Janos Ardeal |
"But there is paperwork and a process and it must be approved. It is not possible otherwise."
I hear ya. I had a friend who one time was trying to get a replacement cell phone prorated. The German shop said that without a stamp on his forms, it wouldn't go through. They kept insisting it must be stamped. He went home and stamped it with his kid's Mickey Mouse stamp. He too it back and they looked at it, shrugged, and said "It is a stamp." Cell phone was delivered two days later.
DM Jelani |
Seid ihr alle Deutsche? Sounds like China with the stamps. Everything here (I live in China) has to be stamped by 5 million different people. The only thing red about red China is all the damn stamps and red tape.
Honestly though, in vaunted non-union America where the customer service is supposedly so good I used to work for Verizon's internet branch and we always had people waiting like that. That's just how they do internet installations. Don't get me wrong, it sucks, but it sucks everywhere.
Drosil the Grey |
While I did spend a few years in Germany as a kid, and try to reason through what little I remember of the language when I come up against it, I'm actually American. Still, though - I feel your pain when it comes to customer service...best of luck.
Dantrian Almaeus |
I hab deutsch fur funfzehn Jahren nicht gesprochen.
That may be horribly conjugated and quite wrong, but I took 4 years of German in highschool and haven't really used it since. I visited Switzerland in the Fall of 09, and it certainly helped me get around and purchase groceries and rooms and train tickets, but I don't know that I had to ever make a complete sentence =P
DM Jelani |
Except for saying I instead of ich and leaving the umlaut off für that's right. I used to be fluent, but now I never speak it so I make a lot more mistakes. I've got a German player who's in two of my other games who was practicing with me, but not any more. I guess you're actually not allowed to speak in other languages on Paizo's boards. At least full-time anyway. That's what he told me.
Dantrian Almaeus |
Yeah, other languages tend to be a no-no here. I suspect it's because they can't really moderate it well or easily.
And I meant to type "Ich" instead of "I", and evertime I re-read it, I read it in my head as "Ich". As for the umlaut, I blame my keyboard and my not knowing how to make it make one =)
B'yelka Morfaine |
Just an FYI, I will be going to the field the first half of February. I will try to post, but if I am unable, please don't lety me slow it down!
Also, I should have internet in the house when I get home :)
Janos Ardeal |
How do you want Hit Points, GM?
And Janos has to choose his Combat Style at level 2. Originally I wanted him as a Switch Hitter, and I still wouldn't mind him having some ranged ability, but I'm willing to consider Two-Handed Weapon Style. There just doesn't seem to be much options on that later on.
Tibideau Maroon LeClerc |
Janos, just in case it factors into your decision making, I took Enlarge Person and I plan to use it on you when we fight any big baddies. And whenever we get some cash I'm going to be buying some scrolls of Enlarge Person, too.
Dantrian Almaeus |
Level 2!
+7 hp (d8, +1 Con, +1 favored class)
+1 BAB
+1 Fort Save
+1 Reflex Save
Forumlae
+1 extract per day
add deathwatch to formula book (vivisectionist bonus formula)
add shield to formula book
Discovery
add feral mutagen (gain 2 claw and 1 bite attack whenever mutagen is used)
Skills
8 skill points
+1 Craft (alchemy)
+1 Disable Device
+1 Knowledge (arcana)
+1 Knowledge (dugeoneering)
+1 Knowledge (history)
+1 Knowledge (nature)
+1 Perception
+1 Spellcraft
Dantrian Almaeus |
regarding additional days in the library: I think it'd be a good idea to know as much as we possibly could about these noteworthy prisoners and I think it'd be worth it to invest the extra days in doing the research.
Those not reading up in the church's library could maybe check out the false crypt Kendra's translation uncovered?
Tibideau Maroon LeClerc |
So I've been reading my patron spells over again and while they're good boosts to the party, I'm realizing that a few of the more important bonuses don't stack with B'yelka's bardy stuff. Is it possible to review the witch patrons again and choose something else at this stage?
Drosil the Grey |
Drosil took a rank in Kn:Local as well as Linguistics, so should be able to help by decoding the locked book as well as some knowledge rolls.
DM Jelani |
I'll go ahead and do this as a one time thing. Since we've been playing a little bit now, feel free to change basically ANYTHING about your characters mechanically as you level up. Race, and name need to stay the same, as well as general party role. But if you feel like you made a mistake with a feat, or class feature choice etc, feel free to change it. Please post any changes here. This opportunity will not come again, so think it over carefully.
B'yelka Morfaine |
I will have a shiny new B'yelka posted sometime this weekend. Expect skill ranks in Knowledge local or history, but notthing else. After all, why learn when you can sing like this?
Tibi, B'yelka's Inspire Courage is a Competence bonus. Is that overlapping your buff spells?
New spell for sure will be Cure Light Wounds ;) Eventually Blur to prevent our mediocre ACs from meaning as much :p
Dantrian Almaeus |
@Janos, I think Archery's a really good choice. I found the 2-handed style a bit underwhelming =\
In addition to B'yelka picking up cure light wounds, if we have any gp's to spare I can brew potions of it for the group whenever we need.
It takes 2 hours and 25gp for me to brew one up at Caster Level 1.
Drosil the Grey |
I'll go ahead and take advantage of the recreate, and thanks for the opportunity.
Drosil will change the following at Level 1:
-2 Int (14->12, 3 points)
-1 Cha (13->12, 1 point)
+1 Dex (14->15, 2 points)
+1 Str (13->14, 2 points)
-1 Disguise (to account for Int drop)
Lose Aklo as a language (to account for Int drop)
-1 Diplomacy (Favored Class Bonus)
+1 HP (Favored Class Bonus)
Drop Weapon Finesse
Take Two-Weapon Fighting
Alter Linguistics extra language: Goblin -> Varisian
Exchange Rapier (20gp) for 2 Shortswords (20gp)
Drosil will change in the following ways for Level 2:
Class Feature: Evasion
Rogue Talent: Finesse Rogue
+7 HP (d8+1, +1 Con, +1 FCB)
+1 BAB
+1 Reflex Save
Skills (9)
+1 Acrobatics
+1 Bluff
+1 Disable Device
+1 Escape Artist
+1 Knowledge (Local)
+1 Perception
+1 Sense Motive
+1 Sleight of Hand
+1 Stealth
I think that's got it...if anyone has any suggestions of different skill distributions or anything, feel free to suggest something.
Tibideau Maroon LeClerc |
@B'yelka - the competence bonus doesn't overlap, but most of the Ancestor patron spells are morale bonuses that do overlap with some of your stuff. My main issue is with my level 8 spell (I know, a long way off for now) which is Fervor. Fervor doesn't stack with Haste, making it virtually useless since I assume you'll take haste at level 5?
@Dantrian - I also took Infernal Healing, so we're covered more in the healing department.
@Drosil - I took Linguistics, too, so we'll be a super code-busting machine!
I'm going to take the time to look over the patrons later today and tomorrow and choose a new one. Besides the patron issue, Level 2 Tibideau is ready to go!
Dantrian Almaeus |
I hadn't looked at Tibideau's patron before, but I can honestly say I'd assumed it was Enchantment. Spells like unnatural lust, unadulterated loathing, and overwhelming grief seem to fit really well with his melodramatic personality. =P
If that doesn't interest you, Occult and Spirits might be two other patrons that'd probably fit really well within the overall setting. Especially Spirits since it gets you ghostbane dirge and speak with dead.
Tibideau Maroon LeClerc |
I was thinking Strength might be good, it has some nice buffs with only one relatively minor overlap with B'yelka's stuff. I'll take another look at Occult and Spirits. If anyone else has some good suggestions let me know!
Enchantment is definitely Tibideau's style! But he's more complicated than he seems :)
Anton Klasnic |
GM how far can I go with the recreate? I'm thinking of keeping exactly the same role but think I would prefer Paladin to inquisitor in the long run, I think it would generally better suit my play style of diplomacy over intimidate (I'm a lover not a fighter!)
Plus I'm already playing him like a pally I think, outraged at the attack at the gravesite etc
DM Jelani |
To quote myself " Race, and name need to stay the same, as well as general party role."
You can change anything else. Go for the paladin, honestly I think this party could use another full BAB class over an Inquisitor anyway. You'll still have an Alchemist and Bard. Paladin can pull off switch hitter better as well.
Nothing beats a 16+ Str 16 Dex character with full BAB. You've got a good AC, great melee damage, and still good ranged damage. (Assuming two-handed weapon, breastplate and composite longbow).
Anyway, go for it! Your smite evil and lay on hands will definitely see some use.
Anton Klasnic |
Anton Klasnic
Male Human Paladin 2
LG Medium Humanoid (human)
Hero Points 2
Init +3; Senses Perception -1
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Defense
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AC 18, touch 13, flat-footed 15 (+5 armor, +3 Dex)
hp 20 (2d10+2)
Fort +7, Ref +6, Will +6; +2 trait bonus vs. fear effects
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Offense
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Speed 20 ft.
Melee Dagger +4 (1d4+2/19-20/x2) and
Morningstar +4 (1d8+2/x2)
Ranged Longbow +5 (1d8/x3)
Special Attacks smite evil (1/day)
Spell-Like Abilities Detect Evil (At will)
Paladin Spells Prepared (CL 0):
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Statistics
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Str 14, Dex 16, Con 12, Int 10, Wis 8, Cha 16
Base Atk +2; CMB +4; CMD 17
Feats Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot
Traits Indomitable Faith, Making Good on Promises
Skills Acrobatics +0 (-4 jump), Climb -1, Diplomacy +8, Escape Artist +0, Fly +0, Knowledge (religion) +5, Ride +0, Sense Motive +4, Stealth +0, Swim -1
Languages Common
SQ aura of good, hero points, lay on hands (1d6) (4/day)
Combat Gear Potion of cure light wounds; Other Gear Kikko armor, Arrows (25), Blunt arrows (25), Dagger, Longbow, Morningstar, Backpack, masterwork (empty), Candle (3), Canteen, Crowbar, Earplugs, Flint and steel, Desna, Ink, black, Inkpen, Paper (3), Piton (2), Scroll case (empty), Torch (5), 9.95 GP, 6 SP, 9 CP
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TRACKED RESOURCES
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Arrows - 0/25
Blunt arrows - 0/25
Dagger - 0/1
Lay on Hands (1d6) (4/day) (Su) - 0/4
Potion of cure light wounds - 0/2
Smite Evil (1/day) (Su) - 0/1
Torch - 0/5
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Special Abilities
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Aura of Good (Ex) The paladin has an Aura of Good with power equal to her class level.
Detect Evil (At will) (Sp) You can use detect evil at will (as the spell).
Earplugs +2 save vs. hearing effects, -5 hearing-based Perception.
Hero Points (1) Hero Points can be spent at any time to grant a variety of bonuses.
Lay on Hands (1d6) (4/day) (Su) You can heal 1d6 damage, 4/day
Making Good on Promises At some point in the past, Professor Lorrimor did you a favor under the condition that he would someday call on you to repay it. After he came to your aid, however, you never saw nor heard from him again, leaving you with a sense of unending anticipa
Point Blank Shot +1 to attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at up to 30 feet.
Precise Shot You don't get -4 to hit when shooting or throwing into melee.
Smite Evil (1/day) (Su) +3 to hit, +2 to damage, +3 deflection bonus to AC when used.
Anton has undergone some significant changes. He is now a Paladin with some ability adjustments and better skills in diplomacy and sense motive. He can no longer be a sneaky backup, sorry Drosil, but our healing capabilities have certainly been upped. He can switch hit but his focus is still going to be on ranged damage output.
Janos Ardeal |
GM, would Dantrian have had the time and access to the supplies to have made a potion during the two days? Janos has some spare cash and I would love to have a potion of Cure Light when we head into the prison.
Dantrian, you're still willing, right?
Tibideau Maroon LeClerc |
Made one more change. I put my ability focus on Misfortune instead of Slumber, since it's more useful against undead. But I'll just take the Ability Focus feat again at level 3 and put it on Slumber. I know we'll run into something with a mind eventually!
B'yelka Morfaine |
New B'yelka is up under her profile. Took a rank of Linguistics, more to learn Varisian than anything else ;) Bluff and Sense Motive are +12 due to Versatile Performance with Sing. Added Knowledge (Local) and bumped most of her other skills.
Tibi: I have always thought PCs should be immune to mind affecting magics. After all they do some brain dead stuff!
Janos Ardeal |
I don't think it would be Craft at all. Craft is creating more tangible things like books, wagons, horseshoes, etc. Songwriting is more of an artistic, mental endeavor. While you write the music down on paper, that's not really what you're creating. You're creating the song, and you can't touch that.
If it's not already encompassed in Perform: Sing (which I think it could be), then I think it would be Profession: Singer/Songwriter. You're splitting hairs between the ability to sing well and the ability to create the music, but we all know some singers can't write, they just perform the songs, and many, many songwriters can't sing very well.