DM Barcas - Kingmaker: Rivers Run Red

Game Master Isaac Duplechain

As Newhaven rises, threats besiege it from all directions. To the north, the news of the last heir of House Rogarvia threatens the start of a new war. To the south, an empire of trolls and monsters grows.


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male human barbarian 5, ranger 3

I think you should wet your pants every time you rmeember meeting him. : b

Thank you all for your patience. I'll find my voice for the former Stag Lord...I thought having him rage into the forest was a good way to remind you all of his barbarian-ness.


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14

Oh yeah awesome entrance there, and the pic is freaky good! Of course I went straight to look at your character's stated appearance, but since you're not a halfling with two shortswords I figured you are still working on getting all of that written out :)


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14
Akiros Ismort wrote:
Sweet! Looking forward to some dynamic interaction between Akiros and his pal Tandlara ; )

Oh and speaking of creepy -- uhh Akiros good luck in the cultist cellar, because that can't be good!


Shouldn't his Power Attack by -2/+6?

I'm guessing Skill Focus History is leading up to Eldritch Heritage?


Consider my pants pissed ;)

btw; any word from Eoin?


I haven't heard anything. I hope that he will come back, even if it is just for one scene. Maybe once the summer hits, we can coerce him to return.


Hope so. That scrape with uncomfortable got me thinking of what I'd do if Berrin kicked the bucket and I came up with an idea that would'nt work unless Eoin was around. Tandlara's half-elf son.


male human barbarian 5, ranger 3

You are correct about the Power Attack and Eldritch Heritage. What, barbarians don't appreciate history? : b


Nikolai might, seeing as he is intent on learning more about his heritage and birthright.

As are the nobles of Brevoy...

As are the nobles...


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14

Sooooooo...how's it goin everyone? :)


Fairly well - I'm trying not to get washed away with the flood of work. My job is getting uncomfortably close to a major release, for us programmers that means late nights.


Male Human Heretic 5 Master of Many Styles 1

Yeah, I was on and off tour (or sometimes "tour" :-p) for the last couple weeks, and similar to LK, the project I'm currently contracted on has entered death march territory. So in addition to shows and an overbooked studio, I'm also doing some long hours at the day job. Just finally had time to get caught back up on all my threads today, hopefully can keep things going now that this spate of gigs is done.

It killed me to miss the "what to do with the kobolds" discussion, but I just couldn't devote the time to it that it deserved, so I let TS be silent, and then finally just now worked through it with what I just posted.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

What's the haps with Akiros' battle boss?


Mandatory overtime. Hitting me like a wave. No time to come up for air. Will try to post Wednesday while in a drugged haze after getting my wisdom teeth pulled 10 years later than recommended.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

Boy, some people will use Any kind of minor excuse to get out of stuff, eh?

But seriously bro, no worries! Was just checking in. Get well and rested and post when yer feeling better.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

All-

For whatever reason m computer consistently refuses to load Paizo or send posts. I am posting two and three times every time I want something up. Posting from my phone is slow. So I'l try to tough it out and diagnose the problem when I'm not working. Please be patient with me. I dig the character and everyone's roleplay.

-Steve


Just got back from my wisdom teeth extraction. I will get to posting like a maniac during my recovery.


Yikes. The post-anesthesia hit me and I was out for over twelve hours. I feel better, I've got yogurt and pudding, lets get this posting party started. I'm off work until Monday, so I'll be posting frequently between homework assignments.


That was eventful. I didn't expect the rolls to fall as they did, yet they did.

Tandlara is well on her way to a dark place, by the way. Keep a close eye on her. Who knows what deal she made with her patron for that power, and for the dice to favor her so?


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14

Wow that's a nasty and intense fight going -- pulling no punches for Akiros and Tandlara there! Oh and I have new respect for PFS Enervation now :)


Yikes, that's an intense fight, and with some serious repercussions. A founder dead and a soul sold..


@Steven; I was wondering which class you selected at level 1, 'cause if it was barbarian I think your missing a couple of hp. 12+7+6+6+8 = 39. Also I can't see what you did with your favored class bonus, could be a couple o'more hp there. (Or sp if you'r so inclined.)


Eoin gave it the go-ahead, and told me that he looks forward to things calming down in the summer so that he can explore whatever deal it was that she made.

I had planned for Corwin to sacrifice himself around here in the story (namely to make room for Berrin to step down). It just came a little faster than I unexpected thanks to Malgorzata's critical hit.

Silver Crusade

Male Human 8th Lvl Expert
DM Barcas wrote:

That was eventful. I didn't expect the rolls to fall as they did, yet they did.

Tandlara is well on her way to a dark place, by the way. Keep a close eye on her. Who knows what deal she made with her patron for that power, and for the dice to favor her so?

I've never heard of an Enervation crit before, and max levels too to boot. Can't script that any better really. Turned the fight around too, because otherwise that was looking like three dead Founders.

In a way though it was a fitting end to Corwin with how his story progressed as an NPC, as he was a character that never could get over his demons. A worthy bit of text there to cover that I thought.

Of course, none of us are going to know what happened in that dark cellar with Tandlara - not sure Akiros is going to understand it fully himself but it really sets things up between them. One thing's for sure - there's going to be some great potential for conversations when everyone returns to Sanctuary and finds out what happened.

(Well assuming all of us live through hags, witches, trolls and lizardmen that is hehe)


Akiros likely heard about her sudden surge of power during the fight against the Stag Lord, though he did not witness it (on account of being blinded by Tandlara) himself.

I went to the witch spell list to find a 3rd-5th level spell that reflected a dark, dark place and had the potential to even the scales with Corwin down. When enervation crit, and then 2d4 rolled 8, I knew it was meant to be.


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14
DM Barcas wrote:
"Crazy-man is man who crazy." Jabber answers Berrin's question with what the Steward could swear is sarcasm.

Hehe that is the best! We need Jabber to give us more insight like this throughout the trip.


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14

Hey look Berrin got to use his Dungeoneering Knowledge skill -- woot!


*nia nia ni nia nia* ;P


For those that missed it: in South Africa we're celebrating National Cleavage Day today :D (yes, it's a real thing). Every year I do a post on tenletter for the day that combines cleavage and DnD. Everybody welcome to enjoy the day!


lols. That's awesome.


Technically, Tandlara's darkness won't happen for another week or so from everyone else's viewpoint. It'll have to be a prophetic dream, though it wouldn't be Jemini's first.


In regards to Zander's question to Berrin he beat the DC by 8 which should give him 1 additional piece of useful information (1 for every 5 you beat the DC). I'm going to leave it up to Isaac what, if anything, Berrin recalls additionally.


AH yes! A prophetic vision. Personally I blame that oracle level that Jemini has ;)


They are incredibly fast and nearly impossible to hit. Preferred tactics often involve grabbing hold of one, as it is marginally easier than trying to straight-up hit, but then you run the risk of it shocking you to death with its electric attack.


So, somebody needs to suggest a course of action - across the river into the swamp, into the lake to the haunted island, or south along the coast?


Male Human Cleric (Abadar) 7th / Fighter 1st / AC 24/10T/24F / HP 61 / F +10 R +3 W +11 / Init. +0 / Perc. +5 / Sense Motive +14

Haven't done it yet because Verik is messing with him, but I'd have Verik agree with Berrin's idea of going into the swamp and taking on the lizardmen.

Also remember that crazy man is man who crazy...


I'm thinking of adding a few house rules regarding a few spells. Neither have really come up yet.

1) Haste is the single most over-powered spell in the game. I propose that it be changed to 1 target per 3 levels rather than target/level. As it is, it is exponentially powerful.
2) Cure X Wounds is great, but I would like to add a little more long-term danger. I see Wand of CLW turn people from death's door to 100% in a matter of minutes, and that really takes me out of the game. I propose that a given character who receives more than a quarter of his or her hit points in healing in a day is fatigued, and anyone who receives more than half is exhausted. This fatigue/exhaustion can't be magically removed.

What do you all think?


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

I think you're proposals make perfect sense Issac, well done.

Will post Akiros's next move today if I can manage it, want to give the death of a founder due respect and not rush it

Silver Crusade

Male Human 8th Lvl Expert
DM Barcas wrote:

I'm thinking of adding a few house rules regarding a few spells. Neither have really come up yet.

1) Haste is the single most over-powered spell in the game. I propose that it be changed to 1 target per 3 levels rather than target/level. As it is, it is exponentially powerful.
2) Cure X Wounds is great, but I would like to add a little more long-term danger. I see Wand of CLW turn people from death's door to 100% in a matter of minutes, and that really takes me out of the game. I propose that a given character who receives more than a quarter of his or her hit points in healing in a day is fatigued, and anyone who receives more than half is exhausted. This fatigue/exhaustion can't be magically removed.

What do you all think?

I agree with the spirit of what you are suggesting (it was like when I had to house-rule 2nd Edition Stoneskin). I think I would tone down the curing thresholds a bit, though I like the application of fatigue and exhaustion as concepts.

If you took Verik's current hp's to this ruling, it would mean that he'd take a fatigued condition at a 7hp dmg hit, which could be all too common.

If hit points are more about skill to lessen or avoid a fatal blow and less on how much physical damage is taken to the body, it might be better to apply 'fatigued' at under 25% of max hit points, and 'exhausted' whenever reduced to negative hit points (kind of like the 2nd edition old "Death's Door" rule). That might be easier to understand and calculate as well, but keeps the principle intact of "you can't be mostly dead and then all fine again" after a quick set of cure casts. That's my 2cp on the subject there.


Steve, your input? As a damage sponge and barbarian, I would like to know your opinion.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

Actually, I am usually loathe to tinker with spells like that. I'd say trust us to roleplay being crapped out after a hard day, or suitably careless during rages. Fatiguing players who are blessed by their healing God makes less sense - can your god heal or not? And I don't think haste is broken. You are more than capable of zoofing us at will, and if you need to fudge the occasional damage roll because we get a leg up early some combats, I'd say that's preferable to tinkering with mechanics.

Not that I'm a purist. Back in 3.5e, I'd drop an experience cost on half of the Spell Compendium if I felt I couldn't challenge players. Lookin' at you, fortunate fate. Screw you.

Now, all that said, you know I dig how you play and I'll be playing regardless of your decisions.

I didn't mean to get lost the last couple of days. I was exepcting a reply from jemini and we moved on to the next day. The Stag will move the football here in a few moments.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

I appreciate the look at my hp, but it looks right to me. 12 + 17 (1d12+2d10) + 8 = 37. Are we rounding that up instead of down? Or should I roll for those hp after level one?


Average (rounded up) of 1d12 and 2d10 is 7 and 12, which would make your HP 39, plus any favored class bonuses you might have. Alternately, you can roll, but you'll have to roll every level thereafter.


DM Barcas wrote:

I'm thinking of adding a few house rules regarding a few spells. Neither have really come up yet.

1) Haste is the single most over-powered spell in the game. I propose that it be changed to 1 target per 3 levels rather than target/level. As it is, it is exponentially powerful.
2) Cure X Wounds is great, but I would like to add a little more long-term danger. I see Wand of CLW turn people from death's door to 100% in a matter of minutes, and that really takes me out of the game. I propose that a given character who receives more than a quarter of his or her hit points in healing in a day is fatigued, and anyone who receives more than half is exhausted. This fatigue/exhaustion can't be magically removed.

What do you all think?

I'm 100% behind the change of haste - which I also think is overpowered. The way I was tinkering with balancing the spell in my home game was have the level 3 version of the spell last 1 round; and have a level 5 version that acts as the classic spell.

Another variant: split the benefits, haste attack grants an additional attack (no other benefits); haste bodies grants bonus speed, reflex, attack and AC bonus.

1 target per 3 caster level is a nice balance, I could entirely accept that.

I share the concerns with the 25% and 50% curing. The values, particularly at lower levels, is pretty easy to breach. On the other hand - Kingmaker lends itself to a 1-encounter-a-day, so it wouldn't matter much.

I'd definitely allow magic to overcome the conditions though, so a lesser restore should be able to lift the fatigue at least. A full restore should lift the exhaustion.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2013

Just realized I never finished Nikolai's skills. Hopefully you'll accept he'll max his ranks in Perception as a ranger. Also...do we have anyone besides me that can track this missing friend? I am not caught up enough on where we are to have tried, but I'm happy to roll or try when we get our bearings.


Male Human Fighter (Archer) 6

Change to Haste is fine by me. I guess we can see how the healing goes. I like it for the storytelling reasons, I always have similar reaction to massive doses of healing and springing to one's feet 6 seconds after being mostly dead.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10

Sorry again for the delay. A good friend with two young daughters has been having a particularly tough time involving her abusive ex and custody of their youngest daughter. She's needed a lot of help the past few days and so I haven't really been home. Hoping to get some home time tonight or tomorrow


It's all right. I definitely understand.


Male Human Samurai-Ronin 4/ Oracle-Battle 3 | AC 24/ T12/ F23, HP73, F+8/ R +4/ W +7, Init +1(Roll twice), Percep +6, Sense Motive +10
DM Barcas wrote:
As I see it, Akiros should have an AC of 17 against the hag rather than 19. 21 as normal, minus 2 for the charge, minus 2 for Cleave. Keep in mind that he only get +2 to hit and AC against the target of his challenge when his target is also targeting him with a challenge/smite/quarry/etc. I think you've been factoring a +2 to hit on his attacks against the hag, which he should not be getting. I'm not going to go back and retcon her to have higher hit points, but make sure to account for it properly next time.

Ah, ok, sorry about that, I see now how Samurai Challenge and Ronin's Challenge are two different things but I was combining them into one. I guess I missed the 'fine print' when reading over the ability. Seems rather weakened this way to me though. I mean, how often will Akiros be getting challenged, quarried or smote? Ah well it is what it is.

Silver Crusade

Male Human 8th Lvl Expert

Woot new page! Just in case you missed it and didn't add this to your inventory, don't forget the crafted items back on page 1 here

After considering it further, I believe I will have Verik learn the ways of crafting wands for his 5th Feat, as he can make wands that can be used by himself, Taisper and Jemini. I like the idea of scrolls for Verik but feats don't grow on trees :)

Since we have Khaladon and Steven with us now, there was an earlier discussion about which players actually enjoyed going through the Kingmaker monthly choices and selections (hex claiming and development, building development, edicts, army creation, etc.) as the months pass. Many are not interested, though Sigz and I both were and I'm attempting to keep up with the mechanics via spreadsheet at home. If you like the Kingmaker building aspects please say so and perhaps we can solidify how we want to do that going forward, though we have time as it looks like we're set through the next month of Desnus - we'll have to retcon a leadership change event though with Corwin's passing next month.

EDIT: Oh and Khaladon nice job on pressing the fight to that Hag - that's a tough break on watching 'Mrianne' get away from the cellar while finishing off the hag herself.

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