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DM Barcas - Kingmaker: Rivers Run Red

Game Master Isaac Duplechain

As Newhaven rises, threats besiege it from all directions. To the north, the news of the last heir of House Rogarvia threatens the start of a new war. To the south, an empire of trolls and monsters grows.


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Miscalculation on my hp, it's 9 not 8, 6 for d10 + 2 con + 1 toughness.

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Nikolai will definitely be taking a level of barbarian. I'll fix all that up today.

With your permission Isaac, I'm changing the Skill Focus feat for Nikolai. I will keep it as Skill Focus to qualify for Eldritch Heritage, but I cannot imagine why I thought the Destiny bloodline was the way to go. Fey, Dragon and demons are part of his tortured makeup, and it should be one of those. I am actually thinking demons because the first level gives you claws, which we can call demonic and or draconic as his story dictates.

Coo?


Sounds good to me. One can easily justify Knowledge: Planes by the fact that he and Jemini went there personally. As a matter of fact, it would make a lot of sense that he would focus on that. Strength of the Abyss would be pretty helpful, as it eventually gives a +6 inherent bonus to Strength.

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Oh? I hadn't noticed. :b


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

Finally leveled up Taisper:
3+1 HP *sigh*
Bluff 1
Craft (Traps) 2
Intimidate 2
Swim 1
Disguise 2
Bane class feature
Discern Lies class feature
Remaining judgments went up 1
Feat: Judgment Surge
2nd level spell: Blistering Invective


Male Human Fighter (Archer) 6

Ftr 5
HP 6+1
Skills: 2 + 1 (int)+ 1 (Fav bonus): 2 Know Geog, 2 Know Nature, 1 Survival
Fighter: Expert Archer -> +1/+1 with bows
Feat: Iron Will

I added the bow, unless someone has a claim. That would free up a MW Comp bow (+2 str) if anyone wants it.


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

I'd gladly take that bow. Might also provide a nice scene between Zander and Taisper (who ain't talked much with each other lately), since Zander was the one who originally got Taisper to realize the superiority of the bow as a tool of the trade, and sort-of gave him his first bow.


Okay, you guys on the island: Zander improves his bow to a +2 strength rating. The stash found by Berrin and Nikolai has the following items in it: 4,875 gold pieces; approximately 4,000 gold pieces worth of gems and jewelry; a ring of protection (+2), a belt of giant strength (+2), sash of the war champion, and a elven cloak.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10
Akiros Ismort wrote:

It's been in my head for a while that the party could use some more arcane support, and so I've been toying with the idea of dipping Akiros into something along those lines. Haven't found anything that seems to fit yet though. Any ideas?

Hmmm, so no thoughts on something arcane that might fit for Akiros eh? Guess I'll have to delve a little deeper into the books.

PS Nice loot haul gang! ^-^


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

@Zander; I'm gonna go ahead and add the MW Composite bow +2 to my gear, and initiate an RP scene for the handoff.


Yeah I haven't thought of anything except maybe Magus, or perhaps Eldritch Knight (though that takes a significant investment). With 13the Charisma, some of the Arcane Heritage options might fit. In any case, it's tough for me to imagine because Akiros has always been a pure martial who relies on his own willpower and nothing else. But he's not my character, so I don't get a vote.


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
Akiros Ismort wrote:
Akiros Ismort wrote:

It's been in my head for a while that the party could use some more arcane support, and so I've been toying with the idea of dipping Akiros into something along those lines. Haven't found anything that seems to fit yet though. Any ideas?

Hmmm, so no thoughts on something arcane that might fit for Akiros eh? Guess I'll have to delve a little deeper into the books.

Yeah unless it's Bard with a particular archetype that fits I just don't see the connection - if anything I could see him splash in a divine class if he's coming to terms with his past. I don't really know how the Arcane Heritage feats work though that sounds like a neat flavor approach if you have the feats to pull it off.

I have been toying around with the idea of Verik splashing Bard w/ the Archivist Archetype, but that's really from a notion of being better at lore and knowledge. Then again, it's hard to justify diluting the cleric...really my issue is a lack of INT and skill points.


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
DM Barcas wrote:
Okay, you guys on the island: Zander improves his bow to a +2 strength rating. The stash found by Berrin and Nikolai has the following items in it: 4,875 gold pieces; approximately 4,000 gold pieces worth of gems and jewelry; a ring of protection (+2), a belt of giant strength (+2), sash of the war champion, and a elven cloak.

Wow that sash could be really effective for Berrin under the right circumstances right? If I read that correctly, wouldn't that allow him to take on full plate and still have full 30' movement and keep his full Dex bonus? Great look to it too. I suppose though the Bravery function doesn't apply to the Tactician archetype, nor does either benefit apply to the Archer archetype.

As I player I'm digging the loot, but as sweet as that ring or some extra strength would be, I believe I'd have to pass with Verik being focused on the things he could craft in the name of Abadar. If anything I'd look to get a good share of the cash and then craft some wands for us, an amulet and helm/hat of some kind.


Akiros Ismort wrote:
Akiros Ismort wrote:

It's been in my head for a while that the party could use some more arcane support, and so I've been toying with the idea of dipping Akiros into something along those lines. Haven't found anything that seems to fit yet though. Any ideas?

Hmmm, so no thoughts on something arcane that might fit for Akiros eh? Guess I'll have to delve a little deeper into the books.

With Akiros' 12 cha and 10 int he'd have to go for a spontaneous spell casting class to be able to gain any spell levels, a destined sorcerer might fit or a bard-arcane duelist but he'd never be any good at it and he'd loose martial prowess in the exchange of being a mediocre-at-best supporting spell caster.

Isaac is right about the magus though, you could use your cha as your spelcasting stat and with magic items you might gain 4th or even 6th lvl spells eventually, the DC would never reach any heights but that shouldn't matter with support spells, though you'd have to drop your armor down a notch and lose your shield unless you plan on dropping a feat or two to loose the spell failure chance. Unless your fine with it which would make for some interesting roleplay maybe...

It's your call the way you see Akiros evolving but imo it's just not worth it crunch wise or support wise. I'd love to have more arcane support for the group but I just don't see it on the horizon with the current group make up till Eoin gets back or somebody steps up to play Alexius.

My 2 cp.


DM Barcas wrote:
Okay, you guys on the island: Zander improves his bow to a +2 strength rating. The stash found by Berrin and Nikolai has the following items in it: 4,875 gold pieces; approximately 4,000 gold pieces worth of gems and jewelry; a ring of protection (+2), a belt of giant strength (+2), sash of the war champion, and a elven cloak.

Dibs on the lot ;)

No seriously, I'd love to have the Sash :)

Do you guys remember if we calculated the worth of magic items by selling price or buying price when divvying up the loot? I'll check but if anyone remember he's welcome to save me the fuss.


Found it. Buying worth. And we seem to have calculated magic arms and armor by base price + masterwork price + enchantment price. A +1 morningstar f.ex is tagged 2308.

Before we go ahead with dividing the loot I think we should have another discussion on it's division because we have so many new additions to the party.

What we've done so far is add up the total value of the loot and divide it by the number of pcs creating a gp pool for each character, then we divide up the items and subtract their value from each ones pool so as everyone gets a fair share of the loot regardless of the item distribution, that is; if you don't claim an item you get either more gold now or a certain credit, first dibs as such, on future loot.

Zander's loot spread sheet.

Make sense to everyone? Hope I explained this correctly.

Any input?


Akiros Ismort wrote:
Akiros Ismort wrote:

It's been in my head for a while that the party could use some more arcane support, and so I've been toying with the idea of dipping Akiros into something along those lines. Haven't found anything that seems to fit yet though. Any ideas?

Hmmm, so no thoughts on something arcane that might fit for Akiros eh? Guess I'll have to delve a little deeper into the books.

A thought, isn't Akiros written up as a fallen paladin? Chasing an atonement for him quest would serve as a nice side quest imo.


Flurry of Posts! *KAPOW!*


The sash will affect whatever analagous class ability that replaces bravery. With the proficiency in heavy armorial from Cavalier, Berrin could use heavy armor without a speed penalty and with -2 to armor check penalty and +2 to maximum Dexterity bonus.


Would it bump up the tactical awareness (ex) that replaces bravery for Berrin or would Berrin gain the bravery (ex) as if at level 4?

Double dibs on the sash btw.


It would increase the Tactical Awareness ability, as it is what replaced Bravery.


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
Berrin Myrdal wrote:
Flurry of Posts! *KAPOW!*

BLAMMO! I cannot withstand the onslaught of the post-tacularness of your post-nipotence and surrender!


That was a really good post, Verik. I imagine that he will remain perpetually awkward in the air.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

Hey thanks so much for all the input everyone! Really helped to clarify my varied thinking on things.

And for the most part I agree with you all, Akiros is a martial character, and is good at it. My desire for something arcane was really from a tactical standpoint in seeing the need for it in our party, as opposed to what ould seem most natural for Akiros.

From his history and way of living, there doesn't really seem to be any good or logical reason for him to dip into the arcane.

The only idea that does make sense is Berrin's fallen paladin line. And I do like that approach. But we already have a wonderful paladin and besides, it would take several levels before he started getting any divine spellcasting ability.

I'll give it a little more thought, but it looks like he'll be remaining a sword slinger for now.

Thanks so much again!

PS that was indeed an awesome scene Verik!


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

@DM Barcus: So what's happening with Akiros boss? And how is the timing working out? If there's gonna be a fight, would the guards have heard it and told Berrin and them when they arrive? Or...?


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
DM Barcas wrote:
That was a really good post, Verik. I imagine that he will remain perpetually awkward in the air.

Thanks! Yeah we can't have Verik all gracefully soaring around and eagle like and all - that just won't do :)


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
Akiros Ismort wrote:
@DM Barcus: So what's happening with Akiros boss? And how is the timing working out? If there's gonna be a fight, would the guards have heard it and told Berrin and them when they arrive? Or...?

Jeez Akiros will you kill that wench already - I want to come into the room and see you standing on her corpse with one foot on her and a mug raised in a Captain Morgan style pose. I'd pay real copper to see that!


Female Half-Elf Chameleon3/TWF3/Enchanter1
Verik The Cheapskate wrote:
"I'd pay real copper to see that!"

*shakes head*

Typical Abadarian... ;-)


I'm attempting to make a loot sheet like Zander's. It's not as easy as it looks making a google spreadsheet, I keep hitting walls with the bloody thing!


HERE!

How's it look?


Edited the sheet, calculated the claimed loot worth by selling value instead of buying value. Seems fair as that's the amount of gold we'd get for it.

Is nobody going to claim anything? The cloak would go well with Taisper I believe f.ex. I'm sure Nikolai would like more strength or AC same as Verik... Do you think Akiros would like some of it?


btw. I'm aiming at getting the calendar up to speed as well today (home with the flu).


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
Gliressa Arajdniel Narathir wrote:
Verik The Cheapskate wrote:
"I'd pay real copper to see that!"

*shakes head*

Typical Abadarian... ;-)

Heh -- well true and then there's the part about the "Fine Print" that Akiros has to comply with or else the payment is null and void...

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Nikolai can make pretty good use of the belt. He needs AC, but maybe we're better off bumping up a higher AC to really high instead of basically removing Nikolai's rage penalty.

Either way. Or neither.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10
Verik of Abadar wrote:
Gliressa Arajdniel Narathir wrote:
Verik The Cheapskate wrote:
"I'd pay real copper to see that!"

*shakes head*

Typical Abadarian... ;-)

Heh -- well true and then there's the part about the "Fine Print" that Akiros has to comply with or else the payment is null and void...

At this point< I'd be happy to have him survive the whole thing. Tried to make it realistic and also a fair fight, but after failing a few important skill checks and that acid dagger she's got (and him no armor), frankly I'm a wee bit nervous, ya might say : p


Are ye now?

I haven't been ignoring you. Just crafting it in my mind.

Plus I don't want to make an important post from my phone.


I'm hoping Berrin's intimacy comes off as a bit childish. He's supposed to be a bit simple with 8 wis.


Berrin Myrdal wrote:
"And so what if I get all the girls? I see now you had the right of it, holding out for the right one..." he says with a nod to Jemini.

Cue Verik turning bright, super-crimson red, casting fly upon himself, and never being seen again...

Or being choked to death in his sleep by Nikolai.


DM Barcas wrote:
Berrin Myrdal wrote:
"And so what if I get all the girls? I see now you had the right of it, holding out for the right one..." he says with a nod to Jemini.

Cue Verik turning bright, super-crimson red, casting fly upon himself, and never being seen again...

Or being choked to death in his sleep by Nikolai.

*grins evilly* Caught that, did you?


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10
Berrin Myrdal wrote:
DM Barcas wrote:
Berrin Myrdal wrote:
"And so what if I get all the girls? I see now you had the right of it, holding out for the right one..." he says with a nod to Jemini.

Cue Verik turning bright, super-crimson red, casting fly upon himself, and never being seen again...

Or being choked to death in his sleep by Nikolai.

*grins evilly* Caught that, did you?

I'm hoping everyone did, what fun! And how great of Berrin, while trying to say something nice, to innocently stumble into creating Verik's worst nightmare : D

DM Barcus wrote:

Are ye now?

I haven't been ignoring you. Just crafting it in my mind.

Aaaaaaand, now I'm Really nervous!


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
DM Barcas wrote:
Berrin Myrdal wrote:
"And so what if I get all the girls? I see now you had the right of it, holding out for the right one..." he says with a nod to Jemini.

Cue Verik turning bright, super-crimson red, casting fly upon himself, and never being seen again...

Or being choked to death in his sleep by Nikolai.

That's pretty much the plan...casting now...no wait I already cast it that morning - drat foiled again!


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 6th / Fighter 1st / AC 25/10T/25F / HP 54 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +13
Berrin Myrdal wrote:

Edited the sheet, calculated the claimed loot worth by selling value instead of buying value. Seems fair as that's the amount of gold we'd get for it.

Is nobody going to claim anything? The cloak would go well with Taisper I believe f.ex. I'm sure Nikolai would like more strength or AC same as Verik... Do you think Akiros would like some of it?

I'm all about AC for Verik, but would prefer to defer to you, Taisper, Jemini, Akiros and Nikolai first (and Zander but he's got the bow I know). Since I have the crafting feats I should probably make use of them a bit.

I'd love to see how the loot sheet works, so I've requested access to the Google Doc as vorduvai@gmail.com.


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

I haven't had a chance to really look at the magic items we got. I know Taisper already has a cloak from Verik so that slot is taken for him. A new cloak would have to be REALLY powerful to make him trade it for something his cousin made for him. I'll try to take a gander at things tomorrow...


vodruvai added, anybody else want access just send me your e-mails in a PM (we've got PM's on paizo now, yay!). I know I've got most of them somewhere but I'm too lazy right now to look for them.


About the loot split, I'm uncertain about some things so I'd appreciate your input so I don't have to make assumptions that end up pissing somebody off.

First off, should we hold a group average with everyone sharing in everything all the time. F.ex. should Akiros and Tandlara receive an equal share in the harpy loot or not? They weren't there and didn't participate in getting it (though Akiros arguably was doing his part).

Tandlara is another question as Eoin hasn't been active for some time now though we're holding out hope for Tandlara's return. Should an NPC (effectively) get an equal share?

I've calculated everyone into the sheet as is but I'd like to see a discussion please.

My thoughts regarding Akiros are that we should all be on an equal basis regarding loot so we maintain the same effective power level (cause gold is power in a magic infused fantasy world) regardless of whether we we're fighting one battle or another.

My thoughts regarding Tandlara are that I'm hoping for her return and I want her to jump in on an equal footing with the rest of us.

Thoughts?


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

Just requested access to the loot sheet, Berrin.

As for Akiros and Tandlara; I have no problem allowing Akiros to have his equal share of treasure. As a sort of assistant or chamberlain to the founders, holding down the fort while we're all out galavanting about, I think it's fair.

And I guess I still don't think of Tandlara as an NPC, so..yeah. She can be in on it as well.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

I've held off on the loot discussion so far as I've been waiting to see what Barcus has in mind for the two banged up founders (and Eoin's return)

My initial reaction is that loot is split amongst those that were a part of earning/finding/picking it off the corpses etc.

I don't want to presume either but from what I've seen I'm sure our DM is aware of it all and has taken care of you all loot wise do far. So whether cause of his or your generosity, whatever the outcome, I'm not worried about it.


Added. Thanks for the input.


Btw, I changed the sharing settings so that anyone with the link can view.

Link again.


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

Hmmmm, in looking at the loot sheet, I still don't think I can justify Taisper taking any of that stuff. His HP is too low to gain anything from a Vicious weapon, the ring would be better off in Jemini or Verik's hands, the Belt would be better off going to Nikolai to turn him into an absolute monster, and I've already mentioned the problem with the cloak. So I guess I'll pass this time around.

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