Gestalt Wrath of the Righteous (Inactive)

Game Master Dasgovernator

This is the discussion thread. Put questions for the GM and other OOC stuff here.

Please open up the gameplay thread. That way I can dot it, causing this campaign to show up in my campaign list.

Thanks for picking me.

Hey everyone, looking forward to playing with you guys. I'm ready to boot this up when you are.

Hi all.

GM did you have a preference between Oracle or Paladin start?

Greetings. I am honored to here amongst such fine folk.

While I'm not the GM, I think that it makes more sense to start as a Paladin. Lvl 1 before Gestalt we are more or less 'normal.' It feels to me to be more 'right' to gestalt into having magical powers, rather than gestalting into being great at hitting things with a sword.

Especially with Oracle. I mean, it's a pretty awesome story to have a paladin be so holy that her god(dess) looks down on her and blesses her with divine power.

Plus...we could use a good front liner right now. Me and Belg are ranged. Edmund is a wizard. And while Caisramriel has a bastard sword...he is Con11 with AC13. So not exactly a tank.

Well you guys are travelling with angel, a very low ranked one mind you.
Sadly yes, my health is a little on the low side and I'm not allow to wear armour. Although my armour gets better as I level up and I can take some abilities that give me ac bonuses against evil enemies.

I've never heard about the Grigori race, nor do I see where the rules are. Would you mind showing me where I can find them?

Also we should make quite the team.

Eldric: Unarmored Aasimar sporting angelic wings. Flies around with a bow.
Caisramriel: An unarmored Angel. Runs around with a flaming holy bastard sword and makes people spontaneously combust.

Holy divers, I like it.
Zen archers are a blast. I'm playing one in a mythic gestalt game. Level 3 is a very happy level for them. I can tell this adventure is going to be fun.

I wish they would add the grigori to the d20pfsrd, it would make things simpler. I could send you the PDF, I would just need your email for me to transfer it sadly. Pm if you're interested.

hello all, will say more later tonight, A friend just went to hospital with pneumonia. and he is still recovering from lung cancer.

While I'm not the GM, I think that it makes more sense to start as a Paladin. Lvl 1 before Gestalt we are more or less 'normal.' It feels to me to be more 'right' to gestalt into having magical powers, rather than gestalting into being great at hitting things with a sword.

Especially with Oracle. I mean, it's a pretty awesome story to have a paladin be so holy that her god(dess) looks down on her and blesses her with divine power.

Plus...we could use a good front liner right now. Me and Belg are ranged. Edmund is a wizard. And while Caisramriel has a bastard sword...he is Con11 with AC13. So not exactly a tank.

I am here, guess nobody noticed?

I say Oracle start. otherwise we will be having nearly a set of twins that may just be getting in each other's way.

Well you have to post to get noticed. ;)

And aye. Now that you are here to tank and stab people, it'd be nice to have an oracle to provide healing.

Bump?

I think we're waiting on the opening post.

Just making sure this hasn't died before it even began.

I am here, guess nobody noticed?

I say Oracle start. otherwise we will be having nearly a set of twins that may just be getting in each other's way.

I noticed you but it's an even split between casters and martial, so I'm ok either way.

I'm also going to play Sarah as a very different paladin than your Iomadaen, so I'm not worried about twins. She's focused on redemption, you're focused on vengeance. Should be fun. I'll start as oracle if it makes you feel better though.

As an angel of Ragathiel, I too will stand for vengeance against those that are wronged. However, I would lend a hand to those that want to right their wrongs.
This should be an interesting group.

Play what you will have fun with Sarah, please. I have been trying like forever to play a Wrath game and I want everyone in the game to have fun. It will keep the game moving.

Also I have been swamped at work but it is finally weekend time so time to get posting again.

great screwed up ... again.

at least I never made mention as to remembering anything, more like a narration before the current event from her perspective then?

Eh don't worry, no harm done. Let's just continue on, there might be other survivors.

Bit at a loss for how to continue. We are stuck in a dark place, and our perception tests to see what is around us haven't yielded any fruit

Anyone have a deck of cards? Now I guess could be a good time for more exposition.

Yeah I think we're waiting on the GM to give a description of wherever we are before we start walking. I can post another "Sarah looks at the floor, the walls, the ceiling, the air" style prompt in gameplay but it's the weekend and I'll wait till monday night I think.

Don't worry about the Dm Eldric. I'm sure he will be back soon enough.

Are you sure? I had high hopes for this campaign, but this wouldn't be the first die in the first scene. It'd be good to at least have a heads up first.

Fair enough, I've been in enough campaigns where there are waits between posts. Sadly it's the nature of pbp, I have faith though.

Probably just real life issues.

To keep this moving can we have a rule that after x days we don't wait for people to post?

In some of my other games we have a rule of
3 days: no post=bot
1 day: no post during combat=bot

Sadly I think this campaign is done. :(

Come on Eldric, I think you should give the dm a little more credit, don't you think?

I'm in games where the dm and players don't post for ranges of 3-10 days. It's the nature of pbp, one might think it goes quickly but in reality it tends to be very slow.

We should all remain patient, we all have jobs and lives here. I know it sucks to wait, but I think you should be less pessimistic. Sam is just waiting for us all to post, which has happened now. It's for the sake of everyone else.

Good things come to those that wait.

I think it may help if the DM were to set expectations. Most recruitment threads list a desired posting rate so that everyone knows what the pace is.

The problem with this scene as a place to stop and wait is that there is literally nothing for the characters to do with each other. We've got a pile of NPCs, an an ill defined space, and maybe we're in combat? It's hard to say. It's natural to Ask The DM for interaction and clarification here. Even just short replies along the lines of "the man stands up, he's wearing blah blah blah" that don't really advance the plot at least give the PC and player something to keep posting about.

I'm going to give him credit considering, this is his first online campaign.

I have no doubt I would be a bit slow or there would be issues if I were to run my first online campaign.

I think that's a good idea Belg.

Here's the thing. I've DM'd for years doing PbP. I'm involved in several campaigns. I understand waiting for posting and whatnot, but we have 0 communication. No 'I have a family emergency, he back soon.' No 'I will post once a week.' Nothing. So far we are just in a cave and...?

Believe me, I want this to work. But we need expectations. Otherwise how long do we wait? This started late March...

I've been dming since I was in highschool, so for a good little bit.
I understand having little details makes it hard for interacting and we can only interact with each other for so long.

OK,
well I think it is a little too soon to be jumping ship. He just posted this past Wednesday less than 48 hours ago. So let us give him some time. If come Monday we do not her anything then we can start to worry.

In the mean time.....

DM Sam we are waiting on your guidance to continue this PBP game.
I personally would like to see more post from you to move the game along and if a player does not post in a three days time we bot them and move forward. If a player does not post in a days time during combat we bot them and move forward. That is what I have seen in other games.
Now it is hard to bot the DM.

I agree edmund.

Aye, I'll give the benefit of the doubt. I'd just like a bit more setting the ground for interaction. Or some groundwork rules, on when to expect posting.

I'm all for leaving players to talk and meander among themselves, but the scene has to be set up for it...

Due to lack of DM input, I am dropping from the game. If some of the other players wish to try and acquire a new DM for a game like this, Please let me know.
Thanks for the short game everyone.

I am starting to think the same thing. This is pretty common with wrath games I am in.

Could be the case, it's sadly the way of pbp.

For what it's worth...as an invitation to anyone interested in this:

http://trueds.nl/wartales/home.php

It's an online campaign. A mixture of strategy and RPing.

The Story
Centuries ago the dwarven stronghold of Ekrund fell to an orc and goblin horde. Numerous attempts to retake it have met with failure. However, the hold has come under the avaricious eye of the merchants of the city of Marienburg. The men realized that Ekrund sits near a very important trade route, and that controlling it would be profitable. Furthermore, there are many dwarven artifacts lost within its' halls, and the mines of the hold are still rich. As such, they have sent their own expedition to take the hold for themselves.

This, of course, was met with anger by the dwarven kings. Doubly so, as the men of Marienburg told the dwarves that if they aided the expedition, the new human lords of the city would provide the dwarves with favorable trade agreements. Due to this grave insult, the dwarves have once again raised their own army to retake the lost city, as they would rather die than see it in the hands of arrogant humans.

But the men and dwarves are not alone in their feud. The hold itself is still overrun by goblins. And even worse, a large orc army has formed outside, origionally for the purpose of driving the goblins out. Now that they see two large armies converging on the city, they have redoubled their efforts to take the city, as they live for a good scrap.

The Factions

Human merchants of Marienburg (4 active players)
-Begun making trading outposts and defiling dwarven holy sites

The Dwarven reclamation effort (3 active players)
-Warring with local goblins inside the hold

The orcs and goblins (4 active players)
-Have opened old mines both in and outside the hold

Mechanics

Each turn is 1 week. We all have 1 army which can move and attack different locations within (and outside of) the city.

Nobody knows when the campaign will end, that way no faction can plan for 'one last push' at the end.

In addition to reporting once a turn, players can strategize on where to best report, write letters to NPCs to get benefits/information, and do 'special projects.' These can range from building structures, to whatever your imagination can come up with.

We are on turn 3
I'm in the dwarf faction...and some more players would be helpful. But players for any faction are always welcome

Is anyone interested in giving this game a try with another DM?

Yeah if we can find another Dm I'd be down. Even if it means we need to do some character rebuilding.

I am interested.

It seems like we are hunting for a new GM. I will go ahead and get a post up soon.

Now the question is if we find a new Dm, should we change the character creation rules?

If ran as Sam intended, it would get nasty against mythic monster and we'd probably die by the nature of mythic action economy. Do guys think we should play it single class with mythic, as is or find someone insane enough to try gestalt mythic?

I am not sure how to work it. I like to idea of Gestalt and then Mythic....pretty powerful stuff. Why not see how each DM responds to GM Sams original set up and go from there.

That's a fair approach. I do enjoy high power plays, but it can be off putting to some.