You could have won him ovwr, but it only lasts for 10 min.....
I think I made a clarifying post in gameplay thread. I realized it was there after I posted it. 5am posts can be a bit confusing sometimes :)
I will say this, Skreed is well and truly cowed. Your intimidate was like ginormous and he acquiesced to your demands, but he also chose to save fave before his horde and seem more like a mighty chief honoring his trusted warriors than a covetous milksop who just lost the biggest measuring contest of his life. In short, he's probably playing you. But, you could play him, too. Or you could push the issue and demand combat. The five champions (including Skreed) will fight you, and if you win, you have a horde. If you lose, We'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
Ah ok from the way he acted it seemed like my roll failed badly lol
Ya he said earlier we got a full rest and I had us meet them later so you should have had time to get your dead guy
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We should a be at full hp/spells unless dragon says otherwise ^^
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Ya he said earlier we got a full rest and I had us meet them later so you should have had time to get your dead guy
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Ah I missed that, crazy week this week!
Ya everyone's film and has their minions
Ok, I guess we vote.
Fight Skreed's five champions?
Wait until later?
What would we gain from winning? A horde. What will we do with this horde? Who will manage it while we go off adventuring? Where ARE we going next?
Just some things to think about.
I'm all for either, though I do recognise Shakraal is a glass cannon - low-low Ac and not that many HP, and a not great BAB. Unless she ms carrying the whomp-hammer...but that may be better in a higher BAB character's hands....
What would we gain from winning? A horde. What will we do with this horde?
We could invade Lastwall. :)
Ozak has shown himself to be squishier than I thought he would be. And there isn't really any way to improve AC until level 4.
Ozak still doesn't know enough about what is going on to really have an opinion. But he is expecting to have to fight these guys at some point, considering they demanded our treasure.
ok: quick recap of plot:
1) you heard from one of the Twisted Nail orcs back at the Flood Truce that that hated tribe was trying to get something that they could use to conquer the whole of Belkzen. You guys hate the Twisted Nail so you were against that on principle.
2) the Twisted Nail were going to get something from Trunau that would help them do this.
3) you guys got to Trunau, and bullied your way into getting people to think that you work for the Twisted Nail.
4) You used the chaos of the attack by the Twisted Nail to fight your way through Trunau to the Tomb of Hero-Chief Uskroth who had some gear that allowed him to unify the orcs and giants together into a tribe called the Twisted Hearts. He used the tribe to push Lastwall back to its current borders.
5) you killed his undead corpse and stole his gear
6) now, skreed wants it back and you guys are having a massive measuring contest to see whose is bigger.
Shakraal pretty summed up your choices.
1) Fight Skreed's champions for dominance
2) Make him think you're under his thumb and kill him later, when it's more convenient
Skreed IS cowed. He's not giving you the horde, but he's not pushing the issue with the treasure either. Right now, he seems to be choosing to act as though he's proud of your prowess and moxie.
Her points are valid, too.
1) You found part of a map in uskroth's tomb, and some kickass gear, but you don't know much about either. The map seems to lead somewhere, but without the other half you don't know where.
2) What are you going to do with a horde? Having it could be VERY useful for a lot of things. But, it will need some thinking.
3) if you lose.. you could die. at the very least, you could lose your gear and a lot of honor.
4) if you wait and strike later, you can secure allies in the horde, and garner power.
This also wouldn't be a fame-battle. This would be actually all-out combat.
Hakak has testosterone poisoning and he's totally into having the fight, but will defer to smarter PCs. :)
If we do fight, he's now got some buffs he can load out: Bull's Strength and Barkskin. They're probably more valuable than his summons at present.
ok thats two for combat ^_^
If Skreed has that second pat of the map killing him and taking it would be great!
It's a tough call to battle or not to battle as we don't really know how powerful Skreed is, he gained a horde so he could be 5th or he could be 10th!
If we do not fight we will need to "politic" as right now we are a bit directionless, especially without the map.
Politicking is not the Orc way, blood and death is the Orc way, as a follower of Zagresh Choot has no fear of death. If Thoku says fight, Choot will fight, in fact his last Chief NOT fighting is why Choot sought out a new Chief!
[url=http://archivesofnethys.com/FeatDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Necromantic%20Affinity] Hey folks, any interest any of you have in picking this up at 5th level as a Feat? I channel Necromantic energy so while we hurt our foes, I would heal all of us... :-)
If Skreed has that second pat of the map killing him and taking it would be great!
It's a tough call to battle or not to battle as we don't really know how powerful Skreed is, he gained a horde so he could be 5th or he could be 10th!
If we do not fight we will need to "politic" as right now we are a bit directionless, especially without the map.
Politicking is not the Orc way, blood and death is the Orc way, as a follower of Zagresh Choot has no fear of death. If Thoku says fight, Choot will fight, in fact his last Chief NOT fighting is why Choot sought out a new Chief!
alright, that sounds like 3 for fight.. sounds like majority say.. fight! I'll let you guys do the honors of throwing the gauntlet.
OK we are laying the pipe so who would benefit from enlarge most I'm only casting on one person as I'll need the spells for shield and to grow myself
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OK we are laying the pipe so who would benefit from enlarge most I'm only casting on one person as I'll need the spells for shield and to grow myself
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And while we're dispensing buffs, who wants some bull's strength and barkskin? Hakak can always use them on himself or Fleshripper, but given how I roll he might mess up and cast them on Skreed if he's not watched closely. :)
Lol your rolls have been getting better ^^^ I could use the str buff
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Esteemed GM, is pre-fight buffing kosher or should we keep them in our finely-crafted pantaloons (only the best human hide will do) until hostilities erupt?
Hmmmm.. Pre-buffing will be allowed. We'll RP It as part of what constitutes the throwing of the gauntlet
ok, so does someone want to post the buffings, and thus insight ORC THROW-DOWN 2016!
Ya I'll get a post up soon going to fluff it as if I'm calling power from orc blood oh and I have bloody gift now legs me give one of you guys an evolution of have when I eat part of an enemy ^_^ I forget how long it last but it's a few rounds
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It last for 1 minute so 10 rounds
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Ack. I better level up...
Ok, leveled up.
I have 3 first level spells/day - so I could enlarge 3 of us, including myself. Also, if no-one else will, Shakraal will take the earthbreaker of doom.
Ya the weapon to you armor to kern and the eye to me...wow we are about to go ham on these guys
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Ok so Thoku and Kern are enbiggenated. I have three spells - enlarge on myself and Ozak. Who else wants to be big, or should I enlarge Grell or Fleshripper? Or cast mage armor on one of them?
Ok so Thoku and Kern are enbiggenated. I have three spells - enlarge on myself and Ozak. Who else wants to be big, or should I enlarge Grell or Fleshripper? Or cast mage armor on one of them?
Fleshripper already has barkskin, so he probably doesn't need the AC.
Kern just said he wished to enlarge Grell.
Unfortunately only Kern can cast enlarge person on Grell, thanks to the way animal companion rules work. Hakak could cast it on Fleshripper, but not on Grell.
heh. sorry, trying to give you guys more power than you already have.
Oh, yeah, missed that. Thanks.
Ozak gets a big boost to damage being large; 1d8+6 damage becomes 2d6+7, 1d8+3 becomes 2d6+3, and 1d4+2 becomes 1d6+2. A net boost of +7 avg. damage per round. He also intimidates better (+5 against medium guys, +1 vs. large ones).
Wouldn't mind barkskin as my AC will drop by 2 when enlarged. Of course, Shakraal is in the same boat and might need it more.
Or just bull's strength which will be +4 damage per round and +2 to hit. Whatever works.
alright i'll make the post tomorrow. give you guys one last day to suss out the buffs with the holidays.
Sucks man living in Europe right now the only time they did before the July celebration is on July 1st this year can you believe that didn't even bother going to go see the fireworks just didn't feel right. But I'm probably going to go to London today start asking friends over there you "know where I can get some Boston Water for my tea "LOL
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heh.
Well, the delay is my fault, i think. I dawdled today doing other things and then I remember too late to the map. So i'll just do the post tomorrow and resolve wednesday.
One of these days, i'll get my sorry butt over to Europe and do some serious exploring. For now i'll have to content myself with SEasia
I'll be off the boards the next two days, if you have to bot me my first action is to cast Murderous Command on one of the Giants and my second action is to cast reduce person o the other one!
Hey folks, any interest any of you have in picking this up at 5th level as a Feat? I channel Necromantic energy so while we hurt our foes, I would heal all of us... :-)
If you are talking about THIS FEAT Ozak does not qualify as his CON is not high enough.
Specifically the feat says nothing about channeling (only cure and inflict spells), though it would be a reasonable house rule.
oh, i'd rule channeling would work
Well I was thinking about taking the undead aspect for my form just to go with the blood God / Destroyer God Motif we got going on as I'm the chief and choot is our spiritual guide
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Also again I freaking love the way you describe things it makes me more excited for the game. Getting any more into that orc like mind set
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Thanks! Like i said, it's easy to write for you guys! You guys motivate me to write!
Thanks! Like i said, it's easy to write for you guys! You guys motivate me to write!
Where there's a whip, there's a way.
Hey folks, any interest any of you have in picking this up at 5th level as a Feat? I channel Necromantic energy so while we hurt our foes, I would heal all of us... :-)If you are talking about THIS FEAT Ozak does not qualify as his CON is not high enough.
Specifically the feat says nothing about channeling (only cure and inflict spells), though it would be a reasonable house rule.
Kern doesn't quite qualify either, but I would consider taking it after my 4th level boost, which I could put into Con.
no worries!
Holy crap I just realized if I go with the undead traits for my forum and the fact that I drink blood to get power. I'll become the vampiric orc chief of the bloody storm, with a cleric that controls Undead as my second. So who really leads the tribe at that point LOL
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that'd be awesome
Going to florance for a week on the 15th won't be able to post much when I'm there
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i think i asked this earlier but i can't remember the answer, and i may have made up the whole damned conversation in my head.
but.... do we want to switch to Roll20 for the battle maps? it allows for things like rulers, and regular maps and so forth.
Ya you can do tat if you want to its np for me, as long as the game stays here its easier for me to post
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