If we could get the ogres outside we might not even have to deal with the spider till we get close to it.
Point, but the cage keeps the spider from getting them either.
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F@#~ it, we're not going to come to any consensus so there's no point. Lets just attack and get this over with.
I think sending one or two people to face/ occupy the spider will get them killed.
If we lose, probably means we are underleveled which is outside of our control. Two PC's should be plenty against any spider that isnt of a colossal or gargantuan size.
1 Bigass Spider + 3 Ogrekin who probably have class levels.
Said spider having any other special abilities or not underestimating things gets you killed more often than not.
There's 7 of us.
2 people vs 1 spider.
5 people vs 3 ogre.
Like, you can make it 3v1 and 4v3, but either way, that is_massive_action economy advantage. You get extra movement, extra attacks, heck, even positional advantages like flanking. If we were a small party then fair enough, ok, I can understand the argument, but we almost outnumber them 2 to 1, so why not divide and conquer, instead of taking the risk that one of them has sorcerer levels and avoid grouping up for a bigass AoE like Blank Tantacles or Fireball?
Look over how the last two fights with a single ogrekin went. Yes we killed them, but they took chunks out of us.
The issue I'm worried about is going after the ogres one of them or its some spider variant that just drops a Dominate on you (which f!!%s us), or Black Tantacles, Cloudkill, Fireball, or any AoE ever. Its at a level where we need to be aware of these things - and we dont have a great track record when we cluster vs magic.
Worrying about dominate factors into about any fight, not just this one. And we can hopefully avoid AoEs by clumping aroudn the enemies.
Splitting the party in a fight and fighting on 2 fronts at once is a tactical error.
Each time anyone in this group has gone off ahead of others and tried to face something solo, they've only survived because of in combat healing.
Smarter move would be to not provoke the spider and engage the ogres. If they bring the spider into it, fine so be it, but if not, take them out first then the spider. At that point we can attack it from both sides using the tunnel.
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If one of us gets dominated, Hold person can take them out of the fight.
If we identify a caster well Hold Person (DC 18), Lipstitch (DC 17), Glitterdust (DC 17 for blindness), Silence (DC 17 if cast on person/held item) can make for a pretty crappy day, especially after a hex drops their saves, and if needed Bestow curse drops them more. At net -6 to saves or -9 if a second hex to drops their Wisdom/ lower Will save, there’s little chance of stopping any of those caster killer spells.
You're right, at this level casters are the big threat. It's what I'm built to deal with.
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If we lose, probably means we are underleveled which is outside of our control.
For the record, I disagree with this assertion.
So what are we doing?
Do whatever idc anymore
Okay, can we just calm down a bit and relax. This is just a game, and honestly, I'd rather not be playing in a game where people wind up getting all hot under the collar.
Honestly, I think we could survive a fight with Elisai's plan, but I'd rather stay in a group, if the spider attacks the prisoners, well, we'll just have to deal with that when it comes up.
Thoughts?
We need to quit overthinking this mess and so, unfortunately for planning, the dragon has started s%&~ this time.
Shattered Star has resumed for those playing in it.
"I'm gonna kill the first thing through the door"
*Hail of arrows*
"Well $#!+"
heheh
Yes ShadowLord. Giants are Delendir favored enemy, including the campaign trait. So: +5 (str) +1 (magic bow) +5 (favored enemy) = +11 x2 manyshot = +22 damage on first attack. The others should be half.
Note to self, bring more Giants next time.
I know a couple of you here play Pathfinder Society since you've been in my games before. Is anyone interested in receiving a PFS chronicle sheet for the completion of book two of Rise of the Runelords?
Don't play (so don't even know what to do with it), but thanks for the offer.
Same. I'm technically in the PFS but don't do anything with it.
OK, no worries just thought I'd offer it up. It counts as a full module worth of XP (3) and Prestige (4), so it's kind of a big deal. If anyone is interested please send me your PFS ID# you want it applied to.
Oh, is that all we have to do?
Mine's 121682. I don't play but I guess i might as well bank it. Souvenir.
Yep. All I need the character number to assign it to as well. If you don't have one you can just create one in a few seconds and send it there as placeholder.
I'll do that on one of mine, I'll let you know which.
Okies, i'll try to think of a character then.
Oh, I still have Dezco (poor Dezco, you were fun...)
# 121682-2
I am definitely interested, more for the sickness of completion than the rewards. In fact I would like the chronicle on Slow mode.
Character: 134452-3 (Vailis)
I have one, but I haven't played since I graduated five years ago.
Also, I wasn't complaining, just commenting. If you want, you can have them riddle Ragnhildr with holes and she just keeps coming. She'd appreciate the comparison to Juggernaut. :P
*scratches head*
I guess there's not anything for Sunday to do this turn then.
Don't feel bad, there's nothing I can do either.
If we weren't on a narrow pathway I'd make you bigger so you'd have reach Elisai. If Delendir retreats he's all yours.....hopefully paralysed.
I was hopping to step back to shot the spider and leave space to Elisai to engage, but I will have no access to PC until late at night.
So can you put the pfs logsheet onto a character below the level bracket? All I have are 1st levels and I believe the range for the log sheet was 4-7 or some such.
Yes, you can. The chronicle will be applied once you reach level 4 with that character.
Lol, that'll take a while. I rarely get to play society as the only group I know of travels around the area and only plays close enough when I, naturally, can't be there.
Wish I had thought to do that 3 f~$$ing days ago -_-
I have Sunday and Delendir's PFS numbers, Krysta did you want to give me yours? Any other takers? I am going to fill this thing out this week.
#2164.
Yeah, might as well I'll add it to someone eventually.
# 138480
Sunday did not charge Mammy, he charged the prone Ogrekin next to Grace and Yavenee.
How does Displacement interact with my tremor sense? Do I still have the miss chance or do I get to ignore that?
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I'm guessing you ignore it.
A creature with tremorsense is sensitive to vibrations in the ground and can automatically pinpoint the location of anything that is in contact with the ground. Aquatic creatures with tremorsense can also sense the location of creatures moving through water. The ability’s range is specified in the creature’s descriptive text.
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Yup visual illusions are irrelevant!
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Ah, I must have marked this read by accident and missed it. I agree completely, I'd say tremorsense > her attempts to hide behind an illusion.
Sunday Level 7
HP +10
+1 BAB
Damage Reduction 1/-
+1 Fearless
+1 Perception
+1 Survival
+1 ???
+1 ???
VMC Sorcerer: Vampiric Bloodline 3rd Level power