DM Bloodgargler's Heroes of the Shiv

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Plug-in module>Racing to Ruin (Book 2 of Serpent's Skull)


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Female Elf Bard (Dervish Dancer) 4/Fighter 1

Hah, I did. Oops. XD


Ok ... I'll have to pause til tomorrow.


Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

And i will wait till tomorrow :)


M Elf Wizard 4

In case anyone is still having trouble with the GoogleDocs map, I saved a copy of it to my photobucket./


Ok On my way home. Had no service at cabin. I'll repost map old way and update in 8 hours.


Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

Take your time,we'll wait.


OK I'm going through my games now. Let me know if you have questions, I'll post savage turn once I go through some more stuff.

map before savage's turn. (also not including Syndlara's and maybe Gath's pre-round 1 placement


M Elf Wizard 4

@Bloodgargler: I just caught a gameplay post from you on the RSS feed that isn't there on the gameplay page. If you deleted it because you needed to make changes, then no worries. But if it was a forum error, I wanted to give you a heads up.


Ah thanks. Good old firefox kept it for me.


Dorf

I got a 12 on my attack roll with the flask after a 5 ft step forward to cliff. What now?


Female Elf Bard (Dervish Dancer) 4/Fighter 1
Iolana wrote:
The girl shouts while running on Syndlara's foe.

I assume she's going after the savage nearer Mugambi--Syndlara just killed the one next to her in round 2.


Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

I must have missed that part,but then Iolana sprinted to reach him,so she didn't attack.


M Elf Wizard 4

D-17 is still up though, right? At least a little bit?


Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

Iolana sprinted to reach the other,the one close to Mugambi


Dorf

Wonder what's in the basket ?


M Elf Wizard 4

I bet it's a snake!


K Gatherine bought you at least a round to either run or prepare. (shattered shoulder bow guy is still up too)


M Elf Wizard 4

Some ooc observations:

On fighting the enemy at range:

  • Tol and Iolana have a sling and shortbow, respectively, which can hit the top of the cliff without range penalty.
  • Gatherine has her pistol, but the top of the cliff is at least 2 range increments for her.
  • Mugambi has Averin's longbow, but is not proficient with it. Tol, Iolana, and Gatherine are proficient.
  • Syndlara has no ranged weapon (OK, a dagger...)
  • There is one bowman on the ground; if Iolana and Syndlara take him out, that's one more bow, which anyone but Mugambi is proficient with.

    On closing for melee:

  • Only Iolana has any points in climb, but she has an armor check penalty.

    Generally:

  • They can probably throw big rocks down at us.

    All that said, what are the mechanics for Tol grabbing Gatherine and hauling her into the saddle?


  • Female Elf Bard (Dervish Dancer) 4/Fighter 1

    Syndlara is also automatically proficient with longbows, as an elf. And no, she doesn't have a ranged weapon. When I was creating her, the longbow I had given her got cut in order to keep her wealth-by-level roughly the same as the rest of you. xD

    Syndlara doesn't have any ranks in Climb and has a net -1 penalty to the roll (+1 for Str, -2 for armor check penalty), but that is an option.


    M Elf Wizard 4

    I'm not judging anybody's build or equipment; I'm just judging whether it's time to run. :-)


    Oracle lvl 4 [ HP 26/34 | AC 21 T 12 FF 19 | CMD 17 | F +3 R +3 W +3 | Init +2 Per -2]

    From last rounds posts I though the second guy, the bow user, was dead. Thats why i ran back to regroup. Could i retcon my actions DM Blood? Attack him and then move if he goes under? If not then the bowman have an AoO agaisnt me when i run away from him.

    PS: Yes, i was considering if it was time to retreat also. If anyone wants to use Averin's bow just ask, I will pass it to the person.


    Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

    I was considering switching to the bow,but would need to be free of enemies,it's why Iolana went first for the ground foe.Can only change weapon once per round,and wouldn't have savages getting in melee range while changing back to scimitar.

    But Iolana only has 2 pool points (20 more rounds of +1 weapon) and one lvl 1 spell left,then she would have to resort to the pearl to use another magic missile or shocking grasp.


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    M Elf Wizard 4

    I think running is a good idea. But I also think that we could win the fight if we tried, as long as there aren't even more archers coming. Tol's main goal is to protect Gatherine, so he's all for running. But if Gatherine wants to stay and fight, I am perfectly happy with her telling Tol off and getting ready to shoot as soon as the smoke clears, or coming up with more improvised incendiary devices. Which are awesome, by the way.


    Dorf

    Let's take a vote. Let's fight! We can win!! And thin the tribe's numbers considerably!


    Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

    Iolana too will bow to the majority,but she is for running.


    Dorf

    I honestly think I have one more flask of oil...Hmm..too bad I can't wrap some gunpowder into a rag and have either Tol use his sling to toss it into the flames or whoever has a bow attach it to an arrow.I can dream...but gonna wait on a vote for fight or flee before I act.


    Female Elf Bard (Dervish Dancer) 4/Fighter 1

    Seems like something that should be RPed out rather than voted on ooc, in my opinion.


    Dorf

    Went back in earlier posts to check equip/ treasure. I just used a flask of oil,out of the 6 we found.I know Iolana has one too.And Mugambi has the....knitted fetishes with Jump spell and something else.Who else has oil?


    Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

    Yes, Iolana has 1 flask.It will be hard to RP such an issue in char,since if everyone acted like he/she is going to anyway,some of us would stay and some would run;in gameplay we don't have the time to sit down and discuss.


    Dwarf Beast Rider Honor Guard (Cavalier) 3; AC 18/11/17; CMD 17; Saves +5/+2/+1 (+2 vs. pois., sp, sla); hp 28/31

    I think the decision should be RPed out, and made with consideration for character motivation. Voting in character is impractical and democracy makes for lousy stories anyway. But I think OOC discussion of what we each see our characters doing is appropriate, since this is an issue that's difficult to work out in initiative order. I don't want to metagame based on out-of character tactical knowledge or the assumption that this is a level-appropriate encounter; but I'd like to know if everyone else thinks this is a group of people who will run away rather than fight against superior numbers in very unfavorable terrain.

    As I said above, Tol is for running, but will stay and fight as long as Gatherine stays. He's not above dragging her away by force if he hears a general call for retreat, though.


    Dorf

    Immediate...how do I calculate the range penalty for my gun? By 10 feet?


    Yep. A cumulative -2 penalty for each 10 feet past the first. But with a grit point you can make it a touch attack.


    Female Human (varisian) Magus 5

    Iolana would simply say to run to more favorable terrain and look if we are followed.


    Dorf

    Okay.I LLC use a grit point. So I would roll normally?


    Oracle lvl 4 [ HP 26/34 | AC 21 T 12 FF 19 | CMD 17 | F +3 R +3 W +3 | Init +2 Per -2]

    I am in for running. Main problem is we will probably lose captain's trail if we do so.


    Dorf

    Bah.Fine. we shift to a more favorable position.then its blazing barrels and moltolv cocktail time.


    Dorf

    Hey.I just thought of something. What if the cannibals ate the captain and Ieana?!


    Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

    We can only keep looking,after all the chasing of those two is the focus of this part of the AP.


    That would be anti-climactic, following the tracks all the way to a half-eaten meatloaf.


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    M Elf Wizard 4

    It's odd... the tracks seem to lead into this giant pot, but all that's in there is a hearty stew...


    M Elf Wizard 4

    @Bloodgargler: I just noticed this issue with the Beast Rider cavalier archetype, and I'm curious what your ruling is. Some people seem to advocate making the listed mounts large at 4; some people advocate letting a medium character ride a medium animal; some advocate letting the character have a "mount" he can't ride; and some say you can't actually select anything but horse and camel until level 7.

    I'm theoretically okay with any option, although I would opt out of actually riding a medium mount, since that seems silly to me. So far, Tol has been very mounted-combat focused, but that's not my long-term goal; it's just what makes sense at low levels, while riding around outdoors. I'd actually like an unrideable medium mount, because it's easy to take into dungeons, etc., but I think that defeats the concept of the class.


    The post by Jjaamm was my assumption, and how I'd prefer to run it.


    Dorf

    Your average horse stands nearly 6 ft tall at the shoulders and 9 feet long from flank to front and sighs 700 lbs and up.That's a small one.If that ain't large,then woo. And how the bleep 3'9" Tol vaults into the saddle is a feat itself,especially fully armored.

    And as a farmer,I know very well that a horse can enter the average home's doorway and stand easily in your living room...: (


    M Elf Wizard 4

    That was my initial assumption too, but I didn't look at the animal companions in question to see when they normally advance to large. As long as you're comfortable with it, I'm happy doing it that way.

    No question that a horse is large, and I agree it's hilarious that a dwarf less than 4' tall can vault in to the saddle. Or reach down far enough to help Gatherine up, for that matter.

    While a horse or ther large creature certainly can fit in a dungeon, it's hard for one to maneuver in cramped (less than 10' wide) hallways, so they (and their rider) get a -4 penalty to AC and attack rolls. Also, horses in particular don't like to do things like walk down stone steps into dark caves. Stairs and enclosed spaces are less scary to tigers, for example.

    I was originally thinking that a dinosaur would be a goofy option, but I guess it turns out that there are lots of dinosaurs down here, so they make sense after all. I'll wait to see what makes most sense when level 4 rolls around, though.


    Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38

    It is more than a week now that the region i live in (Emilia Romagna) is constantly struck by earthquakes of at least 5.5 magnitude on the
    Richter scale.Many towns around my place have been heavily damaged and there are about 20 victims so far,luckily my town is yet untouched,but we are very worried.


    Eesh ... just reading about it now. Pretty awful when you don't know if it is "done".

    Shadow Lodge

    Mook lvl 12

    I saw it on the news also. Be safe my friend. Hope everything turns out alright.


    Dorf

    Wow.that's terrible.Be safe and hopefully it passes by.I experienced my 1st earthquake here in MD,USA and was bewildered after sitting in the middle of a field and was tossed off a stump.every single creature on my farm went deadly quiet and still.nothing in my house so much as twitched but a huge mirror cracked completely in half against my bedroom wall.I can't believe these things are as common as rain in California and the west coast of united states.


    Dwarf Beast Rider Honor Guard (Cavalier) 3; AC 18/11/17; CMD 17; Saves +5/+2/+1 (+2 vs. pois., sp, sla); hp 28/31

    It's an Apparatus of Kwalish!

    Disclaimer:
    That was a joke. If by ludicrous chance it really is an apparatus of kwalish (which I think is Wizards IP anyway) in a low-level adventure, I did not mean to spoil it.


    Male Mazinger-type Fan of Go Nagai level 38
    Tol Cherthand wrote:
    It's an Apparatus of Kwalish!

    In the end it really was.

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