Gm Aest's Kingmaker: To Forge a Kingdom

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Male Human Witch 4
Stats:
HP: 30, Initiative: +6, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +3 AC: 12 (T: 12, FF: 10), CMD: 14, Fort: 4, Refl: 3, Will: 6

I takes the whole group to be slow really. Im having a bit of the same if im being honest.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

I've been in a hell of a rut with Life. Getting three job interviews and being turned down afterwards is pretty disheartening. I'm willing to keep fighting here, though. I don't want to see this game fizzle out after my other long-running one did.

EDIT: As for gameplay, I'm happy to fast-forward. I know for my part I'm not the most intelligent planner (plus, it's far too late here >.>)


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

I'm sorry I haven't been around as much, it's been a rough week. My grandma was in the hospital and nearly passed away, but she's doing a lot better and she's home now. I'm hoping to get caught up on life in general tomorrow/saturday


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

I've been quite busy with university this week, but I'm certainly happy to continue this game, even slowly. As for gameplay, I'm happy to fast-forward, Valeriya doesn't have a strong stake in this conversation.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

Lali in fancy clothes


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I just finished the Witcher 3, and I'm imagining her reacting would be the same as Geralt.


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Sorry on the Anton Garess link. My bad. I'm not on my home computer at the moment, so you'll just have to live in suspense about what he looks like for a bit.


Male Human Witch 4
Stats:
HP: 30, Initiative: +6, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +3 AC: 12 (T: 12, FF: 10), CMD: 14, Fort: 4, Refl: 3, Will: 6

Is it me, or is Kaz missing an entire level?


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

Lali: great link, that's my headcanon now. Likewise, my inspiration for Kaz in fancy clothes was a child being forced to dress up in Sunday best.

And whoops, it seems I am. There's a Reason(TM) for that, I just... can't remember it >.>


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

Hey Lander Lebada, I just ran a PDF scenario featuring him.


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It should be noted that that Lander is probably different than this Lander.


Yeah and my character has never met him before if nothing else.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

The site has been a definite pain in my rear, between logging me out and being down. I hope they fix whatever's going on.


Male Human Witch 4
Stats:
HP: 30, Initiative: +6, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +3 AC: 12 (T: 12, FF: 10), CMD: 14, Fort: 4, Refl: 3, Will: 6

Man, I really need to get a post in, this is ridiculous. Just been very down lately, and its felt like some insurmountable task. But im not going anywhere.


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Anything I can do? Is it the character, or real life? I'm going through a lot of the same kinds of feelings, and it's a struggle.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

No worries Luthor, we've all been there. We're always here if you want to talk, in public or a PM :)


Male Human Witch 4
Stats:
HP: 30, Initiative: +6, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +3 AC: 12 (T: 12, FF: 10), CMD: 14, Fort: 4, Refl: 3, Will: 6

Nah Aest, not much you can do I think. Its real life, not the character. Basically, putting together a post just seems like such a giant task, whenever I think about it, I push it off for later. Doesnt make much sense really.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

I sympathize. I've been there before; heck I go there on a regular basis. Half of dealing with depression is learning how to trick your own brain; sounds weird but it's true. Try writing for 5 minutes and then decide if you want to continue or stop. If you want to stop and come back to it later it's totally fine, don't feel bad about it.


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

No worries Luthor, take time you need.


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I realize it's not going to be the most help, but would it help if I found Luthor something to do? I haven't been focusing on him much, partially because there's not really a lot for me to work with in terms of background, but I'm sure I could find something else for him to do here.


Male Human Witch 4
Stats:
HP: 30, Initiative: +6, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +3 AC: 12 (T: 12, FF: 10), CMD: 14, Fort: 4, Refl: 3, Will: 6

Id like to think it will help, but I cant really be certain to be honest.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

Luthor, the only advice I can offer is what's helped me cope with tasks when my own depression is acting up (and it's basically what Lali said): break things down. Break a post down into a series of points you want to hit, try writing til you hit one and then, if you feel okay, try another; if you don't, leave it for a while and do something else. There have been times when I've had a .docx saved with five half-started posts, and it's sat on my desktop for a week while I've just tapped out a few words at a time.

We care about you, mate, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who hopes you feel up to it soon.


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Hi, all.

I think I'm going to fast forward a bunch, because given my current mental state, this scene's likely to drag on until next June, and I'd like to get to the actual Book Two someday. Anyone have strenuous objections?


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

No objections from me. Moving forward sounds good to me.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

You do what's best for you, mate. I'm good with whatever that may be.


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Okay, here's what I'll need, then. There are a few places that could be used for a starting city. The first, Oleg's Trading Post, would have an increased benefit to trade. The second, the Stag Lord's Fortress, would enable a large building for relatively cheap. And the last one, the hidden temple where you fought the bear, would provide a benefit to any religious-based building.

Additionally, I'll need a name for your barony, and a name for your first city. Then, we'll get going on the kingdom building stuff.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

I'm down for the time skip, although I'm still wondering who is behind that wall in the kitchen xD

I favor taking over the Stag Lord's place, although we obviously have to do something about the zombies, and make sure there aren't any hidden surprises. I like the idea of making something positive out of a place that was awful.

City/Barony names...that's tougher. I'll admit that I'm drawing a lot of blanks. Lali's very agnostic, but considering how involved the party's been with Erastil we could name our first city after him? Erasville, Elkheart or something. For the barony we could go with something basic like Greenbelt Barony, Verdantia, idk. Something more creative would also be good, but my brain can't come up with it right now lol.


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

Well Valeriya would probably be happy to go along with the preferences of the more established party members. But in the interest of knowing her opinion she would lean toward Oleg's Trading Post, as she would like the idea of being a trade hub.

Her city/barony names would probably be boring but functional like 'Greenbelt Barony South-East', 'Barony Vasilovich' or just the name of a major river or something. She's not the most creative ha ha.


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The things in the wall behind the kitchen were going to be Mikmek, Nakpik, and some of the other kobolds, there to get Nah and go back to their budding kingdom.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

In the true spirit of a party being unable to decide on anything, Kaz would suggest the temple as our first site. It's significant to his deity, it was the reason he was drawn to the Greenbelt in the first place, and he came back to life there, so it's pretty close to his heart.

He also isn't terribly creative with names :P What are some significant landmarks and rivers and the like? That might be a good place to start.

(Sorry for the delay in chiming in; summer is kicking my ass)


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Well, we've got a tie on the location. Luthor, any thoughts?

The region has a wide number of rivers, of which the Shrike and the Thorn are the two the party would know best. There's also the Tuskwater, a lake the Stag Lord's fortress sits to the north of. Finally, the plains are known as the Kameland, while the forested region is the Narlmarch.


Male Human Witch 4
Stats:
HP: 30, Initiative: +6, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +3 AC: 12 (T: 12, FF: 10), CMD: 14, Fort: 4, Refl: 3, Will: 6

Luthor wants to agree with Kaz, and does, but he agrees more with using the stag lords fortress I think.

I personally like Elkheart, though I suppose that would be more fitting for the temple.


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

As a player Elkheart sounds good to me, nice and evocative. Valeriya is happy to go along with whatever.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

So we have two votes for using the fortress as our first point, which is a clear majority. Cool beans :)

I may be looking far too much into this, but I'm currently trying to make sense of Russian place naming conventions. What I've noticed is that towns ending in '-sk' is common (who would've thought?). '-Grad' simply means 'city', so if we're thinking of an elk connection, we could go with Elkgrad (or Losgrad if we were to go full Russian). The Russian equivalent of 'province' is 'oblast', another thing we could potentially bastardize.

I'm just throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks; it's nearly 1 a.m. and the creative juices are flowing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And of course this all becomes irrelevant if nobody else is thinking of Brevoy as Russia >.>


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I always figured that Brevoy was Pre-Germany German in politics and Eastern European in culture, if that helps.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

Hmm. What about Elkheart for the City and -blast for the province? If we slap it together with some of the words for Green we'd get stuff like Zelenblast (Russian), Grunblast (German), Zelenoblast (Bosnian), Grengblast (Luxembourgish) etc. In looking up translations of the word green I found out it's 'Roheline' in Estonian, which I think is pretty.


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Roheline is really pretty.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

Oooh, yeah, I like that as well. Let's work with that.


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

Roheline sounds pretty good to me. Should we add -blast or just go with Roheline on it's own?


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I sort of feel like the -blast doesn't work as well here. Up to you guys, though.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

Yeah, I'm also fine with dropping suffixes and just going for it. (Thought I posted this yesterday; I blame dodgy internet.)


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Okay, so Elkheart is the city, Roheline is the barony?

If that's the case, I'll need to review the Kingdom-Building rules really quick, and tomorrow we'll get going on that.


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

Both those names sound good to me. I don't blame you for wanting to review those rules, when I read them I found them pretty convoluted.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

I will be leaving town in the morning and will be gone for a few days. My friend's parents lost everything in the wildfires we're having in southern california, so I'm going up to help as I can. I should be back thursday-ish I think


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I'm sorry to hear that. I'm drowning in work stuff here and struggling mentally, but I'll try to get Book Two going here soon.


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Okay, so, we need an alignment for the barony, we have leadership roles (or at least, we did before I deleted them from the Google Doc. I'll look them up again). What we'll need to do is spend from our 50 BP on a couple of buildings for our first settlement.

Kingdom Building is where I'm getting my info and numbers.


Male human Paladin (shining knight of Erastil) 2 / Bloodrager (Celestial) 1 | AC 19, T 10, FF 19 | hp 7/34 | Fort +9, Ref +3, Will +5 | CMD 18 | Initiative +1 | Perception +0 | Smite Evil 0/1 | Lay on Hands 1/3 | Bloodrage rounds 3/6

The party is split evenly between LG and CG, so how about Neutral Good for the kingdom alignment? Plenty of idealists here.

50 BP goes pretty quickly, from the look of things. Are we using the grid method? Shall we set up a spreadsheet to get an idea?


Female Human (Taldan) Cleric(Herald Caller of Abadar) 4 | HP: 35/35 | AC: 16 / T: 10 / FF: 16 | Fort: +6, Ref: +1, Will: +7(+8 against mind-affecting) | Melee: +5, Ranged: +3 | CMB: +5, CMD: 15 | Init: +0, Perception: +11, Sense Motive: +10 | Channel 5/5 | Agile Feet 6/6

A grid sounds good to me, it's been ages since I've read these rules and better visualisation might help me understand it a little better.


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Yeah, we can make a grid. I'll either get it set up this weekend/sometime when I can wrap my head around it, or someone else can build it before then.

To be honest, the Kingdom Building rules are really intimidating me. I'll take another shot at figuring them out, then I'll probably go with Kingdom in the Background if I can't get them.


Ini +3; HP 35/35; AC 16 T 13 FF 13; Fort+6 Ref +7 Will+3; Perc +10

I am back, after being gone and then contracting the plague. Yay for feeling like an actual person. I have read over the kingdom building rules and would generally rather poke my eyes out than make us all do some min/maxing calculating every build point fancy pants thing. Kingdom in the Background sounds good me, although I would like to do some input on what's going on there. Maybe a compromise between the two?

I think Neutral Good is perfect, I don't see Lali working as well with Lawful Good lol.

Do we pick sponsors from Brevoy and that ball to help us out? Lali likes Maegar Varn, would support working with Orlovsky and the temple of Erastil, doesn't know anything about sailing so she's neutral on the Lebedas siblings, and thinks Garess can suck it because mines generally pollute the land around them. And Kobolds are friends, not things to stab.

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