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Game Master Troy Malovich



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This is where you will have the space to ask questions about the campaign, game rules, or have non campaign related discussions. We will also use this to post updates to the characters when they level so there is a record of it.

Using the forums format, you may also build an Alias for your character (by going to 'My Account' and choosing to create an Alias under the messageboard aliases section and selecting Create New Alias). In the alias' profile you can put in all your character info (Copied and pasted into the text box for most of it), and it can be used as a reference during gameplay.

I would suggest you try to at least create an Alias with your character's name, and the closest approximation to your image, so you can use it when posting and it will feel more immersive to the whole point of the RP thread when we can put the name and face to the character interactions.

Once you post the first time in the gameplay thread, it will show up under the 'campaigns' tab of your main account page. From that point on, any time a new post comes in, the campaigns page will show a (# new) after the section that has new posts in it from the last time you checked.

Under my profile name, you will see three highlighted links. One takes you to the map for our game, the other the loot list, and the last one to the journal that Michelle is keeping.

Once you are ready to post, you can go to This link here and begin adding some RP dialogue with your characters.


F Rogue 2/ Monk 2

I think this pic fits the best.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

Didn't exactly find the hair to match, but everything else seems to fit. I now have a last name as well.


Of all of the dwarf pictures, it was hard to find a fitting one in between all of the Harsk pictures.

Do people not like dwarves?


Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

Boom here I am finally, strange how I'm more busy dealing with family issues when they are half way across the continent then when they are here!? Did you want us to put stats in our profiles as if this were a PbP?


F Rogue 2/ Monk 2

I will probably be posting my stats in the next few days.


Female Half-Elf Cavalier/5

I wish the hair were darker, but otherwise the avatar is ok.


Map: Starday, 07 Rova 4713 | Loot List| Journal
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So, I know it hasn't come up before, but this is the first time in a long time you guys have been sleeping outside of a protected building. As such, so that it doesn't spark concerns the night I ask for it, how are you guys handling watch (if at all)?


F Rogue 2/ Monk 2

For watch, I can do any time, if it's convenient I can do middle shift.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

I can take any shift. I will just need an hour (which I will find a way to fit in regardless of the watch schedule) to conduct my daily devotions to Iomedae. After our last battle, my devotions may be a bit longer than usual.


I'll take the first watch, if anything just to remove some confusion.


F Rogue 2/ Monk 2

I can take 2nd or 3rd.


Daysi Riverside wrote:
I can take 2nd or 3rd.

I'll take the last watch. If Zaigan takes the second to last watch, I can make sure he is undisturbed during his meditation.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

Based on the above, I will actually take second, if no one else objects. Will allow me to do my daily devotionals during Rogar's watch (and allow him to do the same if wanted during my watch).


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

I know it has come out a couple times OOC, but would the fact that Daysi is a follower of Desna have come out within the group? Trying to word my next response in the side-bar discussion, and that is a bit of a key part to it.


F Rogue 2/ Monk 2

Daysi has always had a religious symbol around her neck. She would have been open about her faith.


Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

So sorry for backtracking a bit with my post, but I feel like skipping straight to breakfast is assuming a lot as others will have things they want to address before that point.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

Not a problem. I jumped ahead a bit figuring that the rest of the watch shifts would go without a hitch. No reason that others can't comment on their parts of the events between the battle and the following morning. In the interest of continuity, I may go back and edit my post to just include the parts that happened during my watch shift, and repost the remainder of it after everyone has had a chance to post their say.


I don't plan on using the speak with dead spell here because personally it feels more like something to use at the table. Just a heads up.


Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

So, hoping people start chiming in again here.

In the mean time, I am aware of the need for Shalana's background to come to light and for her to confront her demons on the inside instead of out. The problem is that Ansiris doesn't give a crap. The more distant Shalana gets, the more distrust Ansiris has for her, he will not go and try to seek to draw the story from her, because to him it is immaterial she can break down and tell her sob story, but that would just go to proving her corruption. The only action that would actually move him would be a request for help and acknowledgement that she has a problem, a request for assistance.

The problem with this of course is that is the absolute last thing Shalana would ever do, hence the origin of this stalemate.

Ansiris is firmly committed to the service of good, and right now he is seeing Shalana as an impediment to the goal. I don't know what the solution is, however I am worried that the efforts to mend this will cause a rift for Ansiris.

Bottom line is Ansiris is not the catalyst for a quick and healthy solution, others need to step up to get this ball rolling.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

Comment based on personal real-world experience.

Over roughly the last month of world time, our characters have been fighting side by side, sleeping in close quarters around the clock. Even with our diverse backgrounds and various reasons for not trusting each other, some sort of bond would/should have formed by now. We still seem to be acting by our original character reactions.

Based on how characters are still responding to each other, we would've separated long before now. Shalana, at a minimum, would've (and I think actually mentioned it at least once during game a few months ago) left to find another adventuring group that more closely matched her zeal for striking the demons down (we can't be the only group of adventurers that were in the city when Kenabres fell).

The fact that we are still adventuring together and pushing toward increasingly more challenging foes would indicate that some level of trust has formed between us, even though a month ago we didn't even know that each other existed (except maybe as passing acquaintances in Kenabres for those that are originally from there).

Granted, we wouldn't have sat down around the campfire and sang "Kumbaya" while sharing the horrors of our past. We still would've, at least by now, reached a mutual understanding of our goals. It, even with whatever past our characters have in their backstories, would be almost impossible to be working and living so close together for this long and still be acting like we are.

Just my two cents.


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Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

If we are trying to breakdown the in character dynamics of this situation, right now I'd say the honeymoon period is over. Yes there was an immediate bond that formed due to a common set of adversities, and overcoming those adversities formed a comradery. There were divergences in our methods that were sanded over due to a common need to overcome more obstacles and ensure our survival. This is metaphorically like basic training, we don't all think the same, and don't share the same values, but we form a kinship based on common suffering and need. Then we emerged to the surface.

We had diverging opinions on how to handle things, but the goals were still clear. Our success was ensured by our continued need for one another and our clear goals. Facing those random encounters, and delivering the NPCs to their goals was a set of clear achievable tasks. This was a sort of AIT to our group, a learning experience, but one that still required a unit of effort, a fed goal, a learning experience.

The excursions from defenders heart and the assault on the garrison was our first deployment together. We argued, there were fights, there were clear conflicts, but we were on point, we had to work together.

Now we are on our own, no one to give us orders, no one to tell us where to go. We were quite literally the generals in charge. No damsel in distress, no exhaust port to hit, just a general goal, and the Army to do it. The first battle went okay, some losses, but overall a success, we marched on. Then another, but this led to ruin, a victory at such a high price. At this point emotions all around were coursing high, all those small differences, and argument, all the slights and insults, all the things that made us different, they come to the front. Comments were made, one that nearly ended in blows. Then, the argument, all those feelings and mistrusts, all the differences, the question, the doubts all erupting at once. This not only seems appropriate, but obviously very likely.

From an out of character view of things, I think we each are starting to really feel out our characters, so yes, we may be reacting from a "fresh" perspective, but we have been sitting at the table for many months now, our characters have been together a bit over a month, the only long period of non-combat was spend mostly apart, not bonding and learning about one another, but reflecting on ourselves and engaged in our own work.

Yes maybe we should assume our characters know more about each other than we are acting like, but we as players know very little about our characters. The point of this forum use was to remedy that, to explore the RP side of our characters in a controlled and less hasty environment. When you compose a response to something you have time to think on it and respond. My posts here a much more Ansiris and much less AL than when we are sitting at the table. Just thinking about the first few posts made me really sit and critically think about Ansiris which in turn has made me really flesh out his attitude, not just his backstory, but what made that backstory happen, and what was the effect it had on him as a person, not just as a character. I know now how paranoid he is, almost to the point of delusion, that in his zeal and quest for good, he has become mistrustful, never sure if the seed of corruption is present. I know why he is NEUTRAL good and not lawful good. It is that mistrust. He believes in absolute evil, we have fought it, evil as a physical entity. However he does not believe in absolute good, only that since absolute evil exists, and evil can corrupt absolutely, therefore any good is susceptible to succumbing to it. And in an total evil force cave moment, by taking up his vigil against corruption, he is risking becoming the very thing he hates.

Now that I know these things about him, yes, that may color some of his actions now in ways that weren't there before, but this is who he is. Now we must reconcile that knowledge with our current situation. Again I truly feel that Ansiris is not the catalyst for this to end well, so others will need to step in to help this take shape.

We all have background traits in this campaign, some are harsh, some are less, some are traumatic some are subtle, but we have to make them mesh somehow. [/latenightrambling]


Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

So interestingly enough, the question I asked at the game about getting access to to spells to create magic items, I think I found the answer in the simplest of places. The magic item creation rules.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/#TOC-Magic-Item-Creation wrote:
Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item’s creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed). The DC to create a magic item increases by 5 for each prerequisite the caster does not meet. The only exception to this is the requisite item creation feat, which is mandatory. In addition, you cannot create potions, spell-trigger, or spell-completion magic items without meeting its prerequisites.

The above quote (emphasis mine) seems to indicate that if you lack a spell requirement, you can simply bypass that requirement by adding a +5 to the DC of the craft check. The Flaming property is a +1 equivalent ability, it requires: Craft Magic Arms and Armor and Flame Blade, Flame Strike, or Fireball. So a total of two requirements, if Ansiris wanted to enchant this property to a weapon, he could do so, as long as he increased the DC of the spellcraft check by +5?

Just trying to get a DM take on this.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

So, if that is the case (my two cents)..

I would interpret that you would still need a source for whatever spell you were going to use to enchant the item. It could take the form of a scroll/spell book or have another person cast for you. Since you aren't personally casting the spell (not counting the use of the scroll, since anyone can use a scroll), that would justify the DC 5 increase.

You are crafting the item, but since you aren't specifically casting the spell, the intricacies of where on the item
the spell needs to be applied to properly work are more complicated.


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Ansiris is correct. Straight out of the book, as is, any requirement you don't have/meet increases the DC by 5.

It's pretty simple, and not that harsh, which is one of the issues I had with item crafting. Especially when the taking 10 option existed.


Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

Evil - Evil implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. Some evil creatures simply have no compassion for others and kill without qualms if doing so is convenient.


Male Half-Elf Bard-4/Rogue-1 (Archmage 1st Tier)

Good - Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others.


M Aasimar Paladin 5/Mythic Marshall 1
Combat Stats:
HP 53/53 | AC:24/11/23 | CMB +8, CMD 20 | F10, R7, W10 | Init +2 | Perc +10, SM +8

Understood. These definitions have already been brought up (emails from back in February). What are you getting at?


Male Demi Human Slacker-5, Lethargist-5, Avatar of Apathy-10

Here his the URL to the Discord server. Let me know if you have an problems.


Map: Starday, 07 Rova 4713 | Loot List| Journal
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If Shalana's replacement is not 100% on paper (that I can build and import over HeroLabs), and at least 75% complete in FG (in regards to all powers/abilities built out in the system) before we get back to my game, Shalana will need to cancel her plans to leave, and stick it out until a replacement is finished enough to step in.

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