing happens while you're fiddling about with the stones up top. You can arrange them in a pentagon, but they clearly don't go together.
It looks like Khaddar goes back down without taking a stone, leaving Duncan, Quinn and Jibril up top. What happens next? I need specifics.
Khaddar Khaggan |
Jibril is clearly king, here, but Khaddar is going to freeze to death if we don't make some speed. We already can't hustle or I'd recommend it. The party is sadly reduced to 15' at half Jibril's speed, is that correct? Or is it 10' at half Kaddar's?