AzureZero's GiantSlayer (Inactive)

Game Master Azure_Zero

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Gencon was awesome, still recovering hehe.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

I figured Valeria would do the Effortless Amazonian Lift.


I've start going over all the characters, since I did not have a good amount of time to go over them completely when I started as GM.

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Given Aaron having a "dark voice" in his head.

It is always best to talk with a GM (or new GM) about something out of the ordinary with your character, like a split personality.

As Player it sounds great and is great for RP. But there is no way you, as a character, have control or immunity to its suggestions.
So each time it speaks or gives an idea for an action roll a wisdom check.
Failure means you start to give in to the "Dark voice's" Dark Idea or Dark Suggestion.
Though as you go to follow through, you can try one more wisdom check. Passing it negates the dark suggestion, but leaves it mark on your mind and spirit and Failing again leaves a bigger one.
Get enough marks and you'll shift on the Good vs Evil Axis, as does doing various other dark actions.

So if you wish to keep good, you'd need to find a way of ridding yourself of the dark voice, before it marks Aaron's mind and spirit enough that he becomes an evil NPC.

That an I say Oracles follow the same rules as clerics, only one alignment step away from their patron.

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Freya, can you move your character data into the alias itself, as mythweavers either gives me no access or some form of grief in reading it.

If needed I can supply the same template I use for my characters.

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For the rest of the characters, I don't see a problem in getting to read the character data or about the character itself.


Now I do think 25PB is a bit too much power for characters when I do run a game, so I'm thinking of lowering it to 20PB.

with no stat below 8 post-racial,

But I'll see what you All say first.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Everything should be up on the Alias now. Tell me if I missed anything.

And I like my build the way it is, thank you very much. :P


Male Human Oracle of Bones 1 | Init +6 | AC 14/12/12 | Fort +2 Ref +2 Will +3 | perception +1

Are you house ruling that alignment rule? Because the entire thing that makes them different from Clerics is that the god (good or evil) Chooses them against their will. I could change alignment from CG to CN to be within one step.

GM:
And the whole point of this character was to make a necromancer that isn't evil himself, but does have dark power. As an Oracle of Urgotha, although my character doesn't know it's the influence of Urgotha speaking to him, a deity would in no way rob me of my free will(RAW) and the flavor of, bad things happening to someone doesn't make them a bad person, is the core idea of Aaron. IDK thoughts?


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

There are rules for madness. He would have schizophrenia. But I saw Aaron's affliction as more like a voice in his head that speaks to him but can't control his actions. Since it's an outside force it shouldn't work like madness and he shouldn't have to roll any DCs.


Evil, Evil GM grin,
wouldn't you like to know.....

Looked through an old hard drive I had, and it contained a good amount of my previous GMing stuff, some nasty GM books, even ADnD 1st Edition books.

So now I'm loaded with evil ideas, tools, and some of my old custom content...

Also if we stick to 25PB, I'll need to adjust the enemy NPC mobs to balance against the increased player power, since these APs are geared towards a party of 4 at 15BP.

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After reading some more and debating, Aaron you can be CG, but once to shift closer to her's in alignment you can't go back to CG without losing your powers, unless you get a new Patron with a chance of mystery changing.
And if Aaron becomes evil, he becomes an NPC.

Also note Urgotha is an NE goddess with Gluttony in her portfolio, so of course she'd have no problem corrupting a CG pawn to a more EVIL pawn.

who says she does her will on Aaron......
let the paranoia begin...

that and given what I've read, I can work with it and twist it to how I see it and it may be worse than you think.


Male Halfling Barbarian 1 (Titan Mauler)| Init +3 | AC 17/14/14(+2 vs Med or larger) | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +1 | perception +6

I thought the whole point of Oracles was that they dont worship a god but a few gods force power into them.

Quoting the SRD:
Mystery

Each oracle draws upon a divine mystery to grant her spells and powers. This mystery also grants additional class skills and other special abilities. This mystery can represent a devotion to one ideal, prayers to deities that support the concept, or a natural calling to champion a cause. For example, an oracle with the waves mystery might have been born at sea and found a natural calling to worship the gods of the oceans, rivers, and lakes, be they benign or malevolent. Regardless of its source, the mystery manifests in a number of ways as the oracle gains levels.

Its not necessarily just Urgathoa messing with him which is why their alignments aren't regulated.

I'd prefer to keep builds as they are.


Female Kitsune Bard 1. AC 17/12/15. Init +2. Saves 2/4/2. Spells 2/2.

I'll second that. I'd prefer to keep the builds as they are.


What is not mentioned is that the power of a mystery could also be a force of corruption.

Add to that the bones mystery is pretty much in sync with the Death Domain, which a large number of evil deities have.

And they have no problem with corruption folks with there power.

So it not as rigid as a cleric's, but does have a catch the farther you are.

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So that is 3 for keeping at 25PB


Male Halfling Barbarian 1 (Titan Mauler)| Init +3 | AC 17/14/14(+2 vs Med or larger) | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +1 | perception +6

I'm not arguing that his alignment shouldn't change if he does bad things. Just that his powers shouldn't go away if it does.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

If he's not in control of actions, it doesn't affect his alignment or powers. Aaron isn't a paladin.


There is both the Golden Rule and Rule ZERO.

Further more given that he choose as a player, a necromacer build with a dark voice as fluff, should expect something to be made as a possible restriction. As I, mentioned something about during recruitment.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Rule Zero has an important corollary: Rule .5. "Over or unfair use of Rule Zero will result in a lot of die-shaped welts." Or since it's online, lots of frowning emojis.


Male Human Oracle of Bones 1 | Init +6 | AC 14/12/12 | Fort +2 Ref +2 Will +3 | perception +1

I'm not a paladin guys!

Seriously though, I don't know what rule zero is but I accept DM rulings. I just want a chance to be a necromancer without being an evil bastard. Kind of like, I have these stupid powers might as well use them to help people.

But if I do truly evil things, alignment shift is of course at GM discretion, though if I could hide it, I may not want to have to go NPC right away. If Aaron does become evil though, I can just roll a new character and I've given us all a former companion who is now a powerful adversary. That's a roleplaying win if I've ever seen one.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Rule Zero is that the GM has final say over the game and can overrule the rule books. People can abuse this.

Being a necromancer without being evil is easy if you don't raise the dead. Creating undead is explicitly and inherent evil no matter the context. Even raising a skeleton to do the housework is a decidedly evil act. I don't really agree but it is what Paizo has said.

If the GM wants to overrule this with Rule Zero, that's fine, he'd just need to tell us that.


And it looks like Paizo has offical ruling on raising the dead part so I don't need to Rule Zero it.

That and I found the Dragon article covering redemption and temptation, to use as a base for alignment sliding.


A great chuck of the Bones mystery powers are going to be labeled evil if used, so I'm give that as a heads up.

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I've started upgrading the enemy to comply with the 25PB builds, since half have voiced they want to keep the 25PB (only one voted for down).
And since I don't hold back when a fight starts, you might want to consider a back-up character.
(since raise dead spells are not available here).
(And it Can't be the same race/class combo as before (this include class archetype))

I'm opening up SOME 3PP as an option should you die in this book due to me over specing the enemy, or you wanting a new character that you'd not have a chance to otherwise due to the 3PP options available.
Now any 3PP content you want to use requires three things;
1) that you and I own a copy (if free every has access)
2) I accept the 3PP content.
3) No Psionics or Path of War content will be allowed.

Currently Allowed 3PP:

Rite's In the Company Of series
->Currently have 9 races covered.
Purple Duck Games Monstrous Races series
Abandon Arts AmazingRaces Series
-> currently have a number covered

PF Bestiary Levels
(A race under 10 levels costs 10 PB, A Race above 10 levels costs 15 PB)
(gain 5 back if you in opposing race/class combo, i.e. Nymph Barbarian)

You can also Use Official Race templates,

Rules on Templates:

but each +X of the CR = 5+5(X) PB removed, the +X also adds to level.
i.e. Half-dragon barbarian (15 PB removed, 2 levels added for XP determination)

now if the template is opposite of the classes direction, the equation is just+X CR = 5X PB removed, and the CR bonus will not count as much for determining level.
i.e. Half-Succubus Barbarian (10 PB removed (would be 15), 1 levels added for XP determination (not 2))


Errata to Previous Post

as I started testing to check the numbers, and over shot the cost, a lot.

Enemy updates seem fine, though can't quite tell yet, as the dice can be fickle in game.

Currently Allowed 3PP:

PF Bestiary Levels
(A race under 10 levels costs 5 PB, A Race above 10 levels costs 10 PB)

(gain 5 back if you in opposing race/class combo, i.e. Nymph Barbarian, if race under 10 levels and must declare the class and it becomes locked)

will allow taking first class level to get class befits before first racial level.

Rules on Templates:

each +X of the CR = 5(X) PB removed, the +X also adds to level.
i.e. Half-dragon barbarian (10 PB removed, 2 levels added for XP determination)

now if the template is opposite of the classes direction, the equation is just +X CR = 5(X-1) PB removed, and the CR bonus will not count as much for determining level.
i.e. Half-Succubus Barbarian (5 PB removed (would be 10), 1 levels added for XP determination (not 2))


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Not this again. You guys gotta stop trying for the big Mortal Kombat style uppercuts...


Ayla is more of a fighter who kicks then punches.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

I should hope it isn't in marriage. You two just met!


Freya Solheim wrote:
I should hope it isn't in marriage. You two just met!

For I could of known, it could of been love at first fight...


Female Kitsune Bard 1. AC 17/12/15. Init +2. Saves 2/4/2. Spells 2/2.

This particular tournament has gone on for two months RT.

Is it possible to have other tournaments going on concurrently?


Yes things can go concurrently


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Seeing as the final fight is between the GM's character and an NPC, the GM should be able to zoom it along and end the tournament.


Sorry for delays RL has gotten a bit busier


I'll be out camping this Long weekend, with no internet.


Thanks for the heads up Azure, I hope everybody has a great weekend!!


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Fortuitous timing then. I just got surgery and am on yummy drugs for the pain so I'd probably not be my best. Hopefully I'll be better sometime next week.

I would to mirror Hashar's comment and wish everyone a great weekend as well.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

My surgery went well and I'm fully recovered.

Can we move along now? Is the GM too busy?


been a bit busy.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Sorry to be a nag. I've just been stuck at home for the past two weeks or so.

And since Freya explicitly said she isn't joining, that only leaves Aaron's decision up in the air.


cmd
ping Aaron.


Sorry for Delays RL, is kicking my Arse.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

I hear ya. Hope we can move forward soon.


I'll be posting as best as I can, as I can now post only evenings week days, and any time weekends.

Like my renders, you can make them too as there is aa
Daz Platinum Club sale going on and Pro Bundles are 40% off (65% if platinum)
This offer will likely last about 24 hours.
Recommend being in Platinum club to save more.

I even use these as A GM tool.


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DM Azure_Zero wrote:

I'll be posting as best as I can, as I can now post only evenings week days, and any time weekends.

Like my renders, you can make them too as there is a
Daz Platinum Club sale going on and Pro Bundles are 40% off (65% if platinum)
This offer will likely last about 24 hours.
Recommend being in Platinum club to save more.

I even use these as A GM tool.


Male Halfling Barbarian 1 (Titan Mauler)| Init +3 | AC 17/14/14(+2 vs Med or larger) | Fort +4 Ref +3 Will +1 | perception +6

Hey Guys, I apologize but I am going to withdraw Kit from this game.

I wish you all the best.


Given my energy level after work for over the past few weeks,
I don't think I can continue trying to GM this game.

So I'll be closing it down...

I thank you for the patience you had in my attempt to GM it.

Sovereign Court

Gotcha Azure, thanks for trying to keep it alive! Til next game my friend.


Female Halfling Arcanist 5 l HP 27/27 (0 temp) l Init +6 l AC 19/15/16 (w/Mage Armor) l Fort +5 Ref +7 Will +8 l Perc +4

Oh well. I'm down for any other game if someone wants to run something else. Good playing with all of you!

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