paizo.com Recent Discussion Posts for DM Raltus Demon Slayingpaizo.com Recent Discussion Posts for DM Raltus Demon Slaying2018-12-23T14:25:06Z2018-12-23T14:25:06ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15822018-12-23T14:24:15Z2018-12-23T14:24:15Z<p>That is fair and I was thinking the same thing.</p>
<p>Mythic is pretty broken, trying to play it on PbP makes it harder as there is lots of different things going on and reactions to things taking time really slow things down.</p>That is fair and I was thinking the same thing.
Mythic is pretty broken, trying to play it on PbP makes it harder as there is lots of different things going on and reactions to things taking time really slow things down.DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-12-23T14:24:15ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingLynn Warhaven (alias of Foxy Quickpaw)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15812018-12-23T14:16:10Z2018-12-23T14:16:10Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">DM Raltus wrote:</div><blockquote> <span class=messageboard-ooc>Bump</span> </blockquote><p>I suggest to close this game. As it looks now, no one brings up the enthusiasm to post on a regular basis here anymore.
<p>For me, part of that is, that I have a hard time to understand what is going on, which makes it hard to come up with a reaction. Combined with misunderstandings about my intentions in game, which leads to the feeling, it doesn't matter what I come up with. In addition we have regular discussions about rules that take up more space than the actual game. </p>
<p>This mythic stuff is fun, as it allows to really build OP characters. But in the way the game is at the moment I'm not really interested to continue with it. Don left us already, Balthazar's player disappeared from all games, Which leaves Tink, Azrael and Lynn. </p>
<p>If you think this could somehow be fixed, I'll be around to hear you out. But I don't have high hopes here.</p>DM Raltus wrote:Bump
I suggest to close this game. As it looks now, no one brings up the enthusiasm to post on a regular basis here anymore. For me, part of that is, that I have a hard time to understand what is going on, which makes it hard to come up with a reaction. Combined with misunderstandings about my intentions in game, which leads to the feeling, it doesn't matter what I come up with. In addition we have regular discussions about rules that take up more space than the actual game.
...Lynn Warhaven (alias of Foxy Quickpaw)2018-12-23T14:16:10ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15802018-11-28T03:16:59Z2018-11-28T03:16:59Z<p>True, Ok you can be a tent away then lets say?</p>True, Ok you can be a tent away then lets say?DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-28T03:16:59ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingAzrael* (alias of Skorn)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15792018-11-28T01:48:20Z2018-11-28T01:48:20Z<p>Since we are still talking about it I will note that since the thing we are protecting is an artifact of his goddess Azrael would never have been 5 tents away. Likely in the same tent unless Lynn kicked him out and then maybe sleeping right outside. I mean its an artifact of the Ppaladin's goddess and were were sorta expecting something like this.</p>Since we are still talking about it I will note that since the thing we are protecting is an artifact of his goddess Azrael would never have been 5 tents away. Likely in the same tent unless Lynn kicked him out and then maybe sleeping right outside. I mean its an artifact of the Ppaladin's goddess and were were sorta expecting something like this.Azrael* (alias of Skorn)2018-11-28T01:48:20ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15782018-11-27T19:00:33Z2018-11-27T19:00:33Z<p>Ya 45 was a bit much it was the first numbers my fingers went too.</p>
<p>I was just saying they are guide lines, off the top of my head I would put the DC at 20 for Azrael because of distance and other factors.</p>
<p>Balthazar would be about 12 or so</p>Ya 45 was a bit much it was the first numbers my fingers went too.
I was just saying they are guide lines, off the top of my head I would put the DC at 20 for Azrael because of distance and other factors.
Balthazar would be about 12 or soDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-27T19:00:33ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingLynn Warhaven (alias of Foxy Quickpaw)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15772018-11-27T18:38:14Z2018-11-27T18:38:14Z<p>I don't say the -10 is set in stone. Number of combatants, weapons and armors used, or whatever other things may have an effect. And fiddling with the numbers for added drama is a basic GM tool. I just got the impression, that you interpret the tables completely different and therefore wanted to point that out.</p>
<p>And I couldn't resist to make fun of the DC of 45. ;)</p>I don't say the -10 is set in stone. Number of combatants, weapons and armors used, or whatever other things may have an effect. And fiddling with the numbers for added drama is a basic GM tool. I just got the impression, that you interpret the tables completely different and therefore wanted to point that out.
And I couldn't resist to make fun of the DC of 45. ;)Lynn Warhaven (alias of Foxy Quickpaw)2018-11-27T18:38:14ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15762018-11-27T18:28:30Z2018-11-27T18:28:30Z<p>Common Uses
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Notice Someone/Something</p>
<p>Perception has a number of uses, the most common of which is an opposed check versus an opponent’s Stealth check to notice the opponent and avoid being surprised. If you are successful, you notice the opponent and can react accordingly. If you fail, your opponent can take a variety of actions, including sneaking past you and attacking you.</p>
<p>Perception is also used to notice fine details in the environment. The DC to notice such details varies depending upon distance, the environment, and how noticeable the detail is. <b>The following table gives a number of guidelines.</b></p>
<p>Emphasis mine, I am not arguing just saying that even Paizo employees have said that the Rule book is to be taken not as absolutes because it will cause some issues. Only on PFS do rules become non negotiable. </p>
<p>Regardless Azrael is awake and we shall press on, who wants to Bot Balthazar in the next tent over</p>Common Uses
Notice Someone/Something
Perception has a number of uses, the most common of which is an opposed check versus an opponent’s Stealth check to notice the opponent and avoid being surprised. If you are successful, you notice the opponent and can react accordingly. If you fail, your opponent can take a variety of actions, including sneaking past you and attacking you.
Perception is also used to notice fine details in the environment. The DC to notice such details varies depending...DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-27T18:28:30ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingLynn Warhaven (alias of Foxy Quickpaw)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15752018-11-27T18:15:35Z2018-11-27T18:15:35Z<p>From the CRB. The two tables.
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First one is Perception DCs for typical things you'd encounter in game. Given in absolute values, noticeable, when looking at the values that are not negative as they got no + sign. Also the column is labeled as <b>Perception DC</b>.</p>
<p>The second table is the modifiers table which modifies the given value from the first table by the +/- value given in the column <b>DC Modifier</b>.</p>
<p>Of course you can set the DC for hearing a battle to 45 as you're the GM, but then we're no longer playing Pathfinder, but <a href="https://calvinandhobbes.fandom.com/wiki/Calvinball" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Calvinball</a>. ;)</p>
<p>This game is fun too, but then I want to come up with rules of my own too.</p>
<p><b>Detail / Perception DC </b>
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Hear the sound of battle –10
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Notice the stench of rotting garbage –10
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Detect the smell of smoke 0
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Hear the details of a conversation 0
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Notice a visible creature 0
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Determine if food is spoiled 5
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Hear the sound of a creature walking 10
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Hear the details of a whispered conversation 15
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Find the average concealed door 15
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Hear the sound of a key being turned in a lock 20
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Find the average secret door 20
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Hear a bow being drawn 25
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Sense a burrowing creature underneath you 25
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Notice a pickpocket Opposed by
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Sleight of Hand
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Notice a creature using Stealth Opposed by Stealth
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Find a hidden trap Varies by trap
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Identify the powers of a potion 15 + the potion’s
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through taste caster level</p>
<p><b>Perception Modifiers / DC Modifier</b>
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Distance to the source, object, +1/10 feet
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or creature
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Through a closed door +5
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Through a wall +10/foot of
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thickness
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Favorable conditions –2
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Unfavorable conditions +2
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Terrible conditions +5
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Creature making the check is distracted +5
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Creature making the check is asleep +10
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Creature or object is invisible +20</p>From the CRB. The two tables.
First one is Perception DCs for typical things you'd encounter in game. Given in absolute values, noticeable, when looking at the values that are not negative as they got no + sign. Also the column is labeled as Perception DC.
The second table is the modifiers table which modifies the given value from the first table by the +/- value given in the column DC Modifier.
Of course you can set the DC for hearing a battle to 45 as you're the GM, but then we're no...Lynn Warhaven (alias of Foxy Quickpaw)2018-11-27T18:15:35ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15742018-11-27T16:50:08Z2018-11-27T16:50:08Z<p>Yep.
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I cast invisibility sphere earlier.
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A greater invis too.
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But not a normal invis.</p>Yep.
I cast invisibility sphere earlier.
A greater invis too.
But not a normal invis.Tink_ (alias of J4RH34D)2018-11-27T16:50:08ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15732018-11-27T16:08:51Z2018-11-27T16:08:51Z<p>I have never seen the +20 to pin point an invisible creature but then again I never play rogues that much or Casters.</p>
<p>Also were these spells you still had left over since you didn't get to rest?</p>I have never seen the +20 to pin point an invisible creature but then again I never play rogues that much or Casters.
Also were these spells you still had left over since you didn't get to rest?DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-27T16:08:51ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15722018-11-27T15:16:36Z2018-11-27T15:07:37Z<p>Sure.
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+3 dex
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+4 size
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+20 invisibility spell
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+20 to pinpoint an invisible creature</p>Sure.
+3 dex
+4 size
+20 invisibility spell
+20 to pinpoint an invisible creatureTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)2018-11-27T15:07:37ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15712018-11-27T14:47:13Z2018-11-27T14:47:13Z<p>@ Tink - Can you tell me your bonuses to stealth? (Stealth: 1d20 + 20 + 3 + 4 + 20 ⇒ (2) + 20 + 3 + 4 + 20 = 49)</p>
<p>@ Azrael, you waking is fine with me, I wish to move this along instead of getting hung up.</p>@ Tink - Can you tell me your bonuses to stealth? (Stealth: 1d20 + 20 + 3 + 4 + 20 ⇒ (2) + 20 + 3 + 4 + 20 = 49)
@ Azrael, you waking is fine with me, I wish to move this along instead of getting hung up.DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-27T14:47:13ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingAzrael* (alias of Skorn)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15702018-11-27T14:40:55Z2018-11-27T14:40:55Z<p>I did not mean to be argumentative, only to understand. Of course you can set the DC to anything you want. But we all mean to be reasonable I hope. I only wanted to know if I was awake. You were telling me to act without my being sure I was awake. I felt it incumbent to not assume I was awake. So based on your statement Azrael is awake. But I would rather make whatever the DC is than for you to be fine with me being awake.</p>I did not mean to be argumentative, only to understand. Of course you can set the DC to anything you want. But we all mean to be reasonable I hope. I only wanted to know if I was awake. You were telling me to act without my being sure I was awake. I felt it incumbent to not assume I was awake. So based on your statement Azrael is awake. But I would rather make whatever the DC is than for you to be fine with me being awake.Azrael* (alias of Skorn)2018-11-27T14:40:55ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15692018-11-27T12:39:22Z2018-11-27T12:39:22Z<p>I can set the DC to 45 if I wanted, if there is a battle going on it drops the DC by 10 to 35. </p>
<p>I have never had someone state the rules in such a way, even in other games on the Boards and in RL. That is fine with me that Azrael wakes he is still a while out.</p>
<p>It does say guidelines. I am fine with Azrael waking up, next time I will just set a DC and that will be it after all the mods that can be added/Subtracted.</p>I can set the DC to 45 if I wanted, if there is a battle going on it drops the DC by 10 to 35.
I have never had someone state the rules in such a way, even in other games on the Boards and in RL. That is fine with me that Azrael wakes he is still a while out.
It does say guidelines. I am fine with Azrael waking up, next time I will just set a DC and that will be it after all the mods that can be added/Subtracted.DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-27T12:39:22ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15682018-11-27T06:43:40Z2018-11-27T06:43:40Z<p>[url=https://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/perception/]Perception[/url</p>
<p>The DC to hear combat is -10. That's not the modifier. That is the actual DC.</p>
<p>There is a table of modifiers on that page.
<br />
The ones in play here:
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Character making the check is asleep +10
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Distance to Source +1/10ft
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Possibly could say unfavourable conditions as there are multiple tents in the way which would muffle noise and other camp noise going on, for +5.</p>
<p>Total DC to hear sound of combat for 50ft away while asleep in unfavourable circumstances:
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-10 (base) +10+1•5+5=10</p>[url=https://www.d20pfsrd.com/skills/perception/]Perception[/url
The DC to hear combat is -10. That's not the modifier. That is the actual DC.
There is a table of modifiers on that page.
The ones in play here:
Character making the check is asleep +10
Distance to Source +1/10ft
Possibly could say unfavourable conditions as there are multiple tents in the way which would muffle noise and other camp noise going on, for +5.
Total DC to hear sound of combat for 50ft away while asleep in[/url]...Tink_ (alias of J4RH34D)2018-11-27T06:43:40ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15672018-11-27T04:50:52Z2018-11-27T04:50:52Z<p>So to address your question, You asked if Azrael would be sleeping I would think so since it is late at night.</p>
<p>So you take a -10 penalty to your perception because you're asleep. To hear a "Battle" you get a +10 cancelling each other out. </p>
<p>Your distance is -5 you rolled a 14, I don't see anything about a Typical DC can you direct me to that?</p>So to address your question, You asked if Azrael would be sleeping I would think so since it is late at night.
So you take a -10 penalty to your perception because you're asleep. To hear a "Battle" you get a +10 cancelling each other out.
Your distance is -5 you rolled a 14, I don't see anything about a Typical DC can you direct me to that?DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-27T04:50:52ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingAzrael* (alias of Skorn)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15662018-11-22T15:38:24Z2018-11-22T15:38:24Z<p>Sorry for slow posting. Started traveling for Thannksgiving early and got busy with family stuff. Happy Thanksgiving all.</p>Sorry for slow posting. Started traveling for Thannksgiving early and got busy with family stuff. Happy Thanksgiving all.Azrael* (alias of Skorn)2018-11-22T15:38:24ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15652018-11-22T14:09:00Z2018-11-22T14:09:00Z<p>Ahh, I gave people lots of chances to say yes or no and no one responded. Azrael said he was talking to his Charge and they share a tent, I wrote that Balthazar was taken to a different tent with his own guards.</p>Ahh, I gave people lots of chances to say yes or no and no one responded. Azrael said he was talking to his Charge and they share a tent, I wrote that Balthazar was taken to a different tent with his own guards.DM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-22T14:09:00ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15642018-11-22T12:42:31Z2018-11-22T12:42:31Z<p>Im not on about the resting. I am on about the party being grouped together.</p>Im not on about the resting. I am on about the party being grouped together.Tink_ (alias of J4RH34D)2018-11-22T12:42:31ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15632018-11-22T12:37:05Z2018-11-22T12:37:05Z<p>Ok, this fight is still at night, you guys kicked the hornets nest and they won't allow you rest until they have back their Banner. SO no new day no new spells</p>Ok, this fight is still at night, you guys kicked the hornets nest and they won't allow you rest until they have back their Banner. SO no new day no new spellsDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-22T12:37:05ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15622018-11-22T06:17:35Z2018-11-22T06:19:11Z<p>As per Lynns post before the new day:</p>
<p>"Minimum precautions are all from the group in one tent with the banner and pallies around the tent for guarding.
<br />
Can we have a new day please?"</p>
<p>Also, SteelGate does not take part in this fight. He takes 10 minutes to set up.</p>As per Lynns post before the new day:
"Minimum precautions are all from the group in one tent with the banner and pallies around the tent for guarding.
Can we have a new day please?"
Also, SteelGate does not take part in this fight. He takes 10 minutes to set up.Tink_ (alias of J4RH34D)2018-11-22T06:19:11ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15612018-11-15T21:19:17Z2018-11-15T21:19:17Z<p>which is fine she can vent her rage, she is a War Priest after all</p>which is fine she can vent her rage, she is a War Priest after allDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-15T21:19:17ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingAzrael* (alias of Skorn)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15602018-11-15T21:01:54Z2018-11-15T20:59:20Z<p>But from a RP point of view it seems like something Lynn would/should do since its bothering her so. And that's mechanics aside.</p>But from a RP point of view it seems like something Lynn would/should do since its bothering her so. And that's mechanics aside.Azrael* (alias of Skorn)2018-11-15T20:59:20ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15592018-11-15T13:53:55Z2018-11-15T13:53:55Z<p>True, it is an investment. I will say that the next book doesn't have a lot of deception in it more of a sandbox really</p>True, it is an investment. I will say that the next book doesn't have a lot of deception in it more of a sandbox reallyDM Raltus (alias of Raltus)2018-11-15T13:53:55ZRe: Forums: Play-by-Post Discussion: GM Raltus Demon SlayingTink_ (alias of J4RH34D)https://paizo.com/campaigns/DMRaltusDemonSlaying/discussion&page=32#15582018-11-15T13:33:12Z2018-11-15T13:33:12Z<p>Maxing sense motive is not quite enough, when you are looking at people with +18 Bluff at level 7...</p>
<p>With max ranks and a wis score of 18 and class skill bonus:
<br />
7+4+3=+14
<br />
Even skill focus only takes that to +17.
<br />
You would need to spend a very significant portion of resources to a very specific task to have any more than a 50% chance of success.</p>Maxing sense motive is not quite enough, when you are looking at people with +18 Bluff at level 7...
With max ranks and a wis score of 18 and class skill bonus:
7+4+3=+14
Even skill focus only takes that to +17.
You would need to spend a very significant portion of resources to a very specific task to have any more than a 50% chance of success.Tink_ (alias of J4RH34D)2018-11-15T13:33:12Z