Cogsnap-VampByDay |
3-2B Reward, common daddy needs a new faction: 1d20 ⇒ 2
SO CLOSE!
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
So I think we all got our card upgrade and feats, so Inthink we are good to go? I could be missing something though. I’ll go to that one trader I have if someone wants to go there for bonus draws, but I don’t want to sac cards from my deck for. . Really I guess the only thing I want is some better armor with the alchemist’s lab coat? And even then. . . Eh? Not much I need right now.
Estra and Honaire |
For the record, I'm still open to re-doing 3-1A one of these days if only so Cogsnap gets access to the Sunburst Market, which I believe is generally the best Trader. He could always just use it to switch a weapon for another Acid Flask or Blessing. If Skizza or Qualzar aren't up for it, we can 2-player it.
And certainly always go to a Trader, even if you won't use it. You might find something that will surprise you.
Anyway, yep, just waiting on the GM to post the next scenario (and confirm that my Player Reward works fine, I guess?).
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
Honestly I’m not a big fan of traders. I’m sure they are worth it, but they seem like a hasstle to me, especially since Cogsnap doesn’t need a whole lot right now. The next combat item is level 4, and he basically just needs cards to throw around. So shrinking his deck is the opposite of what he wants to do. That one weapon 1 is all I really wanted. I have NO clue what my next requested upgrade will be. Probably just an ally or armor, but those are marginal upgrades at best.
Estra and Honaire |
Honestly I’m not a big fan of traders. I’m sure they are worth it, but they seem like a hasstle to me, especially since Cogsnap doesn’t need a whole lot right now. The next combat item is level 4, and he basically just needs cards to throw around. So shrinking his deck is the opposite of what he wants to do. That one weapon 1 is all I really wanted. I have NO clue what my next requested upgrade will be. Probably just an ally or armor, but those are marginal upgrades at best.
Oh, I agree about normal traders, more or less. If I'm playing a card-hungry character, the loss of 2 boons for 1 is pretty bad. But Sunburst Market is excellent, and I find it hard to think of a single character that can't use Sunburst Market effectively for a 1-for-1 trade. There's almost no character in the game where I wouldn't take the option of trading 1 card type slot for a different card type slot, whether it's an extra spell, an extra blessing or an extra item, at the usual cost of a redundant weapon or barely-helpful armor.
Even if I did have a character who didn't want an extra blessing or an extra ally or something, I could always just use the Sunburst Market to trade an armor for a Cure spell. Even a single-use Cure is a perfectly fine card for almost all characters up to and including Tier 3, at least.
Once I get a better weapon, I'm considering using Sunburst Market to trade something for a weapon, then switching that weapon with the Spear loot, allowing me to use my normal weapon slot as well. The less reliant Estra is on spells to fight, the more I can focus my turns into more explorations (and the more excellent non-combat spells from my class decks I can utilise).
Estra and Honaire |
So, is there actually a forum for recording errors in PFSACG PDFs? This is the second time in a week I've seen a copy-paste error; in the story for 4-3A there's a copied paragraph from the previous adventure which comes out of nowhere, and I kind of feel like the non-sequitors really interrupt my engagement of the story. It's the first time in my life I've seen (semi-)random paragraphs spliced into a storylet I'm reading, and I spend a couple of minutes reading and re-reading in confusion before working out that I've seen that text before, then going back to find out where.
A couple of requests for the GM.
Could we have the Loot List spreadsheet placed somewhere in the headers for the campaign?
In addition, could we have a summary of earned traders placed in the headers?
Alternatively, I'll just add a sheet to the aforementioned spreadsheet which details the Traders we have, if that's easier and/or preferred by players.
(For the record, for Qualzar and Skizza, we currently have 5 traders, including Sunburst Market. The remaining for are all 2-boons-for-1 traders offering Weapons/Spells/Items/Allies are our options).
As for scenario discussion, an interesting scenario for sure! Everything's undead, which really hurts Qualzar (and somewhat hurts Estra, since I pointed out that two of my boons are now useless, but that just gives me two AD1 cards to trade!), but leads to some interesting new opportunities. I like the idea of 'chance to close off every monster, increasing as the deck shrinks'. Less random than henchmen closes, or at least it feels that way.
Estra and Honaire |
Let me make spreadsheet for the traders, since there are different ones for different characters. Loot list added to header.
Thanks! Don't worry about the Traders; I just added them to a new sheet of the Loot List since I had the time and the text. I separated them based on who had access to them, like the Loot.
Estra and Honaire |
So we're currently waiting for Skizza to pick a starting location, then we have to wait for the Trades and Aspis Ally to be posted, then we can start.
So that I make it clear; I've gotten the go-ahead from Tyler and officially apply the Society Initiate reward to Estra. I plan to convert it into a card feat as soon as I can, in the meantime, I'll list it in my Deck Handler.
Estra and Honaire |
Sigh, true. Oh well. I still encourage Cogsnap to go to one of the locations, perhaps Falsin Deek? No harm in browsing, even if he doesn't make any trade.
Skizza of Dongun Hold |
My apologies. Family surprised me with a visit for my birthday so I am nowhere near a computer atm. Posting from a phone has always been a bit crazy.
EmpTyger |
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Happy Birthday, Agent Eclipse! The game can wait, enjoy the weekend!
Yewstance:
Something Estra has learned from Qualzar and Skizza; destructive tendencies among her colleagues are far more likely to pose a threat to their enemies than to Estra herself, and in doing so their companionship proves to provide a great deal of security.
Aw, that certainly would warm Qualzar's heart. And "Security through Destructive Tendencies" makes for a great slogan. Although "Security through Destructive Tendencies More Likely to Pose a Threat to Enemies" probably has a better ring to it in Gnomish.
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
Happy Birthday, Agent Eclipse! The game can wait, enjoy the weekend!
Yewstance:
Estra wrote:Something Estra has learned from Qualzar and Skizza; destructive tendencies among her colleagues are far more likely to pose a threat to their enemies than to Estra herself, and in doing so their companionship proves to provide a great deal of security.Aw, that certainly would warm Qualzar's heart. And "Security through Destructive Tendencies" makes for a great slogan. Although "Security through Destructive Tendencies More Likely to Pose a Threat to Enemies" probably has a better ring to it in Gnomish.
Gnomish is a language of nuance. Nuance and explosions. Actually mostly explosions.
BR Hawkmoon |
I finally got around to finishing Chronicle sheets for adventure 1. You can download them here. And I've got a system setup now to get them done faster.
Let me know if everything looks ok.
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
I finally got around to finishing Chronicle sheets for adventure 1. You can download them here. And I've got a system setup now to get them done faster.
Let me know if everything looks ok.
You appear to have replaced mine with Agent Eclipse’s
BR Hawkmoon |
BR Hawkmoon wrote:You appear to have replaced mine with Agent Eclipse’sI finally got around to finishing Chronicle sheets for adventure 1. You can download them here. And I've got a system setup now to get them done faster.
Let me know if everything looks ok.
Ah. So let me explain. The finished sheets for the adventure had your name and the adventure number. So "EmpTyger 3-1" is the adventure 1 sheet for EmpTyger (Qualzar). The ones that say "Fillable" in front are the work in progress ones. I finished up the adventure 1 sheets, and I was in the progress of creating the adventure 2 fillable sheets when you looked at it. I copied Agent Eclipse's sheet to create one for you. If you look at the fillable now, you'll see it has your info at the top (though I need your PFS number). Only the info for the A and B scenario is accurate. I'm updating the scenarios from the previous copy as we complete them.
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
Cogsnap-VampByDay wrote:Ah. So let me explain. The finished sheets for the adventure had your name and the adventure number. So "EmpTyger 3-1" is the adventure 1 sheet for EmpTyger (Qualzar). The ones that say "Fillable" in front are the work in progress ones. I finished up the adventure 1 sheets, and I was in the progress of creating the adventure 2 fillable sheets when you looked at it. I copied Agent Eclipse's sheet to create one for you. If you look at the fillable now, you'll see it has your info at the top (though I need your PFS number). Only the info for the A and B scenario is accurate. I'm updating the scenarios from the previous copy as we complete them.BR Hawkmoon wrote:You appear to have replaced mine with Agent Eclipse’sI finally got around to finishing Chronicle sheets for adventure 1. You can download them here. And I've got a system setup now to get them done faster.
Let me know if everything looks ok.
Okay. Just as long as you are aware. # is 132475-1001
BR Hawkmoon |
For 3-1B, Qualzar's upgrades should be Item 1 and Spell B.
Also, I didn't gain a die bump.
Why wouldn't you have gained a die bump? You get one for complete the adventure.
Skizza of Dongun Hold |
Thank you for all the birthday wishes it was great...minus the slight sunburn. Catching up now and will post soon.
Skizza of Dongun Hold |
I posted the first part of my turn but hit a cure and was wondering if Estra wanted to use a blessing to help acquire it and then I hand it off to you for faster cycling?
Skizza of Dongun Hold |
Alright awesome. Acquired for our divine caster or whoever needs it. I can deliver it next turn.
BR Hawkmoon |
BR Hawkmoon wrote:Ah, didn't realize. Cool!EmpTyger wrote:Why wouldn't you have gained a die bump? You get one for complete the adventure.For 3-1B, Qualzar's upgrades should be Item 1 and Spell B.
Also, I didn't gain a die bump.
3-1B upgrades should be corrected now.
EmpTyger |
Ironically, Qualzar also picked up a Cure, so now we're swimming in those. Qualzar has 4 cards in his discard currently, all of which I wouldn't mind retrieving. (2 non-mental spells, a blessing, an ally.) I'm inclined to banish it for immediate use, especially given that Skizza would still have an extra Cure on hand. But I wanted to check with the party, whether anyone would rather we load up Estra with all the cures?
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
Ironically, Qualzar also picked up a Cure, so now we're swimming in those. Qualzar has 4 cards in his discard currently, all of which I wouldn't mind retrieving. (2 non-mental spells, a blessing, an ally.) I'm inclined to banish it for immediate use, especially given that Skizza would still have an extra Cure on hand. But I wanted to check with the party, whether anyone would rather we load up Estra with all the cures?
It's also a divine card that can be used to close the peasant tombs. Just an observation.
Estra and Honaire |
Sorry, sickness slowing me down. Also, I'm notifying the team that I may not be able to post during this upcoming weekend, as I will be travelling (oddly enough, also for birthday reasons).
I admit I'd kind of like one additional Cure, either in my deck or cast on me to recover my one currently in discard, but I don't feel its necessary for players holding onto them just to pass them to me. If you want to use it; just banish it for your own use; they're a strictly-better Potion of Healing! (Unless you're an Alchemist)
Besides, if I have too many they'll end up clogging up my draws. Not that that's the worst fate to have.
Also, yes, Skizza, Qualzar and I all have a Die Bump now, though we never really formally acknowledged that. They are technically primarily used to manipulate die rolls, but I'd rather none of us spend them - 3 of them together collectively can be used as a post-scenario Raise Dead, which I'd feel much better about having.
P.S. Thanks for the Chronicle Sheet updates, Hawkmoon!
P.P.S. Don't forget about Blessing of Maat, team. Not saying that anyone has forgotten; I just think it's worth re-iterating. It's power is considered equivalent to a deck 5/6 spell (Symbol of Fortune), interestingly enough.
Hawkmoon269 |
Here is the info on Die Bumps:
Die Bumps
A die bump is a single-use reward usually given to characters that complete an adventure (See Earning Scenario Rewards on page 10).Your character can use a die bump to add 1 to or subtract 1 from the result of a check. Multiple die bumps can be used on a check, and multiple characters can use die bumps on a check.
If a character dies, at the end of that scenario, the party may collectively use 3 die bumps to resurrect that character back from the dead. Players may not be coerced into using die bumps for this purpose. The resurrected character is no longer dead and gains rewards as if he had not died.
When you use a die bump, mark it off on your character’s Chronicle sheet.
Estra and Honaire |
Hawkmoon:
Interestingly, the 'raise dead' wording of Die Bumps is different to that of the Society Initiate.
Society Initiate: You may only assign this reward to the first PFSACG character that you create. At the end of a scenario, if your character is dead, you may cross this reward off; your character is no longer dead. If you have a role card, you may instead cross this reward off to gain a card feat.
Unlike Die Bumps, it doesn't say anything about "[...] gains rewards as if he had not died.", so are we to assume that if we use the Initiate reward to cheat death we don't get the scenario - and by extension, the Adventure and Adventure Path - reward unless we replay the scenario? It seems more like an oversight to me, but they're clearly worded differently.
Two more questions, one slightly related and one based on something in-game currently.
1. I never really considered this, but is Cogsnap completely unable to gain the Adventure Path reward for the Season of Plundered Tombs? He hasn't completed the first adventure, and he has a finite amount of time to do so until he tiers up too high and will be unable to even choose to do so ever again. That also means he cannot play the 'capstone' scenario and achieve it's reward either, since it specifies that players must have earned the Adventure Path reward.
That seems unfair, and is there any alternate way he can 'get credit' for Adventure 1? Especially if we get to the end, and then Skizza, Qualzar and Estra have to do the Capstone scenario (Tide of the Unholy First) on our own, RAW.
2. Just confirming something in terms of the game. Estra can wait to see if a location is closed before playing Speak with Dead, correct? The scenario rule and Speak with Dead both have an opening to be used "when a monster is defeated", so since they're simultaneous players get to choose which to resolve/consider, correct?
Cogsnap-VampByDay |
Shoot, forgot that the hydra was given the undead trait from the scenario power and that I should have rolled a d8 to see if I could close the location. Oops. Wanna just say I rolled a 1-5 so that play proceeded like I wrote.
Hawkmoon269 |
I'm going to assume you still gain the reward either way. The guide also says this:
If your character is dead at the end of a scenario and is not resurrected (see Die Bumps on page 9), your character does not gain rewards even if the party won the scenario.
That indicates to me that the only way you don't gain rewards is if you stay dead. Anything that makes you not-dead means you get the rewards and the die bump text is superfluous.
1. Yeah. I'm not aware of any way around that besides going back and playing them. I'll ask around though.
2. Yes, you can choose whether to apply the scenario power or play Speak with Dead first.
Estra and Honaire |
(For the record, I maintain my offer of happily going back and playing Season 3-1 with Cogsnap/VampByDay... but because of the rules forbidding me from using AD2 cards in an AD1 scenario, I'd probably just make a new character for the first 5 scenarios then return to Estra when he's fully caught up. It'd make for a good basis to set up a character for the Tier 2 Assault on Absalom special anyway.)
Hawkmoon269 |
(For the record, I maintain my offer of happily going back and playing Season 3-1 with Cogsnap/VampByDay... but because of the rules forbidding me from using AD2 cards in an AD1 scenario, I'd probably just make a new character for the first 5 scenarios then return to Estra when he's fully caught up. It'd make for a good basis to set up a character for the Tier 2 Assault on Absalom special anyway.)
So, I asked around and there is really no way around this. The guide even calls out skipping scenarios as causing you to miss out on the adventure path reward. I think missing the reward itself isn't a big deal, as much as missing the capstone scenario is. I'm going to do what I can to petition to change that. But for now it is what it is.
If you guys want to play the first adventure again, that is fine with me.
Also, you can use tier 2 cards in adventure 1. You can't have any cards higher than your personal tier is the rule for OP.
Estra and Honaire |
Also, you can use tier 2 cards in adventure 1. You can't have any cards higher than your personal tier is the rule for OP.
Huh, I had always misread that rule, then. So Cogsnap can't take AD2 rewards currently either? Never realized that.
I'm real happy to have VampByDay playing with us as a fourth party member, but I never realized how hostile OP was to starting part-way into an adventure. Especially since I'm a fan of the Capstone reward (which I've seen used by Mork in another table).