Dark Ages Vampire - Bloodlines

Game Master Dennis Harry

Bloodlines is a continuation of the now defunct table top Dark Ages Vampire game wherein the PC's have created lineal descendants throughout the ages.

Attendees seeking a seat or have a seat in the Inner Circle:

Assamite - Lord Bajazet al Nasir.

Brujah – Lady Meridie de Chancie, Lord Criatas, “Dark”Selena, Robin Leeland.

Cappadocian – Lord Benne.

Gangrel – Milov Petrankov.

Lasombra - Prince Narses the Archbishop of Nod

Malkavian – Antione le Fanu, Lutz von Hohenzollern.

Nosferatu – Cristo Petradon, Simon.

Salubri – Brian Stack.

Setites – Sadir.

Toreador – Rafael de Corazon, Francois Villon, Helene la Jouste.

Tremere - Radek, Mistress Fanchon.

Tzimisce – Myca Vykos.

Ventrue – Alyssa Gilbert, Lady Jadviga Almanov, Lanzo von Saschen, Prince Alexander.

Remember - only those listed get votes. Of course influencing their Childer can go a long way to getting a vote.

Social Combat:

Let me first thank Sir Dunstan and his excellent Game of Thrones campaign as the inspiration for this rules tweak. A shout out to Vitaliano who also does an excellent job as a player in that campaign.

Game of Thrones has a Social Combat system that, while not translatable directly, I used as inspiration for this campaign.

This is a proposed rules set and I am more than happy to hear feedback from Players before I implement it in full.

Roleplaying is still required to get your point across. However, I think a mechanical system could be beneficial for this scenario, a scenario quite unlike anything I have ever done in a Vampire game before.

Making My Case

To convince a “voter” to side with your Sire, you may roll the following set of Attributes and Abilities:

1. Against someone who is clearly NOT in your favor --- Manipulation+Subterfuge+Politics
2. Against someone who is NEUTRAL – Charisma+Expression+Politics

The difficulty of all rolls is that Cainites Willpower. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to win the contest. Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to make your case and can only attempt do so one time per night.

If you have Presence – Awe or Enrancement, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

Beware, failing in using Presence in Elysium can lead to Sanctions by Thomas Brexiano.

Also beware, Cainites may try to turn this system around on you…

But What if Someone Else Tries This on a Voter I just Brought to my Side?

Amount of successes is a key factor here, you will want to score as many success as you can to ensure that a rival does not try to take that vote from you!

Certain NPC’s already believe that others are in their favor and would never change their votes. Those will be the toughest cookies to break.

Note this system cannot be used on:

Your In-Clan rivals, no amount of sweet talking or bribes will change their minds they all want this position badly.

Prince Narses, he simply will not entertain such discourse. Of course, this does not mean you cannot try to get into the ears of one of his Childer to have them speak with him…

Discerning My Quarry’s Intent

How can I tell if someone is for or against me despite what they are saying?

Make a Perception+Empathy+Politics roll.

The difficulty is 10, less that Cainites Humanity score. Those closer to the Beast are much harder to read. For every Century over 300 years that Cainite has lived, the DC will be increased by 1, topping out at 10, as these Cainites have well and truly mastered this game to have existed for so long in the first place.

Once you engage the voter, you will only have three rounds to ferret out their intent and can only attempt do so one time per night. You will need to score as many successes as they have Willpower to ascertain their intent.

If you have Auspex – Read the Soul or Invade the Mind, you may attempt to use these powers in conjunction with the above roll. Each success utilizing that Discipline gives you one more success on your total roll.

How else can I make my case?

The use of Presence, while frowned upon, is much less cause for censure than using Dominate. Dominate does not work on a Cainite whose blood is closer to Caine than your own. If you seek to use Dominate to convince a voter (or perhaps one of the Childer?) to vote for your Sire, it would be best used elsewhere in the city.

Boons – the boon system of quid pro quo can also be used to gain votes. You will need to offer something of course that that voter does not have or cannot get from another candidate.

Eliminate my rivals. This one is obvious though failure to do so without detection may subject YOU to the Final Death!


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Ghost is there under Vampires :-)

Silver Crusade

Male Clan Gangrel, Childe of Milov Petrankov - 5'10 Eastern European Male in his early 30's - Willpower: 3/7, Bloodpool: 8/20, 4 per turn, Survivor
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Note that significant amounts of rules have been posted in the Campaign Info tab, if you have a question, look there first as the answer may lay within. There are also House Rules listed.

What exactly is a "Dice Pool"?

Kidding.

I just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work you have put in.

Silver Crusade

Male Clan Gangrel, Childe of Milov Petrankov - 5'10 Eastern European Male in his early 30's - Willpower: 3/7, Bloodpool: 8/20, 4 per turn, Survivor

I did have a few questions.

Under Healing/Damage:
Bashing
Bashing damage comes from punches, sticks, and other sources of blunt trauma that are unlikely to instantly kill a victim. All characters use their full Stamina ratings to soak bashing damage.
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Vampires shrug off bashing damage as trivial; halve all bashing damage a vampire takes after soaking, and round down. Mark bashing damage down the health track with a slash “/”.
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Mortals with a health track full of bashing damage fall unconscious.
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Cainites continue moving as if they were Crippled (-5).
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Further bashing damage past the health track turns into lethal damage.

Lethal Damage
Lethal damage comes from bladed weapons and other sources of injury that cause immediate, threatening wounds to mortal flesh. With Storyteller discretion, blunt attacks aimed at a mortal’s vitals difficulty 8 or 9 to target) cause lethal damage. Cainites soak lethal damage with their full Stamina. Mortals may not soak lethal damage without armor. Mark lethal damage with an “X” on the health track. Mortals die.
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House Rule: Lethal Damage dealt to a Vampire past the Incapacitated track DOES NOT result in further Aggravated Damage. However, any further damage dealt will reduce a Vampires Blood Pool on a one for one basis potentially sending that Cainite into Torpor.

I might have missed something, but that very last part of the House rule for Lethal Damage implies that such a character would not already be in Torpor after losing more health below Incapacitated. Was it supposed to be read like they are in Torpor, but also loose blood for each additional health level, or that it takes that much to send them into Torpor?

Also, I just wanted to make sure I'm understanding Bashing Damage here (for Cainites). Bashing Damage will never send you into Torpor or past the Crippled Health Level. But, every further Health level upgrades to Lethal damage.

And also under Willpower

Willpower is one of the most important Traits in Vampire.
Because there are so many ways to spend and regain Willpower, it fluctuates more than any other Trait (besides blood pool).
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A Willpower point may be spent to gain an automatic
success on a single action.

I may be mixing something up, but I believe prior you had said that the automatic success from a Willpower expenditure was not cancelled out by a 1. (If I'm wrong, please ignore). Is that still the case?


He questions the rules, BURRRN'IM!

Just kidding.

Silver Crusade

Male Clan Gangrel, Childe of Milov Petrankov - 5'10 Eastern European Male in his early 30's - Willpower: 3/7, Bloodpool: 8/20, 4 per turn, Survivor

Not going to lie, I just realized they changed DAV20 even more than I'd noticed with the upgrading damage, and I'm slowly teetering from the "I like it overall, but not a fan of a lot of things" to "I'm not a fan". Note, this is in regards to the DAV20 book itself, not the house rules.

I wonder if they forgot that that was a Requiem Rule and not a VtM/DA rule?


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"Cantor" wrote:
Storyteller Shadow wrote:
Note that significant amounts of rules have been posted in the Campaign Info tab, if you have a question, look there first as the answer may lay within. There are also House Rules listed.

What exactly is a "Dice Pool"?

Kidding.

I just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work you have put in.

Yeah, there was a ludicrous amount of time put into that. Luckily I was sick and could not get out of bed for the most part while I was doing that so it was a constructive use of the time!


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"Cantor" wrote:

[1I might have missed something, but that very last part of the House rule for Lethal Damage implies that such a character would not already be in Torpor after losing more health below Incapacitated. Was it supposed to be read like they are in Torpor, but also loose blood for each additional health level, or that it takes that much to send them into Torpor?

2Also, I just wanted to make sure I'm understanding Bashing Damage here (for Cainites). Bashing Damage will never send you into Torpor or past the Crippled Health Level. But, every further Health level upgrades to Lethal damage.

3I may be mixing something up, but I believe prior you had said that the automatic success from a Willpower expenditure was not cancelled out by a 1. (If I'm wrong, please ignore). Is that still the case?

1 The way I have always played it, and I think it makes sense, is that until a Cainite has NO blood in their body AND is PAST incapacitated, they will not enter Torpor.

2 Correct. A Cainite's body is so hardy that Bashing damage essentially has to be dealt to them twice for it to be considered Lethal. That does NOT mean that you will not have negative dice pools on your condition track, just that it takes more than a fist to bring a Vampire close to a Torpid state.

3 No, if you spend Willpower and Botch, the Botch will negate the success. But that extra success is always helpful in hopefully preventing a botch! Even zero successes are preferable to a Botch, especially on a critical dice roll.


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"Cantor" wrote:

Not going to lie, I just realized they changed DAV20 even more than I'd noticed with the upgrading damage, and I'm slowly teetering from the "I like it overall, but not a fan of a lot of things" to "I'm not a fan". Note, this is in regards to the DAV20 book itself, not the house rules.

I wonder if they forgot that that was a Requiem Rule and not a VtM/DA rule?

Agreed, that is why I Houseruled it.


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I will be updating the thread tomorrow night.

Cristiano, try to have posts up replying to all Downtime items as well as an In Game response.

Curt, I sent you a text, need to update your character before we can move on, that includes an update to your Profile.

Bagrat, we will move you closer but not quite arrive at the Conclave, after all, your presence will be quite interesting!


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Will update tonight, was not feeling too great last night.


Traveling over running water...


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Stake in the heart. :-)

Silver Crusade

Male Clan Gangrel, Childe of Milov Petrankov - 5'10 Eastern European Male in his early 30's - Willpower: 3/7, Bloodpool: 8/20, 4 per turn, Survivor

Hey everyone. I am in the military and I just found out today that I will be going out into the field between the 11th and the 22nd of this month. I do not know if I will have any internet connection. If I do, I will make every effort to post, but I just wanted to give as much warning as I could, and I honestly have no idea if I will have any internet on my phone or not. I apologize for the short notice, but I just found out today.


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"Cantor" wrote:
Hey everyone. I am in the military and I just found out today that I will be going out into the field between the 11th and the 22nd of this month. I do not know if I will have any internet connection. If I do, I will make every effort to post, but I just wanted to give as much warning as I could, and I honestly have no idea if I will have any internet on my phone or not. I apologize for the short notice, but I just found out today.

No worries, god luck and hope you come home safe and sound after the 22nd!


Male Italian (Toreador)

Yeah. Safe journey, Cantor


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Taking a short break, I will post for Cristiano and Bagrat in a bit.


Male Weremonkey Rogue/Ranger/Trickster

Tomorrow, I fly out to San Antonio for the next eleven days or so, and then on to Vegas for a week, which will cumulate in attending this year's huge Vampire the Masquerade/White-Wolf national gaming convention.

I should be able to post, as I will have my laptop, and will be staying with friends in SA who should have wi-fi, but just in case I can not, you guys know why.


roger that dm :)


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Sounds good MonkeyGod. While you are there if you can catch up on the open items on Downtime that would be great this way before you enter the Conclave all of your housekeeping will be complete. I also have a spoiled questions for you in the ooc thread.


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My next update will be massive.

Running my table top D&D game tomorrow night so look for my next update on Saturday evening. Sorry for the delay but I this k it will be worth the wait! :-)


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Those of you at the Conclave may:

1. Speak to your Sire if you desire, and/or
2. Announce yourselves BUT not your Sires.

Or you can sit tight and let the Sires introduce you.

Well except Xing, you have to annouce yourself.

Cristiano, Bagrat, and Michael, I will get to the three of you tomorrow. The last several posts were time consuming!


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Sorry gents, passed out watching the Sunday night game.

Will give a full update tomorrow night when I get home from work.


No worries...


No worries Indeed DM


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I will post for Michael and the rest of the characters at the Conclave this evening, what I just posted was a little work break :-)


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I will update the thread tomorrow night to allow everyone a chance to catch up.

Lorenzo, I will try to post your next Downtime update tonight though.


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Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:
Yeti grins, "Secrets of the East. Nigrimancy was not created by the Giovanni much as they would like to believe it was. Ambrogino was able to force from me the key to protecting an area in our world from intrusions by the spirits of the Underworld. I managed to teach him how to create but not remove such a space after he realized that, he sentenced me to 100 years of torpor to convince me to teach him the rest...

Tell me, what do you intend to do with me now that you have rescued me from my captivity?"


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Sorry Gents, I am far too exhausted to complete all of the Table updates. I will do so tomorrow after my (and Michele's) Table Top Modern Vamp game is over :-)


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8

Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:

"How interesting. It seems there is such a protected domain within this city. Ambrogino sought your secrets to enter this protected realm?" Lorenzo asks.

"As to what we intend to do...you have been cooperative and civil. That in itself is greatly appreciated. Assuming my sire is agreeable, I see no reason to not let you go. I am young, and therefore may be mistaken, but I believe agreeing to a boon of sorts is customary for the situation you find yourself in." Lorenzo says, looking back to Lord Benne for his assessment of the situation.


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Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:
Yeti cackles with glee, "No my young friend, Ambrogino created this protected realm FOR Prince Narses. Prior to that, the Giovanni family spied on Narses with impunity to the point where he was taking meeting outside of his own Domain. When the shroud was lowered Augustus certainly could not complain to the Prince it would be akin to revealing that he was spying on the master of the Domain.

Why Narses did not strike at the Giovanni when he learned they were spying on him is another matter entirely".

Lord Benne nods in agreement with you Lorenzo, "Yes a significant boon you owe to us Yeti. You may fulfill it in one of two ways.

Contact your Sire and request his presence here so that we may meet with him though you will be out guest until he arrives or teach us the secret Necromantic powers you know".

Yeti considers his options, "Give me leave to decide, in the meantime I shall stay here and enjoy your hospitality, I assume I should not leave your Haven though yes?"

"Correct, we shall keep you here and feed you necessary. I do not wish to inform Narses of your presence just yet..."


5th Generation Cappadocian | Bloodpool: 26/40 | Willpower: 6/8

Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:

Assuming we leave Yeti be for now...

Leaving Yeti to consider his options, Lorenzo walks along with his sire for a moment. "Lord Benne, please correct me if I am wrong, if we are supporters of Prince Narses and Ambrogino constructed the barrier to keep the remaining Giovanni from spying on the Prince, could we have a possible ally within the Giovanni family?"


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Will work on the rest of the updates tomorrow, long day today...


Posting this to all my games:

I am going away for a tournement this weekend. There will be no posting from me.
DMNPC if needed please.


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Once all Tables have chimed in I will move the story forward a bit as not all of the guests have arrived yet :-)


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Will complete more updates and push things along tomorrow.

Are all my players new and old enjoying themselves? :-)


Absolutely!


Male Italian (Toreador)
Storyteller Shadow wrote:

Will complete more updates and push things along tomorrow.

Are all my players new and old enjoying themselves? :-)

I am enjoying myself. I hope I'm portraying Ranerius in an interesting way in return. I'm not used to playing Toreadors, so knock on wood there :)

I am a bit curious, do we have a link to how downtime works in this game? What it is used for etc? I think I came in late for the details.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

I am enjoying it as well, it's nice to see all the other types and styles of vampires being represented.


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

That...was a really nice dice roll, I hope it comes out to be useful for my sire.


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Let's leave that In Thread cliffhanger there for now eh? :-)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Bwahaha, my words weigh heavy on a more powerful vampire's mind. I may very well have helped my sire win.


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Vitaliano da Riva wrote:
Bwahaha, my words weigh heavy on a more powerful vampire's mind. I may very well have helped my sire win.

An excellent roll to be sure. Or you have convinced him to do something even crazier :-)


Clan Malkavian Blood Pool 19/30

Both can work to my favor. One eliminates him as political rival for the time being the other may very well prove his madness to be too much and may cause his final death.


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Lorenzo Cappelli Downtime:
Lord Benne shakes his head, "From what I know of that one, he is on his own side, Still, his knowledge could be quite valuable if we can harness it. An alliance with this one's Sire could also be fruitful. This is an odd Bloodline I have never heard of before. I shall have to consult with my own Sire regarding the matter. Keep your eye on him until our Guardian arrives, then the task shall fall to her".


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I will give the thread one more night to get some more responses in before I move on.


You shut me up...


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Alexander HAS ripped the arms off of PC's in my game in the past, you are going to meet the recipients of that treatment very shortly... :-)


Robert or... bob for short? Is he in the fountain?


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Alessandro Khadaji wrote:
Robert or... bob for short? Is he in the fountain?

On the ground he is Matt and on the wall he is Art...


Male Italian (Toreador)

Not sure there is anything Ranerius can say at this point , he's mostly getting a feel for things and seeing what he can uncover

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