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Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Male Italian (Toreador)
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:

Psh, to be honestly I'm pro everything but Ventrue or Toreador. They are the clan type that I'm not fond of. (Says the person playing a Malkavian who would honestly fit in in the middle of the two clans)

I'd love to see a Muscle head Ventrue who uses only intimidate.

'or Toreador'?

*GASP*

Oh, my poor character's delicate artistic heart.

(Okay, I haven't always been the biggest fan of Toreador myself, but I've enjoyed Ranerius more than I thought I would)


Male Ventrue 8 Generation 8/15 BP
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
BY all means do so, f!$% those lousy Ventrue!
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Psh, to be honestly I'm pro everything but Ventrue or Toreador

I object! Very much so. Go Team Ventrue!

Hey, Ranerius, what are you doing later? We have much to talk about...


Male Italian (Toreador)

I always thought the Ventrue got too much flack. Are they large and in charge? Yeah, fiercely so. But they're also always there to throw money, resources, influence, and loads of memory wiping dominate at any breach of the masquerade which however much is tied to enlightened Self interest, means they are saving the other vampires collective asses.

they don't just sit on their dead rears and watch the money roll in. :)

And the right of Succor is a neat concept.

But instead folks assume they're all boring dudes in suits and some how more 'evil' that soul sucking autocratic Tremere, gang violence prone Brujah, Jealous "Your art is better than mine so I will end you" toreador, sociopath Malks and so on ;)

I think success breeds resentment, and the Lasombra are just mad because the Ventrue know they look good in this suit, Lasombra can never be sure their ghouls aren't just too scared to admit they've look fat in that ;)


Male Ventrue 8 Generation 8/15 BP

@Storyteller: Btw, just out of curiosity- should it be Lanzo von Sachsen(instead of Saschen?)? As in, Lanzo of Saxony? I wondered where he was from - and the letter mix-up seemed a likely possibility - if it's not a mix-up, do I know where he is from?


Generation 8th Clan Assamite (Warrior caste) Blood 9/15; Will 6/7

Did I miss seeing Durdona's update post?

She's still trying to drag an unconscious man out of a burning building while avoiding the a creature she considers the devil himself.


Shadow's Status
Durdona Checheg v20 wrote:

Did I miss seeing Durdona's update post?

She's still trying to drag an unconscious man out of a burning building while avoiding the a creature she considers the devil himself.

Yes, it's on the prior page, got that up a day or so ago :-)


Shadow's Status
Franz Albert Capsali wrote:
@Storyteller: Btw, just out of curiosity- should it be Lanzo von Sachsen(instead of Saschen?)? As in, Lanzo of Saxony? I wondered where he was from - and the letter mix-up seemed a likely possibility - if it's not a mix-up, do I know where he is from?

I may have butchered the spelling but he's from the Fiefs of the Black Cross, an NPC representative from the Module "Bitter Crusade", reprising his role as Hardestadt's representative to Venice once more!


Shadow's Status
Ranerius Bernerius wrote:

I always thought the Ventrue got too much flack. Are they large and in charge? Yeah, fiercely so. But they're also always there to throw money, resources, influence, and loads of memory wiping dominate at any breach of the masquerade which however much is tied to enlightened Self interest, means they are saving the other vampires collective asses.

they don't just sit on their dead rears and watch the money roll in. :)

And the right of Succor is a neat concept.

But instead folks assume they're all boring dudes in suits and some how more 'evil' that soul sucking autocratic Tremere, gang violence prone Brujah, Jealous "Your art is better than mine so I will end you" toreador, sociopath Malks and so on ;)

I think success breeds resentment, and the Lasombra are just mad because the Ventrue know they look good in this suit, Lasombra can never be sure their ghouls aren't just too scared to admit they've look fat in that ;)

OR Ventrue are just dicks ;-)


Male Italian (Toreador)
Storyteller Shadow wrote:


OR Ventrue are just dicks ;-)

What, they can't be both? :)


Posting this to all my game:

My Internet Account / computer has been hacked (randsomeware) about two weeks ago. i had to change phone number / IP /reinstall computed etc..

Just got back online. give me two /3 days to get everyone up and running and backlog of game thread


Shadow's Status
Finn Garrety wrote:

Posting this to all my game:

My Internet Account / computer has been hacked (randsomeware) about two weeks ago. i had to change phone number / IP /reinstall computed etc..

Just got back online. give me two /3 days to get everyone up and running and backlog of game thread

Whew, great. Thought I'd lost you there!


Shadow's Status

Alright, everyone but Durdona (who should be posting tonight or tomorrow) now has a post Court post!


Generation 8th Clan Assamite (Warrior caste) Blood 9/15; Will 6/7

Post is up. Sorry for the delay.


Male Italian (Toreador)

Soon, this group will shape history into a new and better Camarilla than destiny had intended. One based on cooperation and trust rather than intrigue and selfishness. Where each cainite can pursue his or her own delights, turning the diversity of the clans into a strength making for a greater harmony that will usher in a new golden age for vampires everwhere. Elders and newly embraced, Assamite to Ventrue, all will have a place in this new world, a world not of hateful Darkness, but of gentle candle-light.

*Watches results so far*

Damn it guys!

;)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 26/30

Psh....intigur and selfishness is still on the dinner plate in my book...as well as stealing of secrets and techniques!!


Shadow's Status

Just an FYI, I am moving towards wrapping up this night and would like to do so by the weekend if possible.


Shadow's Status

Alright, wanted to get to this but even with Insomnia I'm too damn tired to do it. Tomorrow it is.


Shadow's Status

There is still a scene left for the following players:

1. Xing & Finn (for now I'll bot Finn),
2. Veronica (I think you also need to update your profile for the change over to Vampire),
3. Lorenzo,
4. Onfroi,
5. Vitaliano, and
6. Franz (the Embrace).

Geoffroi also has a scene but as he is not dictated to by the Sun that can cross over to the next day/night in game.

Now that I am finally feeling better, I would like to wrap this night up by the end of next week to get to the next night of events and the selection of the Toreador Councilor (and whatever other Madness I have planned).


Shadow's Status

Leaving work now, if I have the energy when I get home, I'll post. 12 hour day today so I'm a bit tired.


Shadow's Status

I've got 4 more updates to get to but I am tired so need to get to bed.

I will finish posts tomorrow night.

Xing, after your next response, we'll cut your scene. I am botting Finn for now.

Michele,
Luca,
Ranerius,
Edwarde,
Lorenzo,
Onfroi,
Franz.

Your nights are all completed.

Durdona, after I reply to you, your night will be over as well.

Veronica & Vitaliano by Friday you will also both be done.

I plan on moving us onto the next night Friday night.

Geoffroi is stuck in RL quagmire but as he is Mortal his scenes will not slow down game ATM.


Shadow's Status

I believe I just need one more response from Veronica and if Vitaliano you want to do a post of your thoughts feel free.

Other than that, night over!

New night will be forthcoming on Friday.

I'll award everyone 2 more XP for the close out of the night.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 26/30

What would it cost to raise Manipulation for 3 to 4?


Shadow's Status
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
What would it cost to raise Manipulation for 3 to 4?

12 XP.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 26/30

Welp, I think I'm losing 12 xp then

I think I'm also gonna take a rank in Empathy if you don't mind. I've been using the two a lot. (I will probably raise Charisma next as I'm a talker type...which will be 9 xp then?)

What's it for Empathy 1?


Shadow's Status
Vitaliano da Riva wrote:

Welp, I think I'm losing 12 xp then

I think I'm also gonna take a rank in Empathy if you don't mind. I've been using the two a lot. (I will probably raise Charisma next as I'm a talker type...which will be 9 xp then?)

What's it for Empathy 1?

1st dot of any Ability is 3 XP.

Charisma 3 will be 8 XP. :-)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 26/30

Very well, changes made...XP updated. I've hit 4 in Manipulation...which means I should specialize in it?

That one is gonna take a minute, as I'm not sure what to think on it.

Maybe Persuasive?


Shadow's Status

Tried to hit this tonight, hitting the wall instead, I think I can get to it in the afternoon tomorrow.


Shadow's Status

Too bad we no longer have Kender Kin playing Andrew, that would have been a great PC to PC scene Lorenzo. :-)


Male Italian (Toreador)

Sorry, transmission in the car decided it didn't want to live earlier this week and we've been dealing with that.

Posted. Given that roll I'm almost wishing I didn't.


Shadow's Status

Kept meaning to hit this thread this week but just did not get a chance. Updates now.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 26/30

Apologies, I plan to get a response out soon. I have been being juggled a bit on new meds and they made me quite I'll which didn't help with my muse. This character especially suffered. Should have a response by the start of the week.


Shadow's Status

NO worries Vitaliano, RL Health trumps posting!


Shadow's Status

We're entering some rarified air folks, less than 30 games here have ever hit 10,000 in posts and we should be there by the end of the month :-)

In celebration of such a milestone, each PC is awarded 10 XP!


6th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 29/30 | Willpower: 7/7

Holy crap! That's a lot of XP. (Side Note: that is in no way a complaint...)


Shadow's Status
Lorenzo Cappelli wrote:
Holy crap! That's a lot of XP. (Side Note: that is in no way a complaint...)

Well, I'm stingy with XP and I figured this is a hell of a milestone and worth celebrating.

Of course, you've all only been Licks for several weeks so too much power too fast makes no sense either...


Shadow's Status

Tomorrow I'll get to the updates for Vitaliano and Geoffroi as well as the responses to Lorenzo and Veronica's most recent posts! Fading a bit here.


Male Ventrue 8 Generation 8/15 BP

Wow, good thing I made it in before ... *smug grin* Good job! Lets keep going strong! Aim for that 20 XP mark @ 20k!

^_^


DO NOT STICK FINGERS IN CAGE
Storyteller Shadow wrote:

We're entering some rarified air folks, less than 30 games here have ever hit 10,000 in posts and we should be there by the end of the month :-)

In celebration of such a milestone, each PC is awarded 10 XP!

Welcome to the club!

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