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Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

Messaged Irlana, gonna give her a couple days to respond before anything goes down. we can move on in the initiative order though, so things don't slow down.


NG Half-elf Occultist 1| HP 9/9| AC 16 T13 FF13| Fort +3 Ref +4 Will +2| Perc +6| Init +6

Does the shy bug's behavior mean I can adjust my action? Or are we in the next round?


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

Next Round


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

Still no response from Irlana, how does the group want to proceed?

we can ignore it and continue with what we have

i can go and recruit someone else

anything is an option, I wanted to see what you guys thought


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

I would get someone else. Our first replacement is easily our most active player, who's to say another replacement won't be the same?


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Male Lizardfolk Barbarian 3 (Invulnerable Rager)|| HP: 38/38 [44/44 w:rage], AC: 18 (16 w:rage) (FF: 16 T: 12) || Init: +2, Fort: 7 (9 vs magic w:rage) Ref: 3 (5 vs magic w:rage) Will: 4 (6 w:rage, 8 vs Magic)|| Per: +9

I could play another character!


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Demonic Eidolon | HP: 15/15 | AC: 16, T: 12 I, FF: 14 | Fort: 4, Reflex: 5, Will: 0 | CMB: 5, CMD:170 | Init: +2 | Perception: +5

That sounds like someone I know...


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

things should start back up by tommorow, i'm picking from the applicants tonight.


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Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

Hello all looks like I will be joining you guys

I will be on the road all day (taking son back to college in NYC)


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

Welcome!


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

I will have to read up some on what you guys have been up to.

the only interesting thing I see right now is a certain Eidolon

Sister Azmaria has an Oath against Fiends and evil Outsiders She is an aspiring Crusader and this mission is to "get her some experience"

as well as finding out about her visions about dragons.

Also I have never played nor read Dragon's Demand. So I know nothing about it.

I only am going by the title that there are dragons involved somehow.


Dirty Commoner/2 || HP: 0/0, AC: 10 (10, active buff) (FF: 10 [10 w/active buff] T: 10) || Init: +0, Fort: +0 Ref: +0 Will: +0 || Per: +0
Daelendross Phaernemn wrote:
"Rust monsters, maybe?"

You should know better than to throw around the R-word to a martial like that. One who worships the Lord in Iron, too! Now he's triggered.

Spoiler:
Don't know how well that came across but, I kid. Like goat.

Edit for context.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

huh? what are you talking about?


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

it's in the gameplay thread...they have seen rust colored blood


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

Ok all caught up reading, but it is late for me.

Will post tomorrow after work with some sort of intro and a reason why she was not with you guys.

I am not sure it would be easy to just say she was with you all along.

Just makes a little more sense to join as you guys finished the battle. that way I can actually get a chance to introduce myself and such.


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

Might not post for a couple of days. Really bad side effects from medicine I'm taking. Sorry.


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

not a problem


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Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

I made a pintrest board for this game and set it to private. if you send me your e-mail I can send an invite to allow you to add pictures and visual references for the game.

just PM me your e-mail. and be sure to tell me its for this game so i don't invite you to the wrong board.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

Did I chase people away?


Male Lizardfolk Barbarian 3 (Invulnerable Rager)|| HP: 38/38 [44/44 w:rage], AC: 18 (16 w:rage) (FF: 16 T: 12) || Init: +2, Fort: 7 (9 vs magic w:rage) Ref: 3 (5 vs magic w:rage) Will: 4 (6 w:rage, 8 vs Magic)|| Per: +9

I don't know about anybody else, I'm just waiting for the next step, since this doesn't seem to be a multi-person task.


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

I've been swamped at work, sick, and then when I did have time, my groups I'm a GM in had a LOT of updates I was keeping up with. I should be good now.


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

Do your gm a favor someone check this out tell me if this link to a battle map is working


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

Do not have permission to access


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

I was afraid of that problem, try this one. if this doesn't work we will keep doing the way prior.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

I have a grey square is there supposed to be more?


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

for now that's it, just wanted to get a link working. i'm going to add a bit more when needed and as i figure out how this site works.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

I clicked on stuff, is that alright? I won't click on stuff anymore... well except what I am supposed to click on. should I stop clicking now?


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

it's fine click on things and figure it out, learning experiences for us all


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

Sorry guys. Fighting another infection. Worst two weeks ever. Will update when I can.


Male Lizardfolk Barbarian 3 (Invulnerable Rager)|| HP: 38/38 [44/44 w:rage], AC: 18 (16 w:rage) (FF: 16 T: 12) || Init: +2, Fort: 7 (9 vs magic w:rage) Ref: 3 (5 vs magic w:rage) Will: 4 (6 w:rage, 8 vs Magic)|| Per: +9

Wait, what healing? Ahah! Foiled!

Edit: Dunno if it's hard to tell, but Azruk is really bad at looking pleasant. Even when he's trying to play nice. Like he is now.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

Sorry all, my computer graphic card died and been the last two days getting things working again.


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

no problem, i've been having computer issues to


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

I think we need to figure out why we are here again? what we are looking for again? and what is there about Kobolds, are they the bad guys or the good guys? I know some are dead, but are we trying to kill more or find out why they are dead and kill that person or thing? I think some refreshers may be needed here.

not to mention I am totally at a loss at where we are or where we are going.


Dirty Commoner/2 || HP: 0/0, AC: 10 (10, active buff) (FF: 10 [10 w/active buff] T: 10) || Init: +0, Fort: +0 Ref: +0 Will: +0 || Per: +0

We're here to figure out why the tower collapsed, I believe.


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

That would be correct

The tower collapsed, your here to find out why and are uncovering some pretty weird stuff


Dirty Commoner/2 || HP: 0/0, AC: 10 (10, active buff) (FF: 10 [10 w/active buff] T: 10) || Init: +0, Fort: +0 Ref: +0 Will: +0 || Per: +0

And currently, we asplora, like Dora.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

but we haven't found any clue on why the tower collapsed yet, right


Dirty Commoner/2 || HP: 0/0, AC: 10 (10, active buff) (FF: 10 [10 w/active buff] T: 10) || Init: +0, Fort: +0 Ref: +0 Will: +0 || Per: +0

Correct. So, more asploring we need. As long as it isn't a "Kill all those squishy guys" kind of will save I just bombed.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

ya would think that if a paladin takes the oath against fiends that would make knowledge planes a class skill, heck you would think every Paladin would get knowledge planes as a class skill...


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

Ya know i always thought devils and demons would be under knowledge religion myself


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

I took knowledge planes since I expected them to be planes thing (outsider type and all)

no ranks in knowledge religion.

heck I don't have enough skill points to get much of anything.


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

Hey I failed and I got a +8 and my class is all ABOUT outsiders.

This could be an unusual specimen.

I think the background skills being implemented helped.

Paladins have a LOT of good features if you're not fighting neutrals. You can't be good at everything. I have 2+ also.


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

Oh Lord do you know how long it will take to kill a creature with DR that can turn invisible at will at level one?! This...Will be a while.


Dirty Commoner/2 || HP: 0/0, AC: 10 (10, active buff) (FF: 10 [10 w/active buff] T: 10) || Init: +0, Fort: +0 Ref: +0 Will: +0 || Per: +0

Or, you know, it's already grappled, so...


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

what is a real problem here for me is the fact that I have a sworn oath to destroy evil outsiders whenever I have the means to do so. yet game mechanics does not allow me to identify my sworn enemy.

Thus I have sworn to destroy that which i have never seen nor know how to identify. kind of weird if you ask me.

If we decide to switch knowledge of demons and devils to knowledge religion then I would like to switch my skill ranks (knowledge religion is a class skill for Paladin where as Knowledge planes is not)

In this situation I pretty much went with player knowledge and thus it is my bad there.

So technically the vote is... loose a Paladin or loose the help of a demon. (If I let it live I loose Paladinhood due to violating the oath)

As far as Bazo goes, that again goes with the knowledge checks, I can't recognize my sworn enemy even when they stand in front of me.

but I also realize that Bazo is bound to someone that is not evil. of course I am sure that eventually Azmaria will be pulling her gun on Bazo.


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

Or you could put more points in int.

It's a trade off. I'd like to have enough skill points to actually be good at spellcraft, you know, as a spellcaster.

And I don't think you violate an oath you're ignorant. That would be ridiculous. You don't know WHAT this is. It could be a fey for all you know.

Anyway Dael isn't gonna leave if you kill it, he'll just think your'e way too trigger happy.

We players can override our characters, you know. It's not always "well my character would" - my motto os if it leads to disharmony, Change how your character would react. This is a group game.

I will say picking a demon hunter in a party that you were joining that already had a demon summoner is no different than playing a necromancer when you know the party has a cleric of Pharasma. Not harmonious.


Male Dungeon Master Dungeon Master / 21 levels

The gm is here to solve the issue

Starting with the knowledges thing everything stays as is, my comment about devils and demons was more intended as just a comment not a change in rules. Of course if no one has an issue with change i will allow it because frankly it's ridiculous that they can't identify creatures like demons and devils that are literally the epitome of evil

on to the actually current game issue: technically none of you know what he is as no one actually made the proper check to identify it . of course if i missed or forgot something feel free to correct me.

Also it isn't a demon it's a devil, there's a huge difference lore wise between the two.

Also no one will fall or whatever for one bad decision i like to think gods of good are a little more lenient than that.


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Male Lizardfolk Barbarian 3 (Invulnerable Rager)|| HP: 38/38 [44/44 w:rage], AC: 18 (16 w:rage) (FF: 16 T: 12) || Init: +2, Fort: 7 (9 vs magic w:rage) Ref: 3 (5 vs magic w:rage) Will: 4 (6 w:rage, 8 vs Magic)|| Per: +9

Furthermore, I'd point out that a Paladin, can in fact work with evil if it's temporary (and in Azmaria's case, even begrudgingly, or unknowingly) if it's for a greater good. And of course, said evil is firmly under the control of non-evil. It's right in there in your code to give you some much needed wiggle room for this exact sort of thing.

There are a few directions you could try out for a paladin sworn to fight demons and devils if they'll be working with an Eidolon. As far as not being able to identify them, I agree. It's super weird Know: Planes isn't on the paladin skill list, but you do have ranks in it. You could have taken 10, since you're not in danger.

Hope any of that helps in the future.

Edit: As to a vote on the class skill thing, I'm okay with the adjustment. Not like Paladins are gonna be even half-decent skill monkeys either way.


Summoner | HP: 12/12 | AC: 15, T: 12 I, FF: 13 | Fort: 1, Reflex: 2, Will: 3 | CMB: 0, CMD:12 | Init: +4 | Perception: +7

I don't have a problem with it either. Please don't let my comments confuse that fact.


Female LG azata-blooded aasimar (musetouched) paladin (oath against fiends, holy gun) 3 | HP:27/27 | AC: 17 (T: 14, F: 13) | CMB: +4, CMD: 18 | F: +9, R: +9, W: +7 | Init: +4 | Perc: +1 | Speed 30ft | Active conditions: None. |

Truthfully I am good either way, sometime my rats are merely verbalizing some thoughts of craziness. many times they are meaningless.

yes Azmaria is a little trigger happy at times, but she is young and naive as to the ways of things. (the joys of low level in inexperience)

I hope to have her grow more mature and insightful as time passes.

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