GM Dinketry and the Dead Suns AP (Inactive)

Game Master dinketry

They've gone.....to plaid!

Jagjug

The Drift Rock


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Grand Lodge

The Mountain's Maw |

Correct, though I'll check it with the Powers That Be.


I put up a post on the rules questions forum too because when I thought about it my thoughts were, in order:

1)Wait, that can't be right.
2)But it's technically possible.
3)But that's crazy, they must have thought of this.
4)Oh dear, they didn't.

Then I broke out in maniacal laughter.

Exo-Guardians

Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

I will also have Engineering, so I too can backup.

I intend to be able to backup any role except Captain.


Male Lashunta Solarian 3 | HP 9/25, SP 21/21 | Fort +1, Ref -1, Will +0 | EAC 13, KAC 14 | Perc. +1 | Init -2
Status:
  • 1 STR Damage
  • Sickened (-2 attacks, saves, damage, skills, ability checks)
  • You could do add Tensile Reinforcement, but it wouldn't do anything. Your android doesn't have an item level.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    By that logic it also means I can't use deflective reinforcement or load lifter since my android doesn't have built in armor absent getting augmentations.

    Hence the request for a clarification because I'm certain that it's not something you could do, or that there'd be a note in the item description such as "androids cannot benefit from this upgrade in their native upgrade slot".


    Male Lashunta Solarian 3 | HP 9/25, SP 21/21 | Fort +1, Ref -1, Will +0 | EAC 13, KAC 14 | Perc. +1 | Init -2
    Status:
  • 1 STR Damage
  • Sickened (-2 attacks, saves, damage, skills, ability checks)
  • Eh, both of those things grant something to you (DR, or increased bulk capacity). I think just about all of the upgrades reference the armor giving you benefits as that's the assumed format for an armor upgrade.

    That said, I know no more than any of you guys, just offering up my opinion on my reading of the rules.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    No worries! Like many others have said elsewhere Starfinder seems full of these weird little contradictions or disconnects.

    I'm sure they've got a huge errata file running but since were in the first SFS wave might as well look for the unfair advantages.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    Unless I misinterpret name colors on the forums, Telion needs to get that character registered as a SFS character.


    Male Lashunta Solarian 3 | HP 9/25, SP 21/21 | Fort +1, Ref -1, Will +0 | EAC 13, KAC 14 | Perc. +1 | Init -2
    Status:
  • 1 STR Damage
  • Sickened (-2 attacks, saves, damage, skills, ability checks)
  • This character is not a SFS character. I'm applying credit to my second SFS character (702), as if playing with a pregen, in accordance with the rules detailed in the AP sanctioning document.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |
    Telion of Castrovel wrote:
    This character is not a SFS character. I'm applying credit to my second SFS character (702), as if playing with a pregen, in accordance with the rules detailed in the AP sanctioning document.

    That's cool by me.

    Additionally, August, I've been thinking about your armour upgrade question, and until there's an actual ruling on it by someone official, I'm going to interpret that armour upgrade slot rule for androids my way.

  • 1.) You only get an armour upgrade that would go into light armour. Some upgrades won't apply.
  • 2.) You can only choose an armour upgrade of your equivalent character level or lower. (i.e. armour level 1 only at this point)
  • 3.)Tensile Reinforcement: This would affect your armour. If you're not wearing armour, this would simply be a 5hp bonus. The hardness would not apply.

    How does that sound?

  • Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    Fine by me - just to clarify, can I use mods I can put in any armor or heavy/light armor as well?

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    Nope. Light armour only. See #1 above.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    OK, I think I got it.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5
    Telion of Castrovel wrote:
    This character is not a SFS character. I'm applying credit to my second SFS character (702), as if playing with a pregen, in accordance with the rules detailed in the AP sanctioning document.

    I'm not sure that's legal. If we were in Campaign Mode it would, but I thought I read that all characters had to be Society characters?

    Of course, the sanctioning document says we get 3 XP for playing it, and I've never understood how PFS characters could play an AP like that. Even if they say double the XP, simply doubling the gp or credits you'd fall behind WBL.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    As I said, I'm fine with it. We've gone thru the SFS stuff. We are in Campaign mode.

    Jaxom, it is your turn in the Gameplay thread.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    Campaign mode it is!

    I took my actions just now.


    Male Lashunta Solarian 3 | HP 9/25, SP 21/21 | Fort +1, Ref -1, Will +0 | EAC 13, KAC 14 | Perc. +1 | Init -2
    Status:
  • 1 STR Damage
  • Sickened (-2 attacks, saves, damage, skills, ability checks)
  • How do you write a telepathic communication? Are bold italics not appropriate? I thought it was:

    Italics = thought
    Bold = external communication

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    I play a Faerie Dragon in another game on here. I use bold italics for it.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    Yeah, I think you're correct, Telion. My mistake - I don't know why I didn't see the italics.

    BTW, I'm also using bold italics for overhead announcements and anything printed on a screen.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5
    Telion of Castrovel wrote:
    "Are you a medic?"

    I must admit that I am torn between "No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night" and some form of "I'm not a doctor, I'm a XXX"

    Acquisitives

    Female Lashunta Envoy (Icon) 3 | SP 15/15, HP 17/22, RP 4/5, EAC 11, KAC 13, AC vs CM 21 | F +2, R +3, W +3 | Init +0 | Perc +6, Sense Motive +6+1d6 | Battery 20/20 charges

    Leaving for my cruise now. Bot mode, activate!

    I will generally try to stay down and stick with Telion to get out of here alive. If we have to shoot our way out, I will use get 'em! and fire at the closest enemy each round.

    Back on Friday!

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    Enjoy!

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    By Friday we may even have gotten out of the docking bay! :D

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    The dice, they are not on my side.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    They do seem to be against you.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    I know the feeling all too well.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    Bon voyage and happy birthday, Diamaante!

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    Dang dice roller. I swear 95% of the min/maxing in PbP is a result of the dice roller.

    RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

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    As the guy who wrote the die roller, I promise its statistically fair.

    But damn, it doesn't feel that way sometimes.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    It was you?!

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    Hmmm....I should be using Trick Attack more.

    Question: as I read it if I fail Trick Attack and make the attack roll I still successfully hit but if I make the Trick Attack and fail the attack roll I don't successfully hit, correct?

    RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

    Sorry, GM. I didn't realize you wanted initiative order for postings. I was just trying to get my next action up to maintain momentum, but I'll wait my turn in the future.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11
    Ross Byers wrote:
    Sorry, GM. I didn't realize you wanted initiative order for postings. I was just trying to get my next action up to maintain momentum, but I'll wait my turn in the future.

    What kind of evil brain kept alive in a vat of green goo are you? (Good brains kept alive in vats only have blue goo, obviously.)

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    Diamaante is up, right? That's you GM.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |
    August Vydoc wrote:

    Hmmm....I should be using Trick Attack more.

    Question: as I read it if I fail Trick Attack and make the attack roll I still successfully hit but if I make the Trick Attack and fail the attack roll I don't successfully hit, correct?

    That is the way that I interpret it, yes, August.

    Ross Byers wrote:
    Sorry, GM. I didn't realize you wanted initiative order for postings. I was just trying to get my next action up to maintain momentum, but I'll wait my turn in the future.

    No worries, Ross. I simply didn't want the other people at your initiative point in order to post their actions before the gunmen fired off their rounds.

    Jaxom wrote:
    Diamaante is up, right? That's you GM.

    Yup, I'm on it. Just woke up here in New Zealand.


    Male Lashunta Solarian 3 | HP 9/25, SP 21/21 | Fort +1, Ref -1, Will +0 | EAC 13, KAC 14 | Perc. +1 | Init -2
    Status:
  • 1 STR Damage
  • Sickened (-2 attacks, saves, damage, skills, ability checks)
  • Would Black Hole be able to pull the 2 behind the barrels out, or would they just bounce into the barrels and not move?

    RPG Superstar 2008 Top 32

    By my reading, they'd hit the barrels and stop moving. If you can get some altitude, maybe you can pull them out and over the barrels? How is your Athletics check? Jumping 5 feet high is a DC 20 check.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    It definitely doesn't mention how much of a solid object stops creatures' movement so it's gonna be a judgement call without errata regarding cover.

    If they're in partial cover I'd say you can pull them but that's me.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5
    GM Dinketry wrote:
    Yup, I'm on it. Just woke up here in New Zealand.

    Some day I shall visit Middle Earth myself!

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    Telion, if you were aligned so that pulling them towards you would not result in them hitting a solid object, I'd rule that you could pull both towards you. Unfortunately, we'll have to try that out at another time, as I pre-empted your action for a different one after August dropped your initial target.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    How big do you think the object need to be?

    I read it as more a hedge to keep solarions from pulling people through walls, but I could see the argument as long as the can grab on to something to keep from flying they'd be fine.

    Grass is technically a solid object but I'd definitely rule grass or a shrubery (no matter how nice or herring proof) wouldn't keep you from being pulled.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    I think a barrel is solid enough. Grass isn't.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    A herring proof shrubbery would make for a strong argument.

    Arguments like this help me to explain why Alexander Hamilton was so confident leading up to his eventually fatal dual. His past experiences at seeming invulnerability never let him realize that he wasn't actually invulnerable, but that what he had was DR 50/Aaron Burr.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    I am not throwing away my. Shot.


    Male Lashunta Solarian 3 | HP 9/25, SP 21/21 | Fort +1, Ref -1, Will +0 | EAC 13, KAC 14 | Perc. +1 | Init -2
    Status:
  • 1 STR Damage
  • Sickened (-2 attacks, saves, damage, skills, ability checks)
  • I need to find some guys conveniently on the opposite edge of a railing-less cliff... =P

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    Get the GM to send us to a galaxy far, far away: guard rails are apparently banned by law there.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    Just realized I could run a Futurama-style Starfinder adventure.

    Too. Much. Fun.

    Grand Lodge

    The Mountain's Maw |

    What do you think I'm trying to do?

    Oh, that's right, figure out my ass from my elbow.

    Exo-Guardians

    Male Human Operative SP 7/7 | HP 10/10 | RP 5/5 | EAC 16 KAC 17 | Fort +1 Ref +6, Will +2 | init +5

    That's all of us as we sort out the rules differences.

    Dataphiles

    M Android Operative (Detective) | Level 3 | SP 10/21, HP 17/22, RP 3/4, EAC 14, KAC 15, AC vs CM 23| F +2 R +6 W +4| Init + 5 | Perc +9 | Acro + 11

    Considering how ingrained 3.0/3.5/Pathfinder is in me it'll be interesting.

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