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Disjunction

Game Master Diamondust

A lost city found. A group of scientists lost.


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Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7
Diamondust wrote:


Cooil and Desmond and others perhaps

Sorry, forgot about your photoshoot. Finding a good place where there is a clear line of sight to the Angel for your camera takes a few minutes of searching. Some of the villagers watch you, curious about this device you have, convinced it is magical. The photos show that once the brightness of it dims there are no observable features on its surface like are on earth's moon. That doesn't mean that there aren't features on its surface, just that the light coming from it is allowing no shadows to fall for the camera to detect any. Photographic proof of such a strange phenomenon will be invaluable when explaining this back on earth. Earth, it seems especially far away tonight.

Between this and his conversation with Gordon, not sure which is happening first, but such is the weirdness of forum pbp

"Interesting to say the least. I have to admit I'm out of my element when it comes to explaining such astrologucal phenomenon."

Desmond begins to chuckle at himself, "I don't kniw why I'm still reaching for rational explanations for what's going in here. I mean, Cooil, you had a conversation with a fox! That the orb which lights this world is an angelic being is equally as plausible now as any scientific explanation we can come up with. I think from here on out, I'm going to start taking things on faith."


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9

Cooil is disappointed the pictures did not reveal more, but takes comfort that in science, even a null result can be valuable for what hypotheses it excludes. He tries one more thing to get more info on the Angel. If he can create a prism, he will try to view the spectrum of the light from the sky. He will also see if he can detect any infrared or ultraviolet light.

knowledge (engineering): 1d20 + 14 ⇒ (19) + 14 = 33

During the prayer song, Cooil sings along, trying to provide a bass line. While he's not a great singer, he's used to singing hymns. He offers to teach them a simple song to share in the spirit of the effort. Its words are, "For health and strength and daily bread we give thee thanks our Lord." The melody is a simple descending scale that can also be sung as a round.

At the appropriate (private) time he shares with Qualin his experience with the fox. "It sounds like I am being offered an initiation into a special role. Can you tell me what might happen if I return and agree to learn more? And what do you think the fox meant when he said that, 'The angel does what it thinks is best, but there is always someone who suffers as a result'?"


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9
Father McKinley wrote:
Diamondust wrote:


Cooil and Desmond and others perhaps

Desmond begins to chuckle at himself, "I don't kniw why I'm still reaching for rational explanations for what's going in here. I mean, Cooil, you had a conversation with a fox! That the orb which lights this world is an angelic being is equally as plausible now as any scientific explanation we can come up with. I think from here on out, I'm going to start taking things on faith."

"I've always had trouble understanding that word faith. Always seems to mean something different, but too often it means I really wish this were true. No disrespect meant, Father; just something I've observed. I think too often we look for answers in the wrong direction, out there," Cooil gestures toward the light in the sky, "instead of in here," and he points to his heart and then his head.

Then he quotes something he heard in a movie of all places: And finally this question, the mystery of whose story it will be. Of who draws the curtain. Who is it that chooses our steps in the dance? Who drives us mad? Lashes us with whips and crowns us with victory when we survive the impossible? Who is it, that does all of these things? Who honors those we love for the very life we live? Who sends monsters to kill us, and at the same time sings that we will never die? Who teaches us what's real and how to laugh at lies? Who decides why we live and what we'll die to defend? Who chains us? And who holds the key that can set us free... It's you. You have all the weapons you need. Now fight!


Female Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | Fort +3 Ref +3 Will +6 | Initiative +1 | Perception +11

Sounds like a teen romance, really. "Love is all you need." Faith is not just hope... it's belief made real, not just because you clap your hands for tinkerbell or some fictional nonsense, but because you are so confident in your belief in something actual that you are willing to act on it and live by it. And that is a power in the lives of those with that confidence, and who have made the effort to find out for themselves, even if the evidence isn't tactile enough for all. You want to rely on yourself, that's great... but God makes me better than I could ever be without him. All of this, around us, this is evidence of something beyond ourselves. Seems a silly time to be arguing against faith.

Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7

"I've seen some truly remarkable things done in the name of faith. Faith is beyond belief, and has more to do with trust than all else. I agree with Janice that faith gives us the will to act, because we trust in the goodness or rightness of our actions. Of course, it was Crowley who said something to the effect of, it is not faith but certainty which makes magic work. What I'm saying is, I think I'm going to act here on out on the faith that an Angel watches over this planet we are on, and not just a hot ball of boiling gas. Yes, somehow that lifts a great burden from my heart."


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9

"I've got no problem with faith in general. I have faith in our ability to figure this out. I have faith in you all and in my own inner resources. But what in this new realm can we have faith in? This could all be an illusion or an evil plot or a world of demons or angels of a sort we have never imagined.

"We only have what we brought with us. Keep in mind, one the residents told me that when this angel acts there is always someone who suffers as a result. I'm not sure I have faith that the magical translation 'angel' matches our own mythological sense of the word. But of course, we each must do what we think best, so don't let my musings distract you from that."


Janice

"Always be careful not to build the flame higher than you can control. I burnt myself badly learning this very lesson as a child. Never rush." You now have Prestidigitation and Detect Magic as known Cantrips. More can be discovered with more 'practise'. You also have the feat Eschew Materials.

Cooil

This would be after he comes back from meeting with Janice Qualin is surprised that you were given such an intimate encounter with the spirits. "Only the Gardeners commune with the spirits. This is a strange thing indeed. Do you talk to the spirits of your world?" He seems confused at the fox's words, "You must have misheard it, or it is testing you. The spirits would never speak against the Angel. Perhaps it meant that those who fight the Angel will suffer, such as the Forsaken in their darkness, for they go against what is best. Perhaps you should speak to a Gardener. The one who alerted us to your presence might still be here, but they are nomadic, calling the entire area of our people which they maintain, their home, rarely visiting our villages."

With the prism of glass you split the light and view the results which look just the same as when you have done this demonstration on earth. At least light is still the same everywhere in the universe. Your eyes cannot detect infrared or ultraviolet so I'm not sure what you meant by that.

Gordon

Though you have figured out how to decipher this book, it is FILLED with formulae. Making sense of it all will be slow going. There doesn't seem to be the tools possessed by the tree people but you know there is the Citadel they keep mentioning. Otherwise if you found your way back to earth you could easily acquire the tools and materials to test the truth of the book. "You found it lying in the rubble of a room with a destroyed door?" He seems more worried about the fact that a door was destroyed than the seeming 'miracle' of a book surviving such violence. "There would be panic if it was known that our spirit door could be destroyed. Please you must not tell anyone what you saw." He seems greatly concerned and mostly passes over the book, saying they have no need for books here, suggesting the Citadel as a place where someone might know more. Which formula did you decide to learn first? You can write it in your character sheet as a formula known.

Jasper

Your thoughts seem to keep coming back to the wood cabin of your dreams and the aged body of the hermit and his message, beckoning you to make haste. The apostles were the messengers in the bible, oracles of the gospel. Perhaps there is a message that someone wants you to hear, or perhaps carry.


Male Human Male Expert 7 | HP 70/70 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 18 CMB 7 | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +5 | Initiative +5 | Perception +10

Thinking Heightened Awareness. Don't want to start with something that seems much more than an alchemical or even capable from a drug.


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9
Diamondust wrote:


Cooil This would be after he comes back from meeting with Janice Qualin is surprised that you were given such an intimate encounter with the spirits. "Only the Gardeners commune with the spirits. This is a strange thing indeed. Do you talk to the spirits of your world?" He seems confused at the fox's words, "You must have misheard it, or it is testing you. The spirits would never speak against the Angel. Perhaps it meant that those who fight the Angel will suffer, such as the Forsaken in their darkness, for they go against what is best. Perhaps you should speak to a Gardener. The one who alerted us to your presence might still be here, but they are nomadic, calling the entire area of our people which they maintain, their home, rarely visiting our villages."

"So I spoke to a spirit in the form of a fox? Or was the fox one of the Gardeners? I have studied with people at my world who communicate with spirits, but I have never been successful at it. Some speak of a boundary between the world of the spirits and the world of flesh as the veil. Perhaps the veil is thinner here."

Diamondust wrote:
With the prism of glass you split the light and view the results which look just the same as when you have done this demonstration on earth. At least light is still the same everywhere in the universe. Your eyes cannot detect infrared or ultraviolet so I'm not sure what you meant by that.

I was thinking Cooil's camera might be equipped to detect infrared or UV. It might reveal things an archaeologist might be able to use. For example, ground that has water just below it might be cooler and hence give off less IR light.

While Cooil expected the prism to refract light into colors, there are differences between the spectrum produced by the sun and other artificial sources of light. I was thinking he might be able to tell something about the source of the light by the spectrum characteristics. For example, if you look at fluorescent lighting, you see gaps in the spectrum. Incandescent light is stronger in the red side than the violet.


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9

Cooil is inclined to return and see if he can talk to the fox/spirit. He will pass on the reservations some have about allowing people through the door. He would like to learn more about speaking with spirits, particularly after seeing Janice learn new spells and Gordon learn an alchemical formula.

Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7
Cooil MacCray, PhD, DDiv wrote:


While Cooil expected the prism to refract light into colors, there are differences between the spectrum produced by the sun and other artificial sources of light. I was thinking he might be able to tell something about the source of the light by the spectrum...

The exact scientific instrument for measuring this would be a spectrometer.


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9

... which Cooil probably wouldn't have, although the functional part of a spectrometer is a diffraction grating, which is small (they are embedded in glass and can be just a few centimeters square) so it could be something he might have. If he can't get any clues based on his roll, that's okay. It's just something a physicist would think to do.


If that's a common instrument, and small enough, then you could have it. The light here is the same as earth sunlight though.

Cooil

Qualin is unsure how you do not understand. "The Spirits are not Gardeners. They are Spirits. The Gardeners are like us. They are physical. You met one on the night you arrived."

Jasper:

That night you again have the same dream. A lightly furnished wood cabin with a rickety old chair with a blanket covered hermit staring into the fire. Follow the Citadel's light. When you lose the light you will soon find this place.

The next day comes...

What activities are you each doing together or separately?


Female Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | Fort +3 Ref +3 Will +6 | Initiative +1 | Perception +11

Janice is going to ask Qualin about the dream. Then she is going to work on her magic, trying to immerse herself in that awareness again to see if she can learn more.

What day were the leaders supposed to get here? That's mainly what we were still waiting here for, right?


The dream that Jasper told you about?

Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7

Desmond is mainly just waiting. Again he will walk about the village and speak with people, see if he can help with any chores or preparations, he will also ask for help learning the evening meal prayer song and any other songs they might know.


Female Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | Fort +3 Ref +3 Will +6 | Initiative +1 | Perception +11

Oh, whoops. Not sure how I thought that was for everyone, since it is clearly labeled Jasper.
I don't even remember it being in a spoiler... I must have been brain-dead. I apologize. Ignore the dream part.


Male Human Expert 7

Jasper wakes with a start the next morning, bolting awake and looking around frantically before calming down and going over his dream. With the details set in his mind, he seeks out Father McKinley and Dr. MacCray, hoping to talk to them about what he's experienced.


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9
Diamondust wrote:

Cooil

Qualin is unsure how you do not understand. "The Spirits are not Gardeners. They are Spirits. The Gardeners are like us. They are physical. You met one on the night you arrived."

"Forgive my ignorance and confusion. But I talked to a fox, although we did not actually make sounds. I heard its voice in my head and sent my thoughts in a similar manner. Is that how spirits communicate? Can any of you take the form of an animal and communicate mind to mind? If these are questions only a Gardener can answer, could you introduce me to one if when he or she is in the area?"

Cooil will wait as long as he can, hoping for a chance to talk with a Gardener, should one be present. But as it gets close to 24 hours since he talked to the fox/spirit, he will set off to meet the fox again, unless anyone in the group wants to try to talk him out of it.

Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7
Jasper Rolla wrote:
Jasper wakes with a start the next morning, bolting awake and looking around frantically before calming down and going over his dream. With the details set in his mind, he seeks out Father McKinley and Dr. MacCray, hoping to talk to them about what he's experienced.

"All signs seem to be pointing us to the Citadel. I'm waiting to meet with the other elders, but I have the feeling that we'll have to journey to this Citadel to find the answers we're looking for, regardless. At least the old man in your dreams sounds less um... pressing. How do you feel about it? About what he's offering... the power to smite your enemies, is that right?"


Male Human Expert 7

As expected, Father McKinley offered Jasper sound council: even if if it was stating the obvious, it was reassuring to have it confirmed by someone else.

Father McKinley's question left Jasper quiet, and he placed his hand on his chin as he contemplated. Jasper had never killed anyone, though he'd put no small number of men in the hospital with his beatings. He supposed he could do it, if lives were on the line, but this power he was being offered...

I'm not sure. he finally answered. I've been in fights before, but that hardly makes me soldier material. I suppose I've been avoiding thinking about it. It's a rather extreme thing to think about, if I'm honest.

What about you? he asked. If some strange being offered you power, would you take it?

Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7

Desmond laughs heartily, "Well I guess that all depends on what's being offered and who's doing the offering. I'm not sure if I'm cut out for smiting, either. Boy, it sure sounds biblical, doesn't it."

He falls silent for a moment, pondering.

"It seems Janice has developed some powers, but hers weren't offered to her. Cooil has been offered something too, and my bet is he will take it. Gordon seems to think he's stumbled onto some power with that book he found. I'm not sure where that leaves me, but all this talk about prophecy leaves me wondering if we were actually brought here for a purpose."


Male Human Male Expert 7 | HP 70/70 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 18 CMB 7 | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +5 | Initiative +5 | Perception +10

I gotta argue that we chose this place and were not brought here. We had choices. We almost chose another door. Gordon reminds the good father. In addition to the book I find that when I concentrate on a problem sometimes get a feeling of inspiration or deep concentration and can figure out things that were beyond me before. He adds to the general discussion.

Later he will interject We have answered some mysteries of this place only to uncover more questions. I think I will soon be ready to go to the city we keep hearing about.


male Human Expert 7 Roll20 | perception +9

"Jasper's question about offers of power reminds me of a story of a Taoist monk who wandered from place to place, helping people as he looked for long lost relatives. He helped a woman secure a large sum of money and when the monk refused her offer to stay and be with her, she asked him what he'd do if he came into a fortune. He replied, I'd continue to look for myself. She said, I didn't know you had to look for that! He replied, It is the only thing.

"Father, I'm not sure if you're one for proselytizing but you might try sharing your own religion and see if they could use some good news.
Perhaps there is a similar religion to Christianity here. It might be good to know what the locals believe about God or the gods, in any case."

To Gordon's comment on mysteries, Cooil adds, "I believe it was JBS Haldane who said, 'The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can image.'"

Dark Archive

Male Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | F +3 R +3 W +8 | Init +1 | Perc +7
Gordon Alexander wrote:
I gotta argue that we chose this place and were not brought here. We had choices. We almost chose another door.

"Hmm. Right. And we could have gone through any door, really, we just happened to choose a direction to explore, and the urgency of our situation had us choosing the door which seemed the most promising. Should we mistake coincidence for fate?"

Cooil MacCray, PhD, DDiv wrote:

"Jasper's question about offers of power reminds me of a story of a Taoist monk who wandered from place to place, helping people as he looked for long lost relatives. He helped a woman secure a large sum of money and when the monk refused her offer to stay and be with her, she asked him what he'd do if he came into a fortune. He replied, I'd continue to look for myself. She said, I didn't know you had to look for that! He replied, It is the only thing.

"I like that. We all do with what we are given. Any sort of power or ability is only a tool, a means and not an ends itself."

Cooil MacCray, PhD, DDiv wrote:

"Father, I'm not sure if you're one for proselytizing but you might try sharing your own religion and see if they could use some good news.

Perhaps there is a similar religion to Christianity here. It might be good to know what the locals believe about God or the gods, in any case."

"I've tried to be sensitive to these people and their beliefs. Their beliefs though, happen to be rooted in more substantial evidence than what I can offer. Besides, I think I may have perturbed our poor guide Qualin with all my questioning yesterday. I don't mind spreading the good word, of course, but it should be handled with tact. We are as new and alien to them as they are to us. I certainly don't wish to disrupt and disturb this peaceful place. I can preach the gospel by living it, instead. However, the Angel they worship is indeed the mystery I find most intriguing."


Male Human Male Expert 7 | HP 70/70 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 18 CMB 7 | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +5 | Initiative +5 | Perception +10

Gordon looks appraisingly at Father McKinley. Welll said father. Well said.


Janice

You spend most of your day practising what Qualin showed you last night and you are able to shape the magical energy to a different purpose. You can choose your 3rd cantrip.

Desmond

They don't mind you helping them. After a while you seem to have a group of children following you. They want you to play their game with them. The adults try to shoo them away to play elsewhere. Either the children or the adults can teach you the prayer and some songs.

Cooil

You are unable to find trace of a Gardener. All those who you ask say they haven't seen him since yesterday morning so you decide to go and see the fox. The walk seems longer than you remember but perhaps it is just the journey alone and making sure you are going the right way. You of course are and finally come to the large tree again. I knew you would return. The fox is not the only one here. It sits on the lap of one of the tree people and leaps up into a branch as he rises to greet you. You recognise him as the one who sounded the alarm on your arrival. "Hello. I am Gardener Thevil. They said one of you were sensitive. It is very exciting that you will share your knowledge with us and help us journey beyond the spirit door." The fox looks at him and he is silent for an uncomfortable amount of time as they stare at each other.

He is exited and rightly so. But first you must be sure of your decision to learn our magic. Not all Gardeners survive the spirit dream. You may turn back if you wish, but know that you shall never receive our aid again. If you wish to stay, lie down under the tree.

Gordon

If you spend most of your day studying the book you found you can decipher the formula and effect of another page of this magic alchemy. Choose a second formula known.


Female Human Expert 7 | HP 63/63 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 17 CMB 6 | Fort +3 Ref +3 Will +6 | Initiative +1 | Perception +11

Janice learns how to form a small ball of acid and throw it. She relaxes a little, feeling for the first time since leaving earth that she is somewhat less vulnerable. She is hungry to learn more, and continues to practice.


Male Human Male Expert 7 | HP 70/70 | AC 11 T 11 FF 10 | CMD 18 CMB 7 | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +5 | Initiative +5 | Perception +10

Fascinating. Gordon studies his newly found book in his free time and announces This show proof of an alchemically based shield that would protect the user from harm.

Learned Shield. Can learn a total of 4 more extracts for first level.


Male Human Expert 7

Left alone by the group, Jasper continues to think about his strange experiences while in this strange new world. Hearing voices, having strange dreams, and of course, an odd lack of fear that he'd felt..

I've spoken a little with Father McKinley on this, he pondered to himself. But he knows just as little as everyone else here. If only there was someone else here who knew more about this...

Deciding to seek council, he looks for Qualin, hoping that he'll know of someone who can perhaps explain these strange sensations better than his comrades.

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