So, You Want To Be A Linnorm King? (Inactive)

Game Master leinathan

This is for completed characters, character discussion and bids on linnorms!

It's also a waiting room for the current challenger to finish.

Bidding on the Tarn Linnorn. @GM: for different Linnorns, why don't the hunts run at the same time? :)

I bid upon the Crag Linnorm.

What are Nathaniel's other favored enemies?

The hunts don't run at the same time for a couple of reasons:

One, the bid system encourages players to make lower-level characters and face higher CR linnorms.

Two, if you win a challenge, then you face each new challenger that also wins a challenge.

BUT we have two bids right now!

Nathaniel, 12th-level, bids on the CR 14 Crag (bid value 2)
Krayn, 17th-level, bids on the CR 21 Tarn (bid value 3)

As it's here, Krayn will win the bid. I'll give others a bit of time to bid higher while I put some info in the campaign tab and make the gameplay tab.

I'm bidding at a Tarn, not Tor (CR 20, not 21).

Sven would like to take the fight to the mighty Tor Linnorm.

Why would he need other favored enemies?

It'd be nice if you could put up a gameplay thread so we can dot and have it appear in our campaigns for easier monitoring.

Because I plan each challenger to face three encounters - one random encounter by terrain type, the linnorm themselves, and the previous winner of the challenge. This wasn't supposed to just be "There's a linnorm, kill it". I intended to put a bit of randomness and a couple extra encounters to encourage a bit of diversity of the PCs.

Sven, with a bid value of 6, will win the bid as it stands now.

Gameplay thread's up.

Heh I'm aware, but it suits the character to have him be near-psychotically focused on dragons. No other favored enemies.

Why not take the time while you wait to add the dragon hunter ranger archetype?

I did think about it, but didn't much want to get into dragoncrafting.

Gotcha. Well, whatever floats your boat.

Sven, with a bid value of 6, wins the bid this time around! Go ahead and put yourself in gameplay whenever you've got the time, everyone else just kinda.. sit tight.

It looks like we have a victor!

Sven has taken down his tor linnorm opponent and being able to survive via Clone allows him to get home and wrest the throne from Blood-Eagle (who gives it without a fight).

I'll post some narrative stuff in Gameplay, and in 24 hours (tomorrow evening, 8pm PST) I'll be ready to start the second round of the challenge. If you want to get in on this, git gud and bid before that happens.

Otherwise, Krayn La'jal will be the next to go, with a bid value of 3 (17th level against a CR 20 tarn linnorm).

Cracked Pearly White Spindle Ioun Stone with Deathless Initiate - that's how I saw it built before. :) when I saw the scroll of clone, I knew already some type of suicidal build was coming, hehe. Nice job. I guess in a table a dragon would probably disarm you, start pulling/cutting your limbs off or something like that after he noticed you didn't die from obvious mortal wounds (they're not much the "I simply keep full attacking" type of creature). He'd probably just go back to swim in the lava and make a plan.

I fear I won't be able to post so frequently though :( I thought the game would involve more encounters and whatnot, hence why I asked about multiple people at the same time. I'm not much a fan of the "arena" type of game, so I'll simply step down. Have fun guys.

Please pardon the (possibly ignorant) question from a total lurker - what was keeping Sven alive? I don't see any of life bubble, deathless initiate, regeneration, etc. that maintain life after -600+HP. What did I miss?

Regeneration says you can't die if it's still active. Deathless says going into negatives doesn't put you unconscious and you can act normally.

Actually, some people argue about this combo, as much as I love it. The argument would be that, although the person doesn't die, the person would go unconscious once it hits negative CON - it's based on the text of Diehard, that says the person dies at this point. The argument basically is that Diehard only keeps you conscious between negative CON and 0. Deathless Initiate just changes the disabled to not make you staggered, and regeneration just keeps you alive until the turn off condition happens (in his case, fire or acid damage). I personally think the combo works just fine as Sven did, but I can understand the other side too.

Yeah, I agree with Krayn about the interpretation.

Strangely, I don't think I've ever seen a creature with both regeneration and Diehard in a paizo product, but I'll be sure to include one soon enough.

The balancing bit is that as soon as you hit the offending character with the proper element, they die. The problem was that Sven was immune to fire damage and the linnorm has no fire attacks.

So if I have this correct:

• The Diehard feat allows you to act as disabled/staggered instead of dying, then
• the Deathless Initiate feat allows you to avoid being staggered when using Diehard.
• But those only work until you hit -CON; Yai-Mimic Spell gives you regeneration (per the monster rules, not the spell that I was looking at - derp), so that you can't die as long as the regeneration is active.
• Once the regeneration effect ends (e.g. if Sven had been fighting a different linnorm that had acid breath), the character dies.

Thanks for indulging the tangent. Fun concept!

Howdy, I can port the Churley build to an alias if necessary.

Mostly I'd like to see how he fairs against a linnorm.

You pretty much got it right. Note, that I actually had to fire off an extra yai-mimic spell after the dragon had died, to keep from dying before I could clear the curse, and land safely. Also, if it wasn't for spell perfection, that yai-mimic spell would have been a full round action, and I was staggered from the boiling blood curse at that point.

Basically, it was a carefully planned assault against a specific creature by a character with 24 intelligence and lots of Kn. Arcana. :D

Have a plan. Execute the plan. Don't die.

posting as ordered.

As we stand right now, we have:

Churley, 18th-level fighter, bidding against what I assume is a tor linnorm. Bid 3.

Nathaniel, 12th-level ranger, bidding against a crag linnorm. Bid 2.

Kaldane Starlight, 20th-level bard, bidding against a tor linnorm. Bid 1.

Unless somebody jumps in with a weird or higher bid, we'll go in that order. I'll be on to post Churley's first post in a few hours, tonight.

OK, Churley is ready.

EDIT: Woops, not ready.

EDIT 2: F@~% it... I probably won't survive but sure... ready.

Level 16 versus Tarn Linnorm

Cool! I'll take a look at your sheet and update the bids when I have the time. Churley's still goin', but with his defenses it looks like he'll pull through against the tor linnorm.

Hey Churley; I'd strongly recommend a Google Chrome extension called Lazarus, saves information you enter into text-areas for recovery later. It's brilliant. Probably a Firefox/etc equivalent.

I'll look into it as I use Chrome.

For PC on PC combat, I'd probably suggest some randomization. Come up with four arenas (big colleseum, rocky mountain top, small meeting chamber), come up with four random time increments of pre-fight prep time (1 round, 1 minute, 3 rounds) and pre-battle day prep-time (one week, one day) and roll some dice. It'll be a real bugger otherwise to try and make fair conditions... though since no one's a pure wizard, who knows.

Well isn't it the point that the Previous winner is to be challenged by the current winner so then the Challenger has control of at least most of that.

Yeah, I've been struggling with what to say to "Do I know Churley is coming?" for a long time. On a certain level, some preparations just completely invalidate the other character, so I want to say no... but on the other hand, some preparations make sense.

Here's my thought:

The current King knows whenever somebody goes out to kill a linnorm. I'm gonna say when they head out, if you want to make preparations THEN (before they actually win) then you totally can.

The challenger gets to choose between a few different arenas for battle (grassy plains, city square, castle room) where they choose to meet up with the current King.

I'll roll a random "they know the other one is there" prep time (1 round, 3 rounds, 1 minute).

Does that sound good to everybody?

I'm more in it for the Linnorm fight than this part, so whatever you judge is fine with me.

Hey, you don't have to fight Sven if you don't want to.

Not big on pvp. Think I'll pass.

Yup, linnorm was the draw. Don't care much beyond that, but I'll face challengers if they want.

Alright! Well, congrats on handily destroying your linnorm target. Who's next?

Dead game I assume?

Well, who's next?

Well you're the GM and there's a ranking system so I believe we're waiting on you.

Let's put it simply- do you have a character ready and a linnorm picked out? If so, then say so and he will run it.

Nathaniel is still ready to face a Crag Linnorm.

Dropping out.