Vox Banner |
Yep, you're right on, Cyrus the Flea. Hunter Tactics, seems really cool, and I can't wait to try these new abilities out this level. Hopefully Einhardt just got a little better in combat.
GM Silbeg |
well, the good news is that my streak of kills in Thornkeep is officially over.
Accursed Halls: 1 kill by wight (2 total)
Forgotten Laboratory: 2 kills (2 runs so far)
Enigma Vault: 1 kill
Dark Menagerie: No kill -- haven't run
Sanctum of a Lost Age: no kills (but came damned close to a TPK!)
Let's hope I don't go 3 for 3 in The Forgotten Laboratory.
(Yes, these levels can be lethal!)
_Ophiuchus_ |
Purchases since chronicle:
Sell: Flail, 4; greatsword 25= 29
Buy: MW Heavy Flail 315; Cold-iron greatsword 100; smoked goggles 5; antiplague 50; a;chemists fire x2 40, holy water x2 50 = 570
1407+29-570=866
GM Silbeg |
Is Ophiuchus wearing the goggles constantly. I ask because they have a pretty severe penalty to perception rolls.
_Ophiuchus_ |
No I am not wearing them. With other characters I have them around the neck, but with Mr. Hairlips, imitation is the highest form of flattery.
GM Silbeg |
I've updated the rolls on the campaign information page... please check to see that I got them all correct.
Strong Brute, you need to update some stuff in your tagline... Perception, for example, is out of date.
Arturo the Swift |
Just as a total bit of metagame... who's interested in clearing things up around town for a while? There seem to be a few quests given (from the last adventure and this one) here and there that we could pick up. There are also locations we haven't been to yet. I'm a bit of a completionist, so I'm kinda interested in sweeping clear in the town before moving on to the menace below ground.
I think we might find clues to the Forgotten Laboratory and that sort of thing (like the ones we got and the ones we missed for Accursed Halls), even if it doesn't strictly count towards our chronicle sheet. Checking out the Mill, the racket for Taronnel, picking up the mining gear and so on. Again, I know it's metagaming a bit, but I just wanted to see what everyone's appetite for doing some pre-dungeon above ground adventuring and/or quest gathering was.
I know that we'll likely still get the ticks on the chronicle sheet if we simply just go down there and clear out every room (and it'll probably be quicker to do so), but I do quite enjoy the Thornkeep RP! I just don't want to slow things down for anyone.
Jaender the Black |
I am with you Arturo! I am a completionist at heart, so I am all about doing these extra things. Lets make a little pick list and just hit them one at a time. though I think Silbeg gave us a clue that the racket is due to the goblins being mad at us for not giving them their sword... yet...
If the majority doesn't want to do the extra stuff, my feelings wont be hurt, just FYI.
Jaender the Black |
Just wanted to bring up the potential of renting the cabin that Silbeg referred to - What benefit does that give us? Just wanted to make sure it was worth it, seems reasonable.
GM Silbeg |
Mostly color... and keeps you out of the more public public house.
Cost wise will be the same (i.e., hand-waved).
Roudantaimi |
Sounds ominous... I'm in!:)
Vox Banner |
I think we would actually be fine, the set-up for a scary movie wouldn't feature an all dude cast.
Now if there were at least one females with us, then cue the axe-murderer and we'd all die except either Roudantaimi or Poochie. The stereotype-esc characters would never survive. Strong Brute is the tough guy of the group, definitely dead. Arturo is the charmer of group, definitely dead. Vox- dead. Weird little shadow dude, dead.
GM Silbeg |
"Oh, these berries..!" Roudantaimi lightens up, recognizing the berry. "I saved up some of those last night, for a groovier dungeon explore.." But reaching to his berry-stash in his pocket, all the gnome finds is gooey juice...
This had me rolling in my desk chair!!!
Arturo the Swift |
Hey questers! I have just updated the Thornkeep Doc with all the quests I could find. I've colored them according to our progress and put in as much relevant info as I could find (they repeat a bit of what was in the rest of the doc).
If I find some more time, I might comb through the gameplay thread to add in some more quests. Feel free to add any more that you know of!
Jaender the Black |
GM Silbeg |
Nope. I will warn you that what you are calling quests are actually rumors. And as rumors go, some are false! Additionally (and I found this to be pretty cool) some are actually not for the Thornkeep modules, but were incorporated into The Emerald Spire!
GM Silbeg |
Don't get me wrong... this is great fun! Just kind of warning you that there are red herrings here (for the Players to know, not the Characters!)
GM Silbeg |
Sorry about that at the mill... as it happens, you got spotted, and what you might have seen didn't happen. Them peoples is paranoid!
GM Silbeg |
All.. I am assuming that things like ear plugs and smoked goggles are not being work by default... that you'll be putting them in as needed.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Roudantaimi |
Ha, Paladins and stealth - unbeatable combination. While there's not much that can improve the roll, Roudantaimi actually has +3 stealth since he's small. I need to mark that on the character.
As ominous as your question sounds, Roudi doesn't have earplugs or smoked goggles on by default.
Jaender the Black |
You are correct, my ear plugs and goggles are off by default, hanging around my neck so they can be put on with a move action.
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GM Silbeg |
Ha, Paladins and stealth - unbeatable combination. While there's not much that can improve the roll, Roudantaimi actually has +3 stealth since he's small. I need to mark that on the character.
Cool... I'll update my rolls. Still not good enough to have mattered at the mill.
As ominous as your question sounds, Roudi doesn't have earplugs or smoked goggles on by default.
Not trying to be ominous... just seeing if I need to add the penalties on now (they are pretty significant).
Arturo the Swift |
All.. I am assuming that things like ear plugs and smoked goggles are not being work by default... that you'll be putting them in as needed.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
You are not wrong. Seems silly (or paranoid) to be wearing them all the time. Hopefully we'll get some sign of trouble ahead and can slip them over my eyes / into my ears as needed.
Arturo the Swift |
Since we are largely unhurried, any reason we shouldn't take 20 on perception once we've cleared every room? We are, after all, in the hunt for clues and treasure!
Also, GM Silbeg can I just say that Arturo is being careful and always checks for traps down every corridor and in every room and down every passageway and... etc? I'm happy for you to roll off-screen. If it is very dark, he will ask Jaender to check for him.
Jaender the Black |
I agree with everything Arturo just said...
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Strong Brute |
That sounds good to me. I don't think you can take 20 for searching for traps, though, as there is an inherent price of failure.
GM Silbeg |
Roudi has a pretty slow rate of fire until he has enough fame for a double-barreled pistol. Maybe I'll need to buy a backup weapon while waiting that. Oh, and Roudi has healing (lay on hands) also, if Poochie has better use for his spells. They're not as effective, but anyway
Either save up for a double-barreled musket (does better damage) or a pepperbox pistol (4 shots instead of 2 before reloading). Also note, that with Rapid Reload, you can reload a Pistol as a free action (with alchemical paper cartridges), so if you take the feat, you don't really need the double-barreled cheese.
GM Silbeg |
That sounds good to me. I don't think you can take 20 for searching for traps, though, as there is an inherent price of failure.
Actually...
Perception to find traps is listed as an example of Taking 20. However, there may be some traps (magical, etc) that proximity is enough to trigger... in which case you were screwed anyway. It does take a full minute to take 20, though. And, you'll need to declare specifically when doing it, 'cause of the time. :DArturo the Swift |
So much more fun to roll on searching for traps. As you say, I'll state if I take 20 for that. For searching rooms, though, with 1 assist on either Jaender or Vox, we get a 30 by taking 20. That should be (and I think everyone agrees) our standard "search the cleared room" roll, unless we need to preserve buffs (in which case, we'll come back and search).
GM Silbeg |
Just let me know when you are planning on rolling, instead of taking 20... before I post the results :P
Jaender the Black |
Yes, I agree with Arturo - take 20 on searching rooms as an SOP - provided we aren't trying to rush due to some short term spells. We can be sure to note that specifically.
Regarding the proximity issue for traps - likely the only way around that is the trap sense, where the GM rolls automatically for you within 10 feet. Or to just make rolls every 5 feet or so.
Totally aside from what we are doing, but I did read some interesting forum threads on that a while back. There was quite a bit of debate on how the take 20 when searching for traps should be ruled. do you have to take 20 for every 5' square? every room? part of the room? Seemed like it was open to a lot of GM discretion. I think what we have figured out is good though.
Also, at what point (since it is dark down here besides our own light spells) do you want jaender to do the scouting with his darkvision and stealth check? Let me know, otherwise he will continue to stay safely in the back. :)
GM Silbeg |
So, here's how I pretty much do it...
You declare you are taking 20 on a perception check... you are basically looking around for a minute... I'll then look to see what is there that you could see (including traps), and then apply any penalties (distance, etc), and let you know what you see.
Make sense?
Arturo the Swift |
Oi! No cheating, GM! :-P
Ophiuchus just stole your spot! I'm gonna risk leap-frogging the chief, if you want to just stay where you are... assuming no-one moves in behind him. Of course, Silbeg's probably reading this and someone probably does!
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Hahahah. It just took me a minute! I got it eventually :)
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