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Gm Wu's "The war within"
Game Master doctor_wu

Set in Lastwall starting out in small hamlet of southwatch sout of Castle Everstand.



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I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon (he mostly takes out his god's need for pain on himself). He would have the darkness domain (loss sub-domain) and the death domain (undead sub-domain). the undead sub domain would allow me to touch party members and make them healed by negative energy (and i will definitely have selective channeling). thought it's a fun idea, plus then you can have a full progression divine caster. i'm still working on the fine details, but tell me what you think. d


Hobbit Paladin/hospitaler of Chaldira. Was left stranded in a previous adventure.

He is currently level 1. If party healing is strong, he would probably change to a shining knight.


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon (he mostly takes out his god's need for pain on himself). He would have the darkness domain (loss sub-domain) and the death domain (undead sub-domain). the undead sub domain would allow me to touch party members and make them healed by negative energy (and i will definitely have selective channeling). thought it's a fun idea, plus then you can have a full progression divine caster. i'm still working on the fine details, but tell me what you think. d

I'm gonna make him pretty much a problem solver for the party. He's gonna be very good at intimidate, and only speak up when he needs to (he has a strong presence, but not very good at diplomacy). He can use his undead subdomain to still be the party healer, can interrogate unhelpful enemies, and can handle any undead problems (control undead feat, use channel energy to take them over)

i'd love to hear your feedback GM_wu, also if i can play


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon (he mostly takes out his god's need for pain on himself). He would have the darkness domain (loss sub-domain) and the death domain (undead sub-domain). the undead sub domain would allow me to touch party members and make them healed by negative energy (and i will definitely have selective channeling). thought it's a fun idea, plus then you can have a full progression divine caster. I'm still working on the fine details, but tell me what you think. d

I'm gonna make him pretty much a problem solver for the party. He's gonna be very good at intimidate, and only speak up when he needs to (he has a strong presence, but not very good at diplomacy). He can use his undead subdomain to still be the party healer, can interrogate unhelpful enemies, and can handle any undead problems (control undead feat, use channel energy to take them over)

i'd love to hear your feedback GM_wu, also if i can play

Given where we are, bad idea in choosing Zon-Kuthon,

Pharasma would be a better idea


Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?

"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."


Anna Bridgette wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon (he mostly takes out his god's need for pain on himself). He would have the darkness domain (loss sub-domain) and the death domain (undead sub-domain). the undead sub domain would allow me to touch party members and make them healed by negative energy (and i will definitely have selective channeling). thought it's a fun idea, plus then you can have a full progression divine caster. I'm still working on the fine details, but tell me what you think. d

I'm gonna make him pretty much a problem solver for the party. He's gonna be very good at intimidate, and only speak up when he needs to (he has a strong presence, but not very good at diplomacy). He can use his undead subdomain to still be the party healer, can interrogate unhelpful enemies, and can handle any undead problems (control undead feat, use channel energy to take them over)

i'd love to hear your feedback GM_wu, also if i can play

Given where we are, bad idea in choosing Zon-Kuthon,

Pharasma would be a better idea

Hmm i'm flexible and could change it a little. However, he keeps his religion completely to himself. The only reason he follows Zon-Kuthon is because one day he hopes to reverse the process that caused him to become Zon-Kuthon. He used to be Dou-bral, the sister of Shelyn and he shared her portfolio (good, beauty, love, the arts) with her. Then he went to the dark places between the planes where his mind was twisted and controlled, turning him into Zon-Kuthon. Nareth is trying to become and expert so that one day he can rise to godhood and attempt to reverse the process


Anna Bridgette wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?
"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."

Nareth isn't a "in combat" healer, he has to touch you first (costing a standard action). it's more of an emergency power. more likely he will use selective channeling to make all the enemies feel the pain of his channel while not hitting any allies with it


Anna Bridgette wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon ...
...

Given where we are, bad idea in choosing Zon-Kuthon,

Pharasma would be a better idea

Pip makes a face like she bit into a lemon at the mention of Zon-Kuthon. She crosses her arms and grumbles, "Zon-Kuthon is a mean god and I don't like meany-face gods. Shelyn couldn't even get him to smile, I heard! How nasty do you have to be? When the goddess of art and beauty smiles you should so smile back!" She turns and glares at the cleric as if daring him in the name of her goddess to smile.

But still a cool idea. Especially cool of you had undead in the party. You really need to find an evil campaign with a couple vampires or maybe a litch so you can heal more of the party without having to touch them. If we're both chosen it'll make for some really interesting inter-party name calling. It may even call for a prank or two. :P


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?
"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."
Nareth isn't a "in combat" healer, he has to touch you first (costing a standard action). it's more of an emergency power. more likely he will use selective channeling to make all the enemies feel the pain of his channel while not hitting any allies with it

Also Zon-Kuthon is the ONLY deity that grants the darkness domain, and taking the loss sub-domain allows me to wipe 5 minutes of memory within 30 feet. very good for undoing mistakes


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon ...
...

Given where we are, bad idea in choosing Zon-Kuthon,

Pharasma would be a better idea

Pip makes a face like she bit into a lemon at the mention of Zon-Kuthon. She crosses her arms and grumbles, "Zon-Kuthon is a mean god and I don't like meany-face gods. Shelyn couldn't even get him to smile, I heard! How nasty do you have to be? When the goddess of art and beauty smiles you should so smile back!" She turns and glares at the cleric as if daring him in the name of her goddess to smile.

But still a cool idea. Especially cool of you had undead in the party. You really need to find an evil campaign with a couple vampires or maybe a litch so you can heal more of the party without having to touch them. If we're both chosen it'll make for some really interesting inter-party name calling. It may even call for a prank or two. :P

haha this is definitely a campaign i want to be a part of. luckily nareth is very reclusive and level-headed. most situations he'll calmly think through before acting, but if he gets REALLY pissed off i think i'll make him have a fit of rage


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I have a very cool character in mind. He's a LN human cleric of Zon-Kuthon ...
...

Given where we are, bad idea in choosing Zon-Kuthon,

Pharasma would be a better idea

Pip makes a face like she bit into a lemon at the mention of Zon-Kuthon. She crosses her arms and grumbles, "Zon-Kuthon is a mean god and I don't like meany-face gods. Shelyn couldn't even get him to smile, I heard! How nasty do you have to be? When the goddess of art and beauty smiles you should so smile back!" She turns and glares at the cleric as if daring him in the name of her goddess to smile.

But still a cool idea. Especially cool of you had undead in the party. You really need to find an evil campaign with a couple vampires or maybe a litch so you can heal more of the party without having to touch them. If we're both chosen it'll make for some really interesting inter-party name calling. It may even call for a prank or two. :P

haha this is definitely a campaign i want to be a part of. luckily nareth is very reclusive and level-headed. most situations he'll calmly think through before acting, but if he gets REALLY pissed off i think i'll make him have a fit of rage

oh speaking of pranks (which in game are fantastic), i had my CN druid play a prank on the party paladin one time. we were in a dungeon when he paladin was magically paralyzed (we needed to get him elsewhere to solve it). so i baleful polymorphed him into a turtle (to carry him easier of course...). he was NOT amused lol


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:


Pip makes a face like she bit into a lemon at the mention of Zon-Kuthon. She crosses her arms and grumbles, "Zon-Kuthon is a mean god and I don't like meany-face gods. Shelyn couldn't even get him to smile, I heard! How nasty do you have to be? When the goddess of art and beauty smiles you should so smile back!" She turns and glares at the cleric as if daring him in the name of her goddess to smile.

But still a cool idea. Especially cool of you had undead in the party. You really need to find an evil campaign with a couple vampires or maybe a litch so you can heal more of the party without having to touch them. If we're both chosen it'll make for some really interesting inter-party name calling. It may even call for a prank or two. :P

haha this is definitely a campaign i want to be a part of. luckily nareth is very reclusive and level-headed. most situations he'll calmly think through before acting, but if he gets REALLY pissed off i think i'll make him have a fit of rage

Challenge accepted. :P This is what gnomes were born to do!

Piper tends to have fits of just about everything: happiness, sadness, annoying persistence, dance, song, vomiting (that Excitable trait can get you into some nasty food poisoning, especially when it looks so good and you haven't learned the Purify food and drink orison yet...) Some could say that even her breathing comes in fits. Thankfully she tends to say on the happy side of the emotional pendulum.


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:


Pip makes a face like she bit into a lemon at the mention of Zon-Kuthon. She crosses her arms and grumbles, "Zon-Kuthon is a mean god and I don't like meany-face gods. Shelyn couldn't even get him to smile, I heard! How nasty do you have to be? When the goddess of art and beauty smiles you should so smile back!" She turns and glares at the cleric as if daring him in the name of her goddess to smile.

But still a cool idea. Especially cool of you had undead in the party. You really need to find an evil campaign with a couple vampires or maybe a litch so you can heal more of the party without having to touch them. If we're both chosen it'll make for some really interesting inter-party name calling. It may even call for a prank or two. :P

haha this is definitely a campaign i want to be a part of. luckily nareth is very reclusive and level-headed. most situations he'll calmly think through before acting, but if he gets REALLY pissed off i think i'll make him have a fit of rage

Challenge accepted. :P This is what gnomes were born to do!

Piper tends to have fits of just about everything: happiness, sadness, annoying persistence, dance, song, vomiting (that Excitable trait can get you into some nasty food poisoning, especially when it looks so good and you haven't learned the Purify food and drink orison yet...) Some could say that even her breathing comes in fits. Thankfully she tends to say on the happy side of the emotional pendulum.

Oh my god, please let us play a campaign together with these characters.


CampinCarl9127 wrote:


oh speaking of pranks (which in game are fantastic), i had my CN druid play a prank on the party paladin one time. we were in a dungeon when he paladin was magically paralyzed (we needed to get him elsewhere to solve it). so i baleful polymorphed him into a turtle (to carry him easier of course...). he was NOT amused lol

Oh that's FANTASTIC!


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?
"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."
Nareth isn't a "in combat" healer, he has to touch you first (costing a standard action). it's more of an emergency power. more likely he will use selective channeling to make all the enemies feel the pain of his channel while not hitting any allies with it
Also Zon-Kuthon is the ONLY deity that grants the darkness domain, and taking the loss sub-domain allows me to wipe 5 minutes of memory within 30 feet. very good for undoing mistakes

Correctoin only core diety.


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:


oh speaking of pranks (which in game are fantastic), i had my CN druid play a prank on the party paladin one time. we were in a dungeon when he paladin was magically paralyzed (we needed to get him elsewhere to solve it). so i baleful polymorphed him into a turtle (to carry him easier of course...). he was NOT amused lol
Oh that's FANTASTIC!

the best part was when we got back to the city where we knew a high lv'd cleric to solve the problem...the city was under siege and the cleric dead


http://www.spoki.lv/upload/users/57/57778/profileImage/profileImage.jpg

^Nareth is not amused...^^^


GM_wu wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?
"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."
Nareth isn't a "in combat" healer, he has to touch you first (costing a standard action). it's more of an emergency power. more likely he will use selective channeling to make all the enemies feel the pain of his channel while not hitting any allies with it
Also Zon-Kuthon is the ONLY deity that grants the darkness domain, and taking the loss sub-domain allows me to wipe 5 minutes of memory within 30 feet. very good for undoing mistakes
Correctoin only core diety.

I try to stay away from 3rd party, or even meshing up rules and asking the DM every 5 minutes if he will allow something


CampinCarl9127 wrote:


I try to stay away from 3rd party, or even meshing up rules and asking the DM every 5 minutes if he will allow something

Same here. I did that in one of my tabletop games and it was a pain. The character is fun, but I'm going to avoid repeating that situation if all possible.


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?
"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."
Nareth isn't a "in combat" healer, he has to touch you first (costing a standard action). it's more of an emergency power. more likely he will use selective channeling to make all the enemies feel the pain of his channel while not hitting any allies with it
Also Zon-Kuthon is the ONLY deity that grants the darkness domain, and taking the loss sub-domain allows me to wipe 5 minutes of memory within 30 feet. very good for undoing mistakes
Correctoin only core diety.
I try to stay away from 3rd party, or even meshing up rules and asking the DM every 5 minutes if he will allow something

I mean dieties in inner sea world guide Count Ranalc and Groetus.


GM_wu wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
Anna Bridgette wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Wow, Gm_wu now has 3 characters to choose from who can heal. Myself, the cleric and the Hospitaler. Though, admittedly, my planned focus was on support and control rather than healing. Is this common, to see so many characters with some heal ability?
"Actually the current party does have some healing abilities; from Me and the inquisitor, though I'll admit we are not focused on healing."
Nareth isn't a "in combat" healer, he has to touch you first (costing a standard action). it's more of an emergency power. more likely he will use selective channeling to make all the enemies feel the pain of his channel while not hitting any allies with it
Also Zon-Kuthon is the ONLY deity that grants the darkness domain, and taking the loss sub-domain allows me to wipe 5 minutes of memory within 30 feet. very good for undoing mistakes
Correctoin only core diety.
I try to stay away from 3rd party, or even meshing up rules and asking the DM every 5 minutes if he will allow something
I mean dieties in inner sea world guide Count Ranalc and Groetus.

Ahh my bad. Well am i generally getting a no for someone who follows Zon-Kuthon? I could change him up


@campin carl Yeah zon kuothon with undeath domain is not the best idea in lastwall. You know why it was founded right?


GM_wu wrote:
I mean dieties in inner sea world guide Count Ranalc and Groetus.

Wow, If you remembered that off the top of your head I'm going to be profoundly impressed.


GM_wu wrote:
@campin carl Yeah zon kuothon with undeath domain is not the best idea in lastwall. You know why it was founded right?

vaguely. ok i'll be back in a bit with another character, i'll b keeping that one in storage for an evil campaign tho...


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
@campin carl Yeah zon kuothon with undeath domain is not the best idea in lastwall. You know why it was founded right?
vaguely. ok i'll be back in a bit with another character, i'll b keeping that one in storage for an evil campaign tho...

is there any kind of character we particularly need right now?


I know you posted the characters you had, but what area do you feel lacking in?
Lol maybe a paladin?


Fighter maybe?


Right now there aren't many ranged (archery-focused) or skill-based characters in the running. There's a cavalier, me, hospitaler paladin, and ranger in the running if I'm not missing someone.


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
Right now there aren't many ranged (archery-focused) or skill-based characters in the running. There's a cavalier, me, hospitaler paladin, and ranger in the running if I'm not missing someone.

Now that I look at the list, that's a lot of divine casting when there's already an inquisitor in the group


I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish

There are still no "skillmonkey" characters, if that kind of thing appeals to you.


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish
There are still no "skillmonkey" characters, if that kind of thing appeals to you.

i havnt played a normal rogue in a while, perfect! good old fashioned rogue, halfling probably. ill make the character and post it later tonight


Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish
There are still no "skillmonkey" characters, if that kind of thing appeals to you.

INquistor and alchemist cover some skills.


GM_wu wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish
There are still no "skillmonkey" characters, if that kind of thing appeals to you.
Inquistor and alchemist cover some skills.

Indeed. Just throwing out ideas.


GM_wu wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish
There are still no "skillmonkey" characters, if that kind of thing appeals to you.
INquistor and alchemist cover some skills.

What do you feel like you NEED? i'm not partial to any class, just a little more experienced with some. you guys have divine casting pretty good, so it seems that arcane and melee might be needed. how about a magus? half wizard, half fighter, all gish. not a good utility caster, but for handling other arcane problems he's superb. and as far as fighting goes he's terrifying


oh, and definitely going the bladebound archetype if i go magus. the intelligent weapon is just too great to pass up


CampinCarl9127 wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
Piper 'Pip' Zappenpop wrote:
CampinCarl9127 wrote:
I could play my obnoxiously defensive dwarven fighter. at lv 15 his CMD is over 60 :D what about a wizard or a magus? something arcane. aa magus is half wizard half fighter all gish
There are still no "skillmonkey" characters, if that kind of thing appeals to you.
INquistor and alchemist cover some skills.
What do you feel like you NEED? i'm not partial to any class, just a little more experienced with some. you guys have divine casting pretty good, so it seems that arcane and melee might be needed. how about a magus? half wizard, half fighter, all gish. not a good utility caster, but for handling other arcane problems he's superb. and as far as fighting goes he's terrifying

just remembered you have a witch...arcane is handled lol. still, a magus would allow the witch to prepare more utility spells and worry less about having to burn ranks of enemies. and with some self buffs he's just as tough as a fighter, dealing more damage

Grand Lodge

here's a rough outline of my idea for a magus build

Grand Lodge

Hammered out some of the finer details


Can I see the rest of storm fleetfoots gear down to some more details?

Grand Lodge

@GM_wu what do you think of my magus thus far?


Abith wrote:
@GM_wu what do you think of my magus thus far?

Looks like another dervish dance magus build.

Grand Lodge

GM_wu wrote:
Abith wrote:
@GM_wu what do you think of my magus thus far?
Looks like another dervish dance magus build.

indeed it is lol. also i have the bladebound archetype, so there's an intelligent weapon thrown into the mess

Grand Lodge

Abith wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
Abith wrote:
@GM_wu what do you think of my magus thus far?
Looks like another dervish dance magus build.
indeed it is lol. also i have the bladebound archetype, so there's an intelligent weapon thrown into the mess

I'm trying not to make him a stereotypical elven magus. He' kinda a 'black sheep' of the elves, he's LN and is more rigid than a paladin, which makes other elves frown at him. sometimes he's even blinded by how stubborn he can be and would rather do the lawful thing than the right thing.

plus you would get to invent and play the black blade. and just take my character over whenever lol


Storm has been updated with gear, bought armor for the horse and some potions


Storm Fleetfoot wrote:
Storm has been updated with gear, bought armor for the horse and some potions

Potions are not legal as they are personal spells. Pick something else. That rule is in the magic item creation section.


GM_wu wrote:
Storm Fleetfoot wrote:
Storm has been updated with gear, bought armor for the horse and some potions
Potions are not legal as they are personal spells. Pick something else. That rule is in the magic item creation section.

So I cannot have the potions or can I just change the spells? I know CLW works, but I forgot about the personal rule. Enlarge Person and Shield of Faith would be the changes, both non personal spells


Storm Fleetfoot wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
Storm Fleetfoot wrote:
Storm has been updated with gear, bought armor for the horse and some potions
Potions are not legal as they are personal spells. Pick something else. That rule is in the magic item creation section.
So I cannot have the potions or can I just change the spells? I know CLW works, but I forgot about the personal rule. Enlarge Person and Shield of Faith would be the changes, both non personal spells

Change spells sorry for not being clear.


GM_wu wrote:
Storm Fleetfoot wrote:
GM_wu wrote:
Storm Fleetfoot wrote:
Storm has been updated with gear, bought armor for the horse and some potions
Potions are not legal as they are personal spells. Pick something else. That rule is in the magic item creation section.
So I cannot have the potions or can I just change the spells? I know CLW works, but I forgot about the personal rule. Enlarge Person and Shield of Faith would be the changes, both non personal spells
Change spells sorry for not being clear.

Ok, fixed. Changed to Enlarge Person and Shield of Faith

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