Sir Constantine Godalming |
Added some info, let me see is it works
Which is to say my current AC is 22, if/when I start smiting it will jump up to 24.
DM
Can I use the rolls I used in the spoiler tag to attack the dwarf?
Secondly can I assume that the stuff the dwarf is saying can be used to decide to smite said dwarf (he must be evil for calling us mooks)?
Third, call out orders to the others in a post, even if I do not need to make any rolls for this round?
Haruka Shiraboshi |
do I get heling form my healing judgement (I think I used that in the frist round)?
what kind of check do I need to get somone out of the goo? and would having Magic fang help?
how much talking is a free action? (thiking about giving robe guy a "fire and brimstone speach")
is there someone between me and the pile of gear?(can I reach it with one move action without AoO?)
Osei Otieno |
My two bits:
Given that we know the robed fellow is an arcane caster of some sort ("So? They're mooks, you dimwit. Just fireball them."), someone needs to be threatening him. In that way, we'll get AoOs on him and maybe he'll blow a concentration check.
That goes for Lewis as well if he's a debuffer/controller ("In your brief combat, Lewis did something that made you all feel weak and bad.").
The demon - eh, not sure about capabilities. Maybe not as effective in combat as magically/control. Though at our relative levels, it won't take too much to be effective against us.
Dwarf - Anyone have reflex save abilities to use against Mr. Plate Armor?
Balacertar |
I have prepared a simple map to track movement of everybody.
You can find it here. Everybody can edit, moving their token on their actions.
The GM can check if movement is correct, and previous states of the combat on the "Previous modifications" link.
I have tried to guess as best as I could the house distribution. First slide is the underground, second slide is the upper part of the house.
Also, please, change the NPC tokens to those you like following the idea you have of their appearance (I made my best here but I am sure they differ a lot). Paizo Avatar page has very good examples and they can very easily transferred into the map (copy url from the image, then go to the map Insert>Image>From url, select the image and fix the size and change the border if you wish).
Everybody should be able to fix their current position, I also made my best to guess where is everybody at the moment.
If you find it useful, feel free to place it on the Campaign Info short description so it is easily available at all the campaign pages.
Balek Nine-fingered |
Looks good. Might be nice to put it in the campaign resources tab so we don't have to try and keep track of where the link is.
How do I shrink my icon back down to regular size? (I'm not enlarged.)
Douglas Muir 406 |
Can I use the rolls I used in the spoiler tag to attack the dwarf?
Secondly can I assume that the stuff the dwarf is saying can be used to decide to smite said dwarf (he must be evil for calling us mooks)?
Third, call out orders to the others in a post, even if I do not need to make any rolls for this round?
1) If you make an attack roll in the gameplay thread, you must use it.
2) On one hand, using someone's statements is totally fine. On the other, just calling you mooks doesn't really identify him as evil. On the other-other hand, he's wearing creepy looking green insect armor while holding a bunch of crusaders captive.
Note that crying smite on an opponent who turns out not to be evil is not a violation of the paladin's code or anything like that... it's just a waste of resources.
3) Call out orders all you like! Whether anyone listens is a separate question. But speech is always a free action, and table talk is encouraged.
Douglas Muir 406 |
I have prepared a simple map to track movement of everybody.
You can find it here. Everybody can edit, moving their token on their actions.
So, just moving the tokens around will edit it? I don't have to click "Save" or something?
The GM can check if movement is correct, and previous states of the combat on the "Previous modifications" link.
Okay, I moved things to better match the actual situation. There are doors at either end of the room -- one between Lewis and the treasure, the other opposite. One is an exit, the other leads to a small side room, normally used to store supplies.
If you find it useful, feel free to place it on the Campaign Info short description so it is easily available at all the campaign pages.
I think it will be useful... let's try it. Thank you!
Balacertar |
How do I shrink my icon back down to regular size? (I'm not enlarged.)
Select the token, once the blue mark appears around, you can click over that mark and holding down move the selection for the object to modify its size.
But I think you are enlarged right now, Kyami started to cast as soon as Takka descended, thus the spell should have taken effect by now.
So, just moving the tokens around will edit it? I don't have to click "Save" or something?
Sure! It auto-saves on the fly! It confused me a lot at the beginning too.
You can undo changes with CTRL-Z, and the usual key combinations for copy and paste works too (CTRL-C and CTRL-V).Haruka Shiraboshi |
do I get haeling form my healing judgement (I think I used that in the frist round)?
what kind of check do I need to get somone out of the goo? and would having Magic fang help?
how much talking is a free action? (thiking about giving robe guy (traitor) a "fire and brimstone speach")
I suggest adding a comment with the name of each character to its icon (makes it easier to tell the npcs appart)
Is the wizard guy (I am guessing its the one with the blond icon) armed?
Douglas Muir 406 |
Also, please, change the NPC tokens to those you like following the idea you have of their appearance (I made my best here but I am sure they differ a lot). Paizo Avatar page has very good examples and they can very easily transferred into the map (copy url from the image, then go to the map Insert>Image>From url, select the image and fix the size and change the border if you wish).
I don't use the Avatar page... where is it?
Also, I think you've done a pretty reasonable job. Please continue. It's getting a little crowded now, but one way or another I expect things will get simpler.
Balacertar |
I don't use the Avatar page... where is it?
It is in "My Account" at the top of the website. There is a section called "Messageboard Settings" where you can change your profile avatar.
In the section just below, the "Messageboard Aliases" you can also edit the avatars of your aliases.
With the second mouse button (or maintaining the image touched in tablets), you can open a menu where you can usually find an option to copy the Url of the image. You can easily use that Url then on the Google Docs Insert Image.
You can just easily do the same with your player images from here in the forum.
Balek Nine-fingered |
DMDM mentioned that he'd show NPC rolls, but not the bonuses. So, yes, it looks like the dwarf hit on a 4. Probably a lotta bonuses, maybe still buffed from the fight earlier that captured us if there are some long-lasting bonuses floating around, not forgetting the valorous kobold's -2 AC from charging.
At least we're lucky Larva-Brain's (probably) not a trip fighter with Combat Reflexes. ;)
Sir Constantine Godalming |
I am honestly hoping that in the event anyone even touches the wizard he will give up without resistance and not be pressured into casting spells against us nor be killed by the BBEG's when/if we lose.
As scared as he is I don't see him changing sides unless a major swing of this battle happens.......
@Takka
Did we ever finish that background and how much/to what extent I am responsible for you? Because we will eventually need to have that all fine tuned.
Balacertar |
Good thing for Takka is that dwarf glaive has reach. He cannot hit the way he did it, he has to be 10' away from the kobold.
That means the dwarf has to move to attack 10', which means he first needs to pass an acrobatics check due to grease.
Even then he will receive a lot of AoO. And if hit, he needs another acrobatics check as for the balance rule.
Again, due to the grease the dwarf is flatfooted while moving which means no Dex to AC against those AoOs.
It might be you are still on feet Takka! :-)
Takka of the Toad |
@Takka
Did we ever finish that background and how much/to what extent I am responsible for you? Because we will eventually need to have that all fine tuned.
That's true, we never did get into details. Though honestly, I think Takka would view SCG as more of a ward than vice versa. XD If they met around a year ago, I imagine by this point, Constantine could no longer be responsible for Takka or his poor decisions. He should know well enough by now. He's just... not very good at it. :P
Sir Constantine Godalming |
Sir Constantine Godalming wrote:That's true, we never did get into details. Though honestly, I think Takka would view SCG as more of a ward than vice versa. XD If they met around a year ago, I imagine by this point, Constantine could no longer be responsible for Takka or his poor decisions. He should know well enough by now. He's just... not very good at it. :P@Takka
Did we ever finish that background and how much/to what extent I am responsible for you? Because we will eventually need to have that all fine tuned.
More like an older and uglier sibling....you got the looks, the brains, the charm and your my parent's favorite....
Paging one cavalier with matching attitude........
Takka
Ok so we will each just write a summary of that year and then match them together and say yep that's what happened. Seems like we don't have time in game to really post a years worth of RP!
Osei Otieno |
Never heard something like that in the rules.
Main disadvantage of using reach weapons is you cannot attack at 5' feet. Otherwise why to ever use other weapon?
You also did not mention it before, the text just reads he stoms the glaive in Takka.
Unfortunately for us, there is Paizo material that allows this.
Douglas Muir 406 |
I was gonna say, I think he's a polearm master archetype.
Also... I can act? I thought I was knocked out and unconscious? WHich means I'm just laying there, aren't I?
Scan up a few posts. I forgot to add the negative modifier for "choking up" on the polearm. So I retconned. See it? You're still at 1 hp.
Edit: This post here.
Douglas Muir 406 |
Aw man. Sometimes, I wish the dice would reflect the energy you put into a speech or social skill. X)
I'm enjoying Takka a lot, and I'm happy to occasionally throw in a modifier for a cool speech or action.
(That said... DIPLOMACY TAKES TEN ROUNDS, PEOPLE. It's not a skill you can use in the middle of combat.)
Haruka Shiraboshi |
Plan of action:
A) cast magic fang on self, move up to Lewis to stop his casting/give sleek flanking
B) cast create water Laurine and Anycek to help against fascination(if dousing in cold water helps against that) and on Lewis to disrupt his concentration/anoy him
right now I am leaning to A)
Douglas Muir 406 |
Wait, Diplomacy takes 10 rounds?
If it didn't, everyone would play Silver Tongued human Cha monkeys with Skill Focus (Diplomacy). You'd be able to stop most monsters dead in their tracks, flipping them from Hostile to Friendly with a standard action.
-- Incidentally, I'm thinking to ask which house rules (if any) you guys might want to adopt. High on my list would be Rich Burlew's alternate Diplomacy rule.
Mith'aj the Tactful |
Takka of the Toad wrote:Wait, Diplomacy takes 10 rounds?
If it didn't, everyone would play Silver Tongued human Cha monkeys with Skill Focus (Diplomacy). You'd be able to stop most monsters dead in their tracks, flipping them from Hostile to Friendly with a standard action.
-- Incidentally, I'm thinking to ask which house rules (if any) you guys might want to adopt. High on my list would be Rich Burlew's alternate Diplomacy rule.
I like Burlew's rule, as it seems more realistic and drops the action time to 1 minute. Will there need to be any conversion since PF skill ranks work a bit differently? I suppose not, as it still rewards those with Diplomacy as a class skill/invested ranks.
As for others, I'm not super familiar, beyond selfish ones I would want (Universalist tweak).
Balacertar |
I have no idea what Lewis is using, but just for your reference take this into account please:
Fascinated: A fascinated creature is entranced by a supernatural or spell effect. The creature stands or sits quietly, taking no actions other than to pay attention to the fascinating effect, for as long as the effect lasts. It takes a –4 penalty on skill checks made as reactions, such as Perception checks. Any potential threat, such as a hostile creature approaching, allows the fascinated creature a new saving throw against the fascinating effect. Any obvious threat, such as someone drawing a weapon, casting a spell, or aiming a ranged weapon at the fascinated creature, automatically breaks the effect. A fascinated creature's ally may shake it free of the spell as a standard action.
Douglas Muir 406 |
Nobody has attacked any of the fascinated creatures, nor has anyone targeted any of them with a spell.
The enemies haven't been moving much. The dwarf doesn't dare take a step because of the grease, Lewis has been standing still while singing, and the robed man has only taken a single 5' step. The demon moved about 10' across the room, but she didn't actually "approach" anyone except Kir and Benno (already unconscious) and Haruka (not fascinated).
So I think we're within RAW here. If absolutely any movement or action by enemies broke the fascination, this spell would be pretty useless.