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Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

I don't know about anyone else, but the stuff on the table do not scream magic-user! to me. It seems more like the kind of stuff people might carry on their person, personal charms etc. I'm guessing prisoners were stripped and searched and this is the accumulated rubbish.


retired

I don't know what it suggests one way or another =P


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

Yeah this is weird place, lol

I am waiting for more teems of dusty oni to assault us...


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

Lets just move on


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

Lets just move on.


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

Sorry for my absence ... I'll try to catch up now... been crazy busy here.


Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

GM is here, I only see one post sense monday. Anyone else posting? If not, I'll assume you go down the corridor per the latest post.


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

As a note to all my games: MY family is on vacation starting the weekend before the 4th of July through the following weekend of July 9/10. I will have intermittent internet access but our schedule is a bit up in the air. I will try to post when I can but if I am quiet for some or all of this period please know I will be back. I don't intend on radio silence but stranger things have happened.)


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

Guys, I am on Holiday from next Monday, until the following monday. They have Wifi, but I am on my kindle so it's not as easy to post.


retired

Nothing from anyone else in the gameplay thread for two weeks? What are we looking at here, folks?


Male
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Human GM

Sorry, I've been slain at work, just getting back to normal. Thought I'd have time this weekend, then my wife (who I hadn't seen for 3 weeks) wanted family time Saturday, and my friends wanted Game Day Sunday. Posting now.


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

just taking a little break while we waited for kittyface to return... ?


retired

Is Ling still with us? It's been nearly a full month since her last post.


Female Human HP (20/20)
Stats:
AC/Touch/Flat 13/12/11 | CMD 14 | Fort/Ref/Will +3/+3/+2 | Init +2
Skills:
Acrobatics +2 | Appraise +4 | Bluff +4 | Diplomacy +11 | Intimidate +4 | Know. (Arcana) +4 | Perception +5 | Use Magic Device +8
Sorcerer (Dragon Bloodline) 3

...Yeah, I am. I'm sorry. I've barely been posting in any of my games the last couple weeks. I pretty much hit rock bottom and I just started a new job that involves getting up at 5 am and it's pretty much wrecked me (I suck at mornings). On top of that I've been creatively drained and depressed and blah blah blah whine whine complain complain.

So I'm still around, yeah. I'll try to shape up.

holycrap, I didn't realize it had been almost a month!


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

I am off to visit friends tomorrow until Wednesday. I should have wifi access, but I will be on my kindle again so less posting until I'm back.


Male
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Human GM

Ok, so, question for the group.

The creature, as you may have noticed, has the 'shatter weapons/armor' extraordinary ability. There's debate on whether this affects natural weapons and unarmed strikes or not. I see 3 options :

1) It doesn't at all.
2) It does, and the attack automatically gains the broken condition (not having hardness), but that's all that happens (basically, claws cracked, teeth cracked, bones get hairline fractures) and the owner can't hit as hard anymore with it, but that's all that happens to the owner.
3) As per 2 above and the attacker takes the damage as HP, as he is, in effect, the weapon.

Thoughts? I'm leaning toward 2 as a compromise. If it were a Su ability, I'd say it was a limitation of the magic it can only affect manufactured weapons and objects. However, it's an Ex, which would seem to not have those kind of limitations on it.


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

2 seems like a fine compromise to me.

Wow that is a lot of posts...which on review is super weird!

I have been on site but somehow this wasn't updating? Maybe my phone. I was posting elsewhere so I am really sorry.


retired

According to the Big T-rex himself, the Shatter Weapons extraordinary ability doesn't function vs natural attacks.
Link

Most of the sentiment I've found on the boards seems to concur. Natural Weapons lack hardness and aren't objects, so they can't gain the broken condition.

Another suggested the damage the caryatid column does shouldn't apply to the attacker's hp pool, or a third level character is rather likely to punch themselves to death on the first swing. =\


Male
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Human GM

James Jacobs, however, has also very strenuously stated not to use his opinions as arguments on the boards for what is correct or incorrect. SKR is the official Paizo rules decider (and has very often been at stark odds with JJ). JJ is the creative director of the world and setting.

The whole monk flurring himself to death is why I am leaning toward 2, as it is a happy medium. It still leaves the thing difficult to attack, but doesn't turn it into something that creates Black Knights (as in the Monty Python variety). :)

Also, the argument that 'it lacks hardness' is not a very good one, as there are tons of things not on the list of hardness. :) Bone for example, so under that logic, you could wield a jawbone of an ass and destroy it with that without it ever taking damage. :)


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

I have ass jawbone proficiency! Columns BEWARE!


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

I kinda like option 1 myself... not that I have any natural attacks myself.


retired

While it's true there isn't an exhaustive list of hardnesses for all the myriad things one might pick up and brandish as a club or shank, there are rules in place for a GM to assign hardness to improvised weapons. That doesn't seem to carry over to natural weapons as far as I've seen in the rules or found on the boards.

That said, it's your game mdt, so you rule how you feel is best! =)


Male
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Human GM

If you make yourself invisible, please set your icon's transparency so it looks ghostly so we can remember who we can and cannot see.


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

OH! I will try to remember that I've never done that before, fancy


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

OK, the Gem is obviously there to lure the unwary/greedy in. That suggests the whole thing might be an elaborate trap.

So, way I see it, we have 3 choices.

1) We can continue to try battering at a virtually impregnable opponent that will most likely kill some of us before we kill it, or at least destroy our equipment.

2)We can try running through the room to whatever is beyond it. If it is 2 more impenetrable doors, we are back to 1).

3) We can retreat, lick our wounds and go elsewhere.


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

I'm with the running...

-Posted with Wayfinder


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

Actually I can try to check the door before we run to see which way we run? How do we feel about that?

-Posted with Wayfinder


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

Sounds good. Just be careful it's not trapped - this whole room smells like a trap. and don't forget to tell us the Gem is illusionary.


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

OK, if we are gonna stay and fight this thing, I will need to use my potion of magic weapon so that my arrows can penetrate it; if we are not I will save it for when its needed. Do we have a consensus of what we are going to do?


retired

Right now, I'm just buying time for Ling and Xu


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

So, does that mean we are agreed that we are retreating?


Male
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Human GM

I'm just waiting on Ling/Xu to post to confirm they are still doing their actions after Naravash was wounded.


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

Sorry folks I am having some serious access issues, technical and social, I apologize for the spottiness.


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

I want to apologize for my spotty access lately, I am having some issues at home and at work that are impacting my ability to get onling physically and taking a toll on getting into the groove emotionally. I expect this to be a patch of turbulence that might last another month or so but shouldn't take me out of the fight. I will continue to try to get on as often as I can but if you are willing to be patient, I will slwosly get back up to speed. I apologize for my delays.


Female Human HP (20/20)
Stats:
AC/Touch/Flat 13/12/11 | CMD 14 | Fort/Ref/Will +3/+3/+2 | Init +2
Skills:
Acrobatics +2 | Appraise +4 | Bluff +4 | Diplomacy +11 | Intimidate +4 | Know. (Arcana) +4 | Perception +5 | Use Magic Device +8
Sorcerer (Dragon Bloodline) 3

I'll be at DragonCon from today through Monday, so I apologize in advance if my access to the boards is limited. I'll try to keep an eye on things here anyway, but I wanted to warn everybody ahead of time!


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

Just so you know, I will be at Strategicon all weekend (Friday-Monday evening). Probably won't be home til late Monday. I will try to keep up with posts via phone and computer at the hotel, but I will be mega-busy at the con, so no guarantees. Please bot my character as necessary to keep the game flowing... Thanks, and sorry in advance for my absence.

Sorry for my absence of late... going through a rough patch... I'll try to keep up when I return.


Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

Did I lose all my players?


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

sorry - I was away for a bit, and this thread wasn't updating for me... I'd sort of thought maybe the game had died out.. .did I miss much? should I go read gameplay?


Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

They opened a sarcophagi, talked to the oni that woke up, it didn't appear to understand them, and that's where we left off. Been waiting for someone to do something else.


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

mmm... I'd better go do some reading then... maybe noone is sure how to progress? anyway - give me a chance to read up...


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

Avernus was trying a different language and we were waiting to see what happened when he did I think?


Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

I had posted it, forums ate it. No wonder nobody was posting, apologies.


Female Human HP (20/20)
Stats:
AC/Touch/Flat 13/12/11 | CMD 14 | Fort/Ref/Will +3/+3/+2 | Init +2
Skills:
Acrobatics +2 | Appraise +4 | Bluff +4 | Diplomacy +11 | Intimidate +4 | Know. (Arcana) +4 | Perception +5 | Use Magic Device +8
Sorcerer (Dragon Bloodline) 3

No worries, happens to me with alarming frequency.


Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

Sorry all, my last week :

Tuesday : 9.5 hours of work
Wednesday : 9.5 hours of work
Thursday : 6 hours of work, 5 hours of errands and packing
Friday : 10 hours of travel
Saturday : 8 hours of Niagra Falls with wife, pushing my her chair around Niagra falls for our anniversary (first wheelchair on the Hurricane Deck of Cave of the Winds)
Sunday : Spent day in bed in pain from Saturday.
Monday : 8.5 hours of work
Tuesday : 8 hours of work

Projection for rest of week

Wednesday : 9.5 hours
Thursday : 9.5 hours
Friday : 9.5 hours
Saturday : 6 hours
Sunday : 8 hours of pushing wife around Niagra Falls again
Monday : 9.5 hours
Tuesday : 9.5 hours
Wednesday : 9.5 hours
Thursday : 9.5 hours
Friday : 13 hours of flight


retired

Dude. You are one *busy* dude!
Sheesh!

Take some time off from the boards if you need to, my friend. Golly!


Kitsune Skald (Spellwarrior) 3
stats:
HP-24 AC/Touch/Flat 13/10/13 | CMD 15 | F +5 R +4 W +3 | Init +4 | Perc +4
Skills!:
Acrobatics* (9) | Bluff* (3/9) | Diplomacy* (3/9) | Kno: (All/Local) (3/4) | Perform (String/Sing/Wind) (9/7/7) | Sense Motive (4) | Spellcraft (6) | Stealth (4) | UMD (7)

As an fyi I got into a pretty big car wreck on Monday night, I am pretty banged up and typing and what not is really hard so I will do my best to keep up but my spottiness will probably continue through next week.


Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

Condolences, and glad you're alright. Take your time.


stats:
hp 14/20 | ac 13 13 12 | F 3, R 3, W 10 | bab 1, melee -1, ranged 2 | cmb -1 cmd 10 | init +1
mikobito shaman 2/investigator 1
skills:
acro 5, appraise 4, bluff 6, craft alch 8, diplo 6, disable 6, escape 5, handle anml 6, heal 5, intim 6, k nature 11, k dung 11, k arc 12 k planes 11, k eng 12, perc 10, sm 8, splcrft 8, stealth 1/5, surv 9

wow... what a schedule... and Xu, glad you are alright... take care and recover quickly!


Male Professional Dosser 14/Rules Lawyer6

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Male
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Just to let you all know, I was travelling heavily 10/27 to 10/29, I'll be catching up on 10/30
Human GM

Will be back to normal posting this weekend.

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