Joana |
Rest of you up, starting with Linah. Not sure if Patrik back?
He was expecting to be back by the 3rd of July, according to his post here. Probably worth giving him a window to make his triumphant return in, although it's unlikely she's going to do anything other than double move at this point.
Do I ever hate fighting underground against things with darkvision. If we ever make it out of this hole, it's going to take a lot of convincing to get Nuveril underground ever again. Doesn't help that I'm claustrophobic in real life. Carlsbad Caverns is huge, and I still had moments I had to consciously stop myself from panicking at the thought of how much rock was between me and the surface. Just posting in this game sometimes makes me feel like I'm suffocating. (Sleeping underground ... *shudder*.) :P
DM Dan E |
DM Dan E wrote:Rest of you up, starting with Linah. Not sure if Patrik back?He was expecting to be back by the 3rd of July, according to his post here. Probably worth giving him a window to make his triumphant return in, although it's unlikely she's going to do anything other than double move at this point.
Do I ever hate fighting underground against things with darkvision. If we ever make it out of this hole, it's going to take a lot of convincing to get Nuveril underground ever again. Doesn't help that I'm claustrophobic in real life. Carlsbad Caverns is huge, and I still had moments I had to consciously stop myself from panicking at the thought of how much rock was between me and the surface. Just posting in this game sometimes makes me feel like I'm suffocating. (Sleeping underground ... *shudder*.) :P
Checks rest of AP ... think your pretty much good actually.
Sajan Krama Sumna |
I'm STILL very confused, sorry.
I thought Sajan was now through the darkness and out on the other side firstly? Secondly, is being blinded actually the effect of this darkness, because I thought it usually just provided concealment. Finally (and this is just a check), if the concealment applies to these creatures (suspect it does not) they can't get sneak attack off.
DM Dan E |
You had a sphere of darkness centred round about Grall extending out into the straight corridor (probably won't come up but one of the creatures had it precast on a stone in its mouth which is why it spent several rounds not biting). Originally this covered Grall, Khalid the creatures and everyone else was outside.
Sajan moved into it taking his light with him and canelling it. That left the guys in the corridor in darkness (the native condition) which is why I clarified that.
I'm saying "blinded" narratively but your just in the dark. So denied dex without darkvision (which both the creatures and Grall have).
Joana |
Meh, should have fallen back to the octopus room. This fighting in a cramped corridor isn't good for our tactics. No way to get a flank or for several of us to threaten at once.
So, if Grall is now conscious, how are he and the bad guy sharing the same square? Does one of them have to move due to the Accidentally Ending Movement in an Illegal Space clause?
Grall |
I actually had no idea I was that far from the group. Part of the issue I was on vacation, part was no map to connect the dots until it was too late (not your fault Dan, if I would have read more carefully I would have known). I actually thought I was watching from the octopus room...
DM Dan E |
Meh, should have fallen back to the octopus room. This fighting in a cramped corridor isn't good for our tactics. No way to get a flank or for several of us to threaten at once.
So, if Grall is now conscious, how are he and the bad guy sharing the same square? Does one of them have to move due to the Accidentally Ending Movement in an Illegal Space clause?
Bit of a hole in the rules. It can move into his square when he's helpless but then a conflict when he wakes up. Allowing him to get up and squeeze the enemy seems a bit cheesy so tend to think he can't stand while its there.
Sajan Krama Sumna |
As Joana said, the Accidentally Ending Movement in an Illegal Space clause seems most appropriate here.
Its likely to end up moot. Sajan goes before Grall next anyway and the demon's likely to be grappled once more so Grall can stand up regardless.
DM Dan E |
Thought about it overnight and I do think Accidentally Ending Movement in an Illegal Space probably best. It causes the least amount of detriment to either thing affected and I'd prefer to use existing rules wherever appropriate. On that basis the creature shifted to Q,26 on Linah's impulse which doesn't change Nuveril's attack. So you have it in Q,26, Nuveril in P,26 and Grall prone in P,27.
Joana |
You'll need to make a save a round although you could delay til the end of the round. You really don't want to end up prone in the pit with it :) Haste expires after Zeladiel's action.
With the penalties to AC from being in the dark (no Dex and an additional -2), I'm pretty sure it's going to hit her on anything but a natural 1 anyway. Grall's the only one who can see it, and he's both fatigued and badly injured, and Nuveril only has 3 rounds of Rage left before she's as bad off. Honestly, the only hope any of us have is to get hit by it so we can locate it, survive the hit, and roll over 50% on our own attacks. It can slaughter all of us in the dark at its leisure before going out and facing Sajan in the light.
I hate darkness.... :P
Sajan Krama Sumna |
I'll be out of contact until the very end of July, due to a trip to Kiev followed by days spent packing up the flat i'm living in here in Ukraine followed by a 3 day bus journey back. Its easier to just declare my absence now rather than try and keep up with things during this busy time. Roll on August!
Patrik Ström |
Linah, BTW I think you are missing your domain power you got at 6th for healing.
"Healer's Blessing (Su): At 6th level, all of your cure spells are treated as if they were empowered, increasing the amount of damage healed by half (+50%). This does not apply to damage dealt to undead with a cure spell. This does not stack with the Empower Spell metamagic feat."
I added 10 more to my cure for it.
Ah, right you are. I've been waiting for that one so long i forgot about it :) Right now i wish i was lvl8 so i could cast Nimbus of light.
Have fun i Kiev, AK!
Grall |
Once we get out of here, you should just scribe several of them and keep the slot open for other things. It is a great scroll to carry. If we have some time we should keep a couple of invisibility purges as well on scrolls. Another is align weapon. I could go on...my latest tabletop character is a 15th level Cleric with scribe scroll in Second Darkness...he carries about 50 scrolls in his haversack...
Nuveril |
A dull roar announces the iceball's impact, Zeladiel trusting in Nuveril's agility to avoid falling within its area of effectlol.
Pssh. Whatever. He's totally trying to kill me.
Zeladiel ignores Nuveril's remarks, knowing Grall will live.
See? Nothing about that b&!%#y halfling surviving.
Joana |
Oh, i thought that light would at least bring it up to dim lighting. D'oh!
Yeah, the only way to make any difference to magical darkness is with a light spell of equal or higher level. Hence, the daylight suggestion above. Or dispel magic also works, as we've learned, but you don't have to take the risk of rolling a caster level check with daylight. (OTOH, dispel magic is useful in more situations.)
Did you catch Grall's post, DM? He posted as you were replying to Linah. I have the feeling that if it were Nuveril who insisted on a solo fight while the rest of the party were waiting in more friendly terrain, she'd get scolded for not being a team player. No one ever scolds the gnoll.... ;P
Sajan Krama Sumna |
Sajan would happily scold the Gnoll. If he wasn't sat on the other side of a ball of darkness wondering what was going on.
Day after tomorrow I go to a Ukrainian city (sounds like Levoff, I don't know how its spelt) by train then hop aboard the next day for my 3 day coach journey through Europe.